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  • MikM Mik

    Now I don't put much stock in Salon, but this is interesting.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/coordinated-effort-across-fox-news-wsj-and-ny-post-rupert-murdoch-dumps-biggest-loser-trump/ar-AA13XM9x?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a150afedcf4f40088d4ee10614207ed5

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    @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    Now I don't put much stock in Salon, but this is interesting.

    Also, from Politico: "Although Murdoch’s breakup dazed some members of the commentariat, it shouldn’t have. Murdoch has no friends. He has no loyalties. He has no principles. And never has. His support of politicians has always been transactional and extractive. Now entering the final days of his political career, Trump is expendable, making the Post’s and Journal’s twin discoveries in the same moment of Trump’s crimes against the Constitution a convenient cover story for the orange man. Murdoch has always been a political cad, swooning and then dumping his political partners when a better-looking one comes along. Murdoch’s next fling looks to be Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, whom Fox News has slathered with positive attention in recent months."

    More: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/07/25/rupert-murdoch-donald-trump-splitsville-00047748

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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    • Catseye3C Catseye3

      @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

      Now I don't put much stock in Salon, but this is interesting.

      Also, from Politico: "Although Murdoch’s breakup dazed some members of the commentariat, it shouldn’t have. Murdoch has no friends. He has no loyalties. He has no principles. And never has. His support of politicians has always been transactional and extractive. Now entering the final days of his political career, Trump is expendable, making the Post’s and Journal’s twin discoveries in the same moment of Trump’s crimes against the Constitution a convenient cover story for the orange man. Murdoch has always been a political cad, swooning and then dumping his political partners when a better-looking one comes along. Murdoch’s next fling looks to be Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, whom Fox News has slathered with positive attention in recent months."

      More: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/07/25/rupert-murdoch-donald-trump-splitsville-00047748

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      #103

      @Catseye3 said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

      His support of politicians has always been transactional and extractive.

      I'm certainly no fan of Murdoch, but this is just as it should be.

      They're supposed to work for us, not the other way round. Obviously, Rupert Murdoch isn't one of 'us', but he certainly doesn't owe Donald Trump anything.

      I was only joking

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        #104

        Actually, I find his ruthlessness refreshing. I've never minded dealing with people like that as long as I saw them coming. It's pretty easy to extract what value they offer by appearing to offer yours to them. It's a lot like hiring hookers - an unsavory but honest transaction.

        This is where the street smarts I learned from my early reading of ghetto life and countless hours spent at a real pool hall came in handy.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          @Catseye3 said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

          His support of politicians has always been transactional and extractive.

          I'm certainly no fan of Murdoch, but this is just as it should be.

          They're supposed to work for us, not the other way round. Obviously, Rupert Murdoch isn't one of 'us', but he certainly doesn't owe Donald Trump anything.

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          #105

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

          Rupert Murdoch ... doesn't owe Donald Trump anything.

          Quite the other way around, as a matter of fact.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            George K
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            #106

            FFS.

            FhPQiK0XwAUc_bi.jpeg FhPQiKwXEAU1G56.png

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              #107

              How do you take a person like this seriously?

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              • X xenon

                How do you take a person like this seriously?

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                @xenon said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                How do you take a person like this seriously?

                You don't.

                He was always an obnoxious SOB, but he never seemed to be quite as unhinged as he is now. I always thought his comments during the primaries regarding his opponents ("Little Marco") the equivalent of the Italian "Busting balls."

                Now, it just seems mean spirited.

                I think he's smart enough to realize that he's become an albatross and just can't cope.

                Or not.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Horace
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                  #109

                  I suppose he will be throwing tantrum haymakers until the referee calls it.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    I hate to make a judgment before all the facts are in, but it looks possible that he is still a jerk.

                    This is a common condition for people from his neck of the woods.

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                      #111

                      He was never not this guy.

                      I bet he still has Jolly’s vote. And Improv’s. And probably Copper.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        #112

                        Depending on the circumstances, maybe.

                        It's all about the judges, baby.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          LuFins Dad
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                          Just Lame ol’ Donald being Lame…

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                          The Brad

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            Depending on the circumstances, maybe.

                            It's all about the judges, baby.

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                            @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                            Depending on the circumstances, maybe.

                            It's all about the judges, baby.

                            This seems like a yes.

                            The spirit of the question wasn’t “are you with him until the end regardless”, rather it was “despite the fact that you have clear alternative(s), is he still your favorite”?

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • George KG George K

                              FFS.

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                              #115

                              @George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                              FFS.

                              FhPQiK0XwAUc_bi.jpeg FhPQiKwXEAU1G56.png

                              “Tell me you’re losing to DeSantis without saying you’re losing to DeSantis”

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                @George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                FFS.

                                FhPQiK0XwAUc_bi.jpeg FhPQiKwXEAU1G56.png

                                “Tell me you’re losing to DeSantis without saying you’re losing to DeSantis”

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                                @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                “Tell me you’re losing to DeSantis without saying you’re losing to DeSantis”

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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @George-K said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                  FFS.

                                  FhPQiK0XwAUc_bi.jpeg FhPQiKwXEAU1G56.png

                                  “Tell me you’re losing to DeSantis without saying you’re losing to DeSantis”

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                                  #117

                                  @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                  “Tell me you’re losing to DeSantis without saying you’re losing to DeSantis”

                                  Screenshot 2022-11-10 at 6.53.12 PM.png

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    George K
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                                    #118

                                    JFC

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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      LuFins Dad
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                                      #119

                                      Lamer than Fetterman after eating a Big Mac and two orders of fries…

                                      The Brad

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                                        It will be interesting if the entertainers on Fox channel start to go against President Trump.

                                        (EDIT: I have never seen Fox channel, but based on what I read on here, the main hosts Carlson(?) are very much for President Trump)

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                                          JFC

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                                          #121

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                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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