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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • MikM Away
      MikM Away
      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #94

      God. Just go away.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        Sean Spicer started laying the ground cover for Trump… The candidates that failed did so on their own. He pointed to an extreme difference in how much fundraising they did and how much of their own war chest they spent vs. relying on SuperPacs… According to him, successful campaigns like Johnson in WI and Budd in NC did a lot of fundraising and didn’t ask for or get much support from SuperPacs. Campaigns like Oz in PA and Masters in AZ did not put anywhere near the amount of work that was expected and even relied on SuperPacs to coordinate their ground game…

        Don’t know if it’s true or not, but it sounds plausible. It also sounds like an attempt to give his old boss a path forward…

        The Brad

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        • MikM Away
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          Mik
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          Super PACS need to go away. All the worst ads come from them.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            Sean Spicer started laying the ground cover for Trump… The candidates that failed did so on their own. He pointed to an extreme difference in how much fundraising they did and how much of their own war chest they spent vs. relying on SuperPacs… According to him, successful campaigns like Johnson in WI and Budd in NC did a lot of fundraising and didn’t ask for or get much support from SuperPacs. Campaigns like Oz in PA and Masters in AZ did not put anywhere near the amount of work that was expected and even relied on SuperPacs to coordinate their ground game…

            Don’t know if it’s true or not, but it sounds plausible. It also sounds like an attempt to give his old boss a path forward…

            AxtremusA Offline
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            Axtremus
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            #97

            @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

            Sean Spicer started laying the ground cover for Trump… The candidates that failed did so on their own. He pointed to an extreme difference in how much fundraising they did and how much of their own war chest they spent vs. relying on SuperPacs… According to him, successful campaigns like Johnson in WI and Budd in NC did a lot of fundraising and didn’t ask for or get much support from SuperPacs. Campaigns like Oz in PA and Masters in AZ did not put anywhere near the amount of work that was expected and even relied on SuperPacs to coordinate their ground game…

            Don’t know if it’s true or not, but it sounds plausible. It also sounds like an attempt to give his old boss a path forward…

            Sean Spicer is hinting that Trump pathetically picked a bunch of weak, lazy losers who cannot pull their own weights.

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            • MikM Away
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              Now I don't put much stock in Salon, but this is interesting.

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/coordinated-effort-across-fox-news-wsj-and-ny-post-rupert-murdoch-dumps-biggest-loser-trump/ar-AA13XM9x?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a150afedcf4f40088d4ee10614207ed5

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • MikM Mik

                Now I don't put much stock in Salon, but this is interesting.

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/coordinated-effort-across-fox-news-wsj-and-ny-post-rupert-murdoch-dumps-biggest-loser-trump/ar-AA13XM9x?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a150afedcf4f40088d4ee10614207ed5

                Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                Doctor Phibes
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                #99

                @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                Now I don't put much stock in Salon, but this is interesting.

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/coordinated-effort-across-fox-news-wsj-and-ny-post-rupert-murdoch-dumps-biggest-loser-trump/ar-AA13XM9x?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a150afedcf4f40088d4ee10614207ed5

                How long before Trump starts complaining about right-wing media bias? 🙂

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                  Now I don't put much stock in Salon, but this is interesting.

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/coordinated-effort-across-fox-news-wsj-and-ny-post-rupert-murdoch-dumps-biggest-loser-trump/ar-AA13XM9x?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a150afedcf4f40088d4ee10614207ed5

                  How long before Trump starts complaining about right-wing media bias? 🙂

                  HoraceH Offline
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                  Horace
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                  #100

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                  @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                  Now I don't put much stock in Salon, but this is interesting.

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/coordinated-effort-across-fox-news-wsj-and-ny-post-rupert-murdoch-dumps-biggest-loser-trump/ar-AA13XM9x?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a150afedcf4f40088d4ee10614207ed5

                  How long before Trump starts complaining about right-wing media bias? 🙂

                  Pretty sure he was complaining about Fox a lot leading up to 2020.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    jon-nyc
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                    Assuming it ensures, I wonder if Newsmax or OANN will become the destination for Trumpistan.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • MikM Mik

                      Now I don't put much stock in Salon, but this is interesting.

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/coordinated-effort-across-fox-news-wsj-and-ny-post-rupert-murdoch-dumps-biggest-loser-trump/ar-AA13XM9x?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a150afedcf4f40088d4ee10614207ed5

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                      @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                      Now I don't put much stock in Salon, but this is interesting.

                      Also, from Politico: "Although Murdoch’s breakup dazed some members of the commentariat, it shouldn’t have. Murdoch has no friends. He has no loyalties. He has no principles. And never has. His support of politicians has always been transactional and extractive. Now entering the final days of his political career, Trump is expendable, making the Post’s and Journal’s twin discoveries in the same moment of Trump’s crimes against the Constitution a convenient cover story for the orange man. Murdoch has always been a political cad, swooning and then dumping his political partners when a better-looking one comes along. Murdoch’s next fling looks to be Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, whom Fox News has slathered with positive attention in recent months."

                      More: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/07/25/rupert-murdoch-donald-trump-splitsville-00047748

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      • Catseye3C Catseye3

                        @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                        Now I don't put much stock in Salon, but this is interesting.

                        Also, from Politico: "Although Murdoch’s breakup dazed some members of the commentariat, it shouldn’t have. Murdoch has no friends. He has no loyalties. He has no principles. And never has. His support of politicians has always been transactional and extractive. Now entering the final days of his political career, Trump is expendable, making the Post’s and Journal’s twin discoveries in the same moment of Trump’s crimes against the Constitution a convenient cover story for the orange man. Murdoch has always been a political cad, swooning and then dumping his political partners when a better-looking one comes along. Murdoch’s next fling looks to be Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, whom Fox News has slathered with positive attention in recent months."

                        More: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/07/25/rupert-murdoch-donald-trump-splitsville-00047748

                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        #103

                        @Catseye3 said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                        His support of politicians has always been transactional and extractive.

                        I'm certainly no fan of Murdoch, but this is just as it should be.

                        They're supposed to work for us, not the other way round. Obviously, Rupert Murdoch isn't one of 'us', but he certainly doesn't owe Donald Trump anything.

                        I was only joking

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                        • MikM Away
                          MikM Away
                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by Mik
                          #104

                          Actually, I find his ruthlessness refreshing. I've never minded dealing with people like that as long as I saw them coming. It's pretty easy to extract what value they offer by appearing to offer yours to them. It's a lot like hiring hookers - an unsavory but honest transaction.

                          This is where the street smarts I learned from my early reading of ghetto life and countless hours spent at a real pool hall came in handy.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            @Catseye3 said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                            His support of politicians has always been transactional and extractive.

                            I'm certainly no fan of Murdoch, but this is just as it should be.

                            They're supposed to work for us, not the other way round. Obviously, Rupert Murdoch isn't one of 'us', but he certainly doesn't owe Donald Trump anything.

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                            George K
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                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                            Rupert Murdoch ... doesn't owe Donald Trump anything.

                            Quite the other way around, as a matter of fact.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              George K
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                              FFS.

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                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                xenon
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                                #107

                                How do you take a person like this seriously?

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                                • X xenon

                                  How do you take a person like this seriously?

                                  George KG Offline
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                                  George K
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                                  @xenon said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                  How do you take a person like this seriously?

                                  You don't.

                                  He was always an obnoxious SOB, but he never seemed to be quite as unhinged as he is now. I always thought his comments during the primaries regarding his opponents ("Little Marco") the equivalent of the Italian "Busting balls."

                                  Now, it just seems mean spirited.

                                  I think he's smart enough to realize that he's become an albatross and just can't cope.

                                  Or not.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    I suppose he will be throwing tantrum haymakers until the referee calls it.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • CopperC Offline
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                                      Copper
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                                      I hate to make a judgment before all the facts are in, but it looks possible that he is still a jerk.

                                      This is a common condition for people from his neck of the woods.

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                                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #111

                                        He was never not this guy.

                                        I bet he still has Jolly’s vote. And Improv’s. And probably Copper.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          Depending on the circumstances, maybe.

                                          It's all about the judges, baby.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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