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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #18

    It's all cost/benefit.

    You or I may need it. George or Jon may need it. Younger people, especially those in their twenties (and younger) with no comorbidities?

    You're going to have to convince me.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • George KG George K

      @Jolly said in Positive again:

      As COVID strains multiply (and they will) and hopefully weaken,

      The worst thing a parasite can do is kill its host prematurely. Hopefully you're right.

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      Jolly
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      #19

      @George-K said in Positive again:

      @Jolly said in Positive again:

      As COVID strains multiply (and they will) and hopefully weaken,

      The worst thing a parasite can do is kill its host prematurely. Hopefully you're right.

      OTOH, did you see the stuff on the Gecko Virus (supposedly where RSV and Flu had combined into a single virus)?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • George KG George K

        After 5 vaccinations.

        https://time.com/6226752/cdc-director-positive-covid/

        NEW YORK — The head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has tested positive again for COVID-19.

        Dr. Rochelle Walensky had mild symptoms Sunday and is isolating at her home in Massachusetts, the CDC said Monday.

        Walensky, 53, first tested positive on Oct. 21. She took a course of the antiviral pill Paxlovid, and later tested negative. But the symptoms returned and Walensky is again in isolation, working and holding virtual meetings, the CDC said.

        Paxlovid has proven effective at preventing serious disease and death among those at highest risk, including older people and those who are immune compromised. But the pill appears to provide little or no benefit for younger adults. Some who take the drug have experienced a return of symptoms after completing Paxlovid’s five-day regimen of pills.

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        #20

        @George-K said in Positive again:

        After 5 vaccinations.

        I mean, the vaccinations aren't preventing someone from getting COVID, but they have helped massively in reducing sickness and death. Honestly, I wonder if I took a test every day (as I'm sure the CDC director and others probably do), I wonder if I would've tested positive.

        taiwan_girlT LuFins DadL 2 Replies Last reply
        • JollyJ Jolly

          It's all cost/benefit.

          You or I may need it. George or Jon may need it. Younger people, especially those in their twenties (and younger) with no comorbidities?

          You're going to have to convince me.

          MikM Offline
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          Mik
          wrote on last edited by Mik
          #21

          @Jolly said in Positive again:

          It's all cost/benefit.

          You or I may need it. George or Jon may need it. Younger people, especially those in their twenties (and younger) with no comorbidities?

          You're going to have to convince me.

          I would not try. They have the option to get it or not. I would encourage my daughter to do so.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • 89th8 89th

            @George-K said in Positive again:

            After 5 vaccinations.

            I mean, the vaccinations aren't preventing someone from getting COVID, but they have helped massively in reducing sickness and death. Honestly, I wonder if I took a test every day (as I'm sure the CDC director and others probably do), I wonder if I would've tested positive.

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            #22

            @89th said in Positive again:

            @George-K said in Positive again:

            After 5 vaccinations.

            I mean, the vaccinations aren't preventing someone from getting COVID, but they have helped massively in reducing sickness and death. Honestly, I wonder if I took a test every day (as I'm sure the CDC director and others probably do), I wonder if I would've tested positive.

            Exactly.

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            • MikM Mik

              @Jolly said in Positive again:

              It's all cost/benefit.

              You or I may need it. George or Jon may need it. Younger people, especially those in their twenties (and younger) with no comorbidities?

              You're going to have to convince me.

              I would not try. They have the option to get it or not. I would encourage my daughter to do so.

              taiwan_girlT Offline
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              taiwan_girl
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              @Mik said in Positive again:

              @Jolly said in Positive again:

              It's all cost/benefit.

              You or I may need it. George or Jon may need it. Younger people, especially those in their twenties (and younger) with no comorbidities?

              You're going to have to convince me.

              I would not try. They have the option to get it or not. I would encourage my daughter to do so.

              Exactly.

              It is sad that it has become so political in the US.

              (Some) Republicans look at everyone who gets it as some sort of non-patriot.

              (some) Democrats look at everyone who does not get it as some sort of non-patriot.

              To me, it is a "no-brainer".

              George KG 1 Reply Last reply
              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                #24

                What are the possible negative side effects from the vaccine in your age group? Do you have comorbidities? What is the mortality rate in your age group?

                Again, it's all cost/benefit.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • 89th8 89th

                  @George-K said in Positive again:

                  After 5 vaccinations.

                  I mean, the vaccinations aren't preventing someone from getting COVID, but they have helped massively in reducing sickness and death. Honestly, I wonder if I took a test every day (as I'm sure the CDC director and others probably do), I wonder if I would've tested positive.

                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
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                  #25

                  @89th said in Positive again:

                  @George-K said in Positive again:

                  After 5 vaccinations.

                  I mean, the vaccinations aren't preventing someone from getting COVID, but they have helped massively in reducing sickness and death. Honestly, I wonder if I took a test every day (as I'm sure the CDC director and others probably do), I wonder if I would've tested positive.

                  No, they haven’t. In your age range, 12 out of every 100,000 cases resulted in death in unvaccinated people. Now what do you think happens to those numbers when you take Diabetics out? https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.10.11.22280963v1

                  Try finding the post vaccination numbers. It’s actually quite difficult.

                  This is a deadly disease for the elderly and those with co-morbidities. Much less so for everybody else. Even with the vaccine, an elderly patient with the vaccines have much worse outcomes than unvaccinated youth.

                  The Brad

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    @Mik said in Positive again:

                    @Jolly said in Positive again:

                    It's all cost/benefit.

                    You or I may need it. George or Jon may need it. Younger people, especially those in their twenties (and younger) with no comorbidities?

                    You're going to have to convince me.

                    I would not try. They have the option to get it or not. I would encourage my daughter to do so.

                    Exactly.

                    It is sad that it has become so political in the US.

                    (Some) Republicans look at everyone who gets it as some sort of non-patriot.

                    (some) Democrats look at everyone who does not get it as some sort of non-patriot.

                    To me, it is a "no-brainer".

                    George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #26

                    @taiwan_girl said in Positive again:

                    It is sad that it has become so political in the US.

                    When you have the governor of New York and the candidate for Vice President say that she would never take a "Trump vaccine," back in late 2020...well that horse left the barn long, long ago.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      @89th said in Positive again:

                      @George-K said in Positive again:

                      After 5 vaccinations.

                      I mean, the vaccinations aren't preventing someone from getting COVID, but they have helped massively in reducing sickness and death. Honestly, I wonder if I took a test every day (as I'm sure the CDC director and others probably do), I wonder if I would've tested positive.

                      No, they haven’t. In your age range, 12 out of every 100,000 cases resulted in death in unvaccinated people. Now what do you think happens to those numbers when you take Diabetics out? https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.10.11.22280963v1

                      Try finding the post vaccination numbers. It’s actually quite difficult.

                      This is a deadly disease for the elderly and those with co-morbidities. Much less so for everybody else. Even with the vaccine, an elderly patient with the vaccines have much worse outcomes than unvaccinated youth.

                      JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #27

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Positive again:

                      @89th said in Positive again:

                      @George-K said in Positive again:

                      After 5 vaccinations.

                      I mean, the vaccinations aren't preventing someone from getting COVID, but they have helped massively in reducing sickness and death. Honestly, I wonder if I took a test every day (as I'm sure the CDC director and others probably do), I wonder if I would've tested positive.

                      No, they haven’t. In your age range, 12 out of every 100,000 cases resulted in death in unvaccinated people. Now what do you think happens to those numbers when you take Diabetics out? https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.10.11.22280963v1

                      Try finding the post vaccination numbers. It’s actually quite difficult.

                      This is a deadly disease for the elderly and those with co-morbidities. Much less so for everybody else. Even with the vaccine, an elderly patient with the vaccines have much worse outcomes than unvaccinated youth.

                      Numbers are hard to come by, aren't they? And VAERS borders on useless. I would love to see vaccine reactions/serious problems/deaths broken down by gender and age group.

                      I'd also like to see some current hard numbers on mortality rates in the elderly of COVID+comorbidities vs. Flu+comorbidities.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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