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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    Biden didn’t beat Trump. It was +50% of the electorate voting “not Trump”.

    I see no reason to think that will be different in 2024.

    Agreed. But Biden will still be “not Trump” in 2024.

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    @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    Biden didn’t beat Trump. It was +50% of the electorate voting “not Trump”.

    I see no reason to think that will be different in 2024.

    Agreed. But Biden will still be “not Trump” in 2024.

    @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    Biden didn’t beat Trump. It was +50% of the electorate voting “not Trump”.

    I see no reason to think that will be different in 2024.

    Agreed. But Biden will still be “not Trump” in 2024.

    Oh, I agree. That was the second part of my statement. But I do believe Lame Donald (so sad) is vulnerable to having a significant enough part of his base turned. They are still seething over policies that he at least stood aside for if not actually promoted…

    The Brad

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      It will be interesting to see how he handles the vaccine deniers.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        Just looked at some GOP numbers from Kentucky that showed the indictment by Bragg made Republican voters 40% more likely to vote for him.

        Get ready...😱😱

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        Mr. Trump did not make this photoshop.

        Mr. Biden commissioned it for the Oval Office.

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          I agree with @LuFins-Dad and @jon-nyc .

          The best candidate the Democrat could have in 2024 election is President Trump.

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          • X xenon

            Why do you seem to want Trump, @Jolly

            Is it his electability or governing chops?

            Pendulums are a thing. I don’t think we’ll get moderate on the other side of that one.

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            @xenon

            I could be persuaded to support DeSantis, but if Trump can navigate the legal rapids, I don't see DeSantis making a run at him...Unless Trump does something really stupid.

            A moderate Republican? A RINO? Won't make it through the primaries, especially in the South.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

              Biden didn’t beat Trump. It was +50% of the electorate voting “not Trump”.

              I see no reason to think that will be different in 2024.

              Agreed. But Biden will still be “not Trump” in 2024.

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              @jon-nyc I watched Biden on the news today. The man can barely walk. By 2024, he may not be able to. The American public has elected a guy in a wheelchair before, but not a senile guy in a wheelchair...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @jon-nyc I watched Biden on the news today. The man can barely walk. By 2024, he may not be able to. The American public has elected a guy in a wheelchair before, but not a senile guy in a wheelchair...

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                @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                @jon-nyc I watched Biden on the news today. The man can barely walk. By 2024, he may not be able to. The American public has elected a guy in a wheelchair before, but not a senile guy in a wheelchair...

                Not Trump

                The Brad

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @xenon

                  I could be persuaded to support DeSantis, but if Trump can navigate the legal rapids, I don't see DeSantis making a run at him...Unless Trump does something really stupid.

                  A moderate Republican? A RINO? Won't make it through the primaries, especially in the South.

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                  @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                  ...Unless Trump does something really stupid.

                  If he unzipped and helicoptered that would somehow be rationalized as draining the swamp.

                  Politics is now literally reality TV, and he’s the funnest character. Adults should not want him.

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                    @jon-nyc I watched Biden on the news today. The man can barely walk. By 2024, he may not be able to. The American public has elected a guy in a wheelchair before, but not a senile guy in a wheelchair...

                    Not Trump

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                    @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                    @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                    @jon-nyc I watched Biden on the news today. The man can barely walk. By 2024, he may not be able to. The American public has elected a guy in a wheelchair before, but not a senile guy in a wheelchair...

                    Not Trump

                    Good, then vote for Biden.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                      @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                      @jon-nyc I watched Biden on the news today. The man can barely walk. By 2024, he may not be able to. The American public has elected a guy in a wheelchair before, but not a senile guy in a wheelchair...

                      Not Trump

                      Good, then vote for Biden.

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                      @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                      @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                      @jon-nyc I watched Biden on the news today. The man can barely walk. By 2024, he may not be able to. The American public has elected a guy in a wheelchair before, but not a senile guy in a wheelchair...

                      Not Trump

                      Good, then vote for Biden.

                      That’s what you’re doing by voting for Lame Donald in the primary. A vote for Lame Donald is essentially a vote for Biden.

                      The Brad

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                        #235

                        Poor Lame Donald…

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          Poor Lame Donald…

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                          jon-nyc
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                          @LuFins-Dad

                          Thing is about Trumps true fans, is they’d never quite believe it. Or if they did, they’d prefer the noble defeat.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            @LuFins-Dad

                            Thing is about Trumps true fans, is they’d never quite believe it. Or if they did, they’d prefer the noble defeat.

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                            @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                            @LuFins-Dad

                            Thing is about Trumps true fans, is they’d never quite believe it. Or if they did, they’d prefer the noble defeat.

                            If, by noble defeat, you mean go on extended rants about election fraud and some vast leftist conspiracy, then you're spot on.

                            I was only joking

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                              @LuFins-Dad

                              Thing is about Trumps true fans, is they’d never quite believe it. Or if they did, they’d prefer the noble defeat.

                              If, by noble defeat, you mean go on extended rants about election fraud and some vast leftist conspiracy, then you're spot on.

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                              @Doctor-Phibes

                              Yes of course, but they’d be noble rants indeed.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                @Doctor-Phibes

                                Yes of course, but they’d be noble rants indeed.

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                                @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                Yes of course, but they’d be noble rants indeed

                                If by 'noble', you mean 'like King George III during his "eccentric" phase', then yes, you're once again spot-on.

                                I was only joking

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                                  He's my favorite.

                                  Link to video

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    As best I can tell, currently Trump is beating the shit out of DeSantis...

                                    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/2024_republican_presidential_nomination-7548.html#polls

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      As best I can tell, currently Trump is beating the shit out of DeSantis...

                                      https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/2024_republican_presidential_nomination-7548.html#polls

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                                      @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                      As best I can tell, currently Trump is beating the shit out of DeSantis...

                                      https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/2024_republican_presidential_nomination-7548.html#polls

                                      That may be. And a vote in the primary for Trump is a vote for Biden in the general election…

                                      By the way, Lame Donald is currently pro Budweiser, pro Disney, and is starting to lose his pro-life support.

                                      Ben Shapiro has commented that Trump will run from the Center-Left side of the Republican platform. How will that play with the base?

                                      https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jr-sparks-maga-fury-bud-light-comments-1794625

                                      https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/trump/2023/04/19/trump-criticizes-desantis-on-disney-with-economic-disaster-in-florida/70129695007/

                                      https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-abortion-2024-president-81373a7c8523db24f928d713ff90aa31

                                      The Brad

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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                        @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                        As best I can tell, currently Trump is beating the shit out of DeSantis...

                                        https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/2024_republican_presidential_nomination-7548.html#polls

                                        That may be. And a vote in the primary for Trump is a vote for Biden in the general election…

                                        By the way, Lame Donald is currently pro Budweiser, pro Disney, and is starting to lose his pro-life support.

                                        Ben Shapiro has commented that Trump will run from the Center-Left side of the Republican platform. How will that play with the base?

                                        https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jr-sparks-maga-fury-bud-light-comments-1794625

                                        https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/trump/2023/04/19/trump-criticizes-desantis-on-disney-with-economic-disaster-in-florida/70129695007/

                                        https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-abortion-2024-president-81373a7c8523db24f928d713ff90aa31

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                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                        Ben Shapiro has commented that Trump will run from the Center-Left side of the Republican platform. How will that play with the base?

                                        I agree with Trump on Disney. In the unlikely event of them ever leaving Florida, the state economy would be fucked.

                                        Also, DeSantis really shouldn't be fighting corporations just because he doesn't agree with their politics. It's fucking dumb. He's putting political considerations ahead of the state economy. Very small-government.

                                        I was only joking

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                                          Too much invested. It will never happen. If Disney doesn't want the state playing politics, they should stay out of politics themselves. Especially since they had cut such sweet deals originally.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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