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  • M Mik
    10 Nov 2022, 17:48

    Now I don't put much stock in Salon, but this is interesting.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/coordinated-effort-across-fox-news-wsj-and-ny-post-rupert-murdoch-dumps-biggest-loser-trump/ar-AA13XM9x?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a150afedcf4f40088d4ee10614207ed5

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    Catseye3
    wrote on 10 Nov 2022, 20:01 last edited by
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    @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    Now I don't put much stock in Salon, but this is interesting.

    Also, from Politico: "Although Murdoch’s breakup dazed some members of the commentariat, it shouldn’t have. Murdoch has no friends. He has no loyalties. He has no principles. And never has. His support of politicians has always been transactional and extractive. Now entering the final days of his political career, Trump is expendable, making the Post’s and Journal’s twin discoveries in the same moment of Trump’s crimes against the Constitution a convenient cover story for the orange man. Murdoch has always been a political cad, swooning and then dumping his political partners when a better-looking one comes along. Murdoch’s next fling looks to be Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, whom Fox News has slathered with positive attention in recent months."

    More: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/07/25/rupert-murdoch-donald-trump-splitsville-00047748

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      10 Nov 2022, 20:01

      @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

      Now I don't put much stock in Salon, but this is interesting.

      Also, from Politico: "Although Murdoch’s breakup dazed some members of the commentariat, it shouldn’t have. Murdoch has no friends. He has no loyalties. He has no principles. And never has. His support of politicians has always been transactional and extractive. Now entering the final days of his political career, Trump is expendable, making the Post’s and Journal’s twin discoveries in the same moment of Trump’s crimes against the Constitution a convenient cover story for the orange man. Murdoch has always been a political cad, swooning and then dumping his political partners when a better-looking one comes along. Murdoch’s next fling looks to be Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, whom Fox News has slathered with positive attention in recent months."

      More: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/07/25/rupert-murdoch-donald-trump-splitsville-00047748

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 10 Nov 2022, 20:58 last edited by Doctor Phibes 11 Oct 2022, 20:59
      #103

      @Catseye3 said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

      His support of politicians has always been transactional and extractive.

      I'm certainly no fan of Murdoch, but this is just as it should be.

      They're supposed to work for us, not the other way round. Obviously, Rupert Murdoch isn't one of 'us', but he certainly doesn't owe Donald Trump anything.

      I was only joking

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        Mik
        wrote on 10 Nov 2022, 21:00 last edited by Mik 11 Oct 2022, 21:01
        #104

        Actually, I find his ruthlessness refreshing. I've never minded dealing with people like that as long as I saw them coming. It's pretty easy to extract what value they offer by appearing to offer yours to them. It's a lot like hiring hookers - an unsavory but honest transaction.

        This is where the street smarts I learned from my early reading of ghetto life and countless hours spent at a real pool hall came in handy.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • D Doctor Phibes
          10 Nov 2022, 20:58

          @Catseye3 said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

          His support of politicians has always been transactional and extractive.

          I'm certainly no fan of Murdoch, but this is just as it should be.

          They're supposed to work for us, not the other way round. Obviously, Rupert Murdoch isn't one of 'us', but he certainly doesn't owe Donald Trump anything.

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          George K
          wrote on 10 Nov 2022, 21:29 last edited by
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          @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

          Rupert Murdoch ... doesn't owe Donald Trump anything.

          Quite the other way around, as a matter of fact.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            George K
            wrote on 10 Nov 2022, 23:42 last edited by
            #106

            FFS.

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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              xenon
              wrote on 10 Nov 2022, 23:48 last edited by
              #107

              How do you take a person like this seriously?

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              • X xenon
                10 Nov 2022, 23:48

                How do you take a person like this seriously?

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                George K
                wrote on 10 Nov 2022, 23:52 last edited by
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                @xenon said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                How do you take a person like this seriously?

                You don't.

                He was always an obnoxious SOB, but he never seemed to be quite as unhinged as he is now. I always thought his comments during the primaries regarding his opponents ("Little Marco") the equivalent of the Italian "Busting balls."

                Now, it just seems mean spirited.

                I think he's smart enough to realize that he's become an albatross and just can't cope.

                Or not.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 10 Nov 2022, 23:54 last edited by
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                  I suppose he will be throwing tantrum haymakers until the referee calls it.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 10 Nov 2022, 23:54 last edited by
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                    I hate to make a judgment before all the facts are in, but it looks possible that he is still a jerk.

                    This is a common condition for people from his neck of the woods.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 00:06 last edited by
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                      He was never not this guy.

                      I bet he still has Jolly’s vote. And Improv’s. And probably Copper.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 00:07 last edited by
                        #112

                        Depending on the circumstances, maybe.

                        It's all about the judges, baby.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 00:10 last edited by
                          #113

                          Just Lame ol’ Donald being Lame…

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                          The Brad

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                          • J Jolly
                            11 Nov 2022, 00:07

                            Depending on the circumstances, maybe.

                            It's all about the judges, baby.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 00:14 last edited by
                            #114

                            @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                            Depending on the circumstances, maybe.

                            It's all about the judges, baby.

                            This seems like a yes.

                            The spirit of the question wasn’t “are you with him until the end regardless”, rather it was “despite the fact that you have clear alternative(s), is he still your favorite”?

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                            • G George K
                              10 Nov 2022, 23:42

                              FFS.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 00:31 last edited by
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                              @George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                              FFS.

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                              “Tell me you’re losing to DeSantis without saying you’re losing to DeSantis”

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                              • J jon-nyc
                                11 Nov 2022, 00:31

                                @George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                FFS.

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                                “Tell me you’re losing to DeSantis without saying you’re losing to DeSantis”

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                                George K
                                wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 00:34 last edited by
                                #116

                                @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                “Tell me you’re losing to DeSantis without saying you’re losing to DeSantis”

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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  11 Nov 2022, 00:31

                                  @George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                  FFS.

                                  FhPQiK0XwAUc_bi.jpeg FhPQiKwXEAU1G56.png

                                  “Tell me you’re losing to DeSantis without saying you’re losing to DeSantis”

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 00:54 last edited by
                                  #117

                                  @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                  “Tell me you’re losing to DeSantis without saying you’re losing to DeSantis”

                                  Screenshot 2022-11-10 at 6.53.12 PM.png

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 01:02 last edited by
                                    #118

                                    JFC

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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 01:21 last edited by
                                      #119

                                      Lamer than Fetterman after eating a Big Mac and two orders of fries…

                                      The Brad

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                                        taiwan_girl
                                        wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 01:48 last edited by
                                        #120

                                        It will be interesting if the entertainers on Fox channel start to go against President Trump.

                                        (EDIT: I have never seen Fox channel, but based on what I read on here, the main hosts Carlson(?) are very much for President Trump)

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                                        • G George K
                                          11 Nov 2022, 01:02

                                          JFC

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 11 Nov 2022, 01:54 last edited by jon-nyc 11 Nov 2022, 01:57
                                          #121

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                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

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