What does a red wave look like?
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If Republicans pickup 2 seats in the Senate and 30 in the House, does that constitute a “Red Wave” to you? What do you think a decisive victory for either party looks like?
@LuFins-Dad said in What does a red wave look like?:
If Republicans pickup 2 seats in the Senate and 30 in the House, does that constitute a “Red Wave” to you?
Certainly not. I don’t know how constructive it is to argue about slippery definitions but i would think “Red Wave” would require something materially greater than the average historical loss the incumbent president’s party sees in a midterm election.
(That average is 28 house seats and 4 senate seats.)
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@LuFins-Dad said in What does a red wave look like?:
If Republicans pickup 2 seats in the Senate and 30 in the House, does that constitute a “Red Wave” to you?
Certainly not. I don’t know how constructive it is to argue about slippery definitions but i would think “Red Wave” would require something materially greater than the average historical loss the incumbent president’s party sees in a midterm election.
(That average is 28 house seats and 4 senate seats.)
@jon-nyc said in What does a red wave look like?:
@LuFins-Dad said in What does a red wave look like?:
If Republicans pickup 2 seats in the Senate and 30 in the House, does that constitute a “Red Wave” to you?
Certainly not. I don’t know how constructive it is to argue about slippery definitions but i would think “Red Wave” would require something materially greater than the average historical loss the incumbent president’s party sees in a midterm election.
(That average is 28 house seats and 4 senate seats.)
That was kind of my thinking as well. I feel like we need to see at least 35 House Seats, and if the GOP only picks up 3 Senate Seats, I don’t know that is a “wave”. I suppose if you see some gains in Governors and State Houses…
Spanberger vs Vega in VA is going to tell you how bad of a night it will be for Democrats. I’m also watching the NH Senate Race…
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It won't be enough to give us a filibuster proof majority in the Senate. That's all that really matters at this point.
@Mik said in What does a red wave look like?:
It won't be enough to give us a filibuster proof majority in the Senate. That's all that really matters at this point.
Really what you would want is enough for a veto override, which is an even higher bar - 2/3 of each body.
"You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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@Mik said in What does a red wave look like?:
It won't be enough to give us a filibuster proof majority in the Senate. That's all that really matters at this point.
Really what you would want is enough for a veto override, which is an even higher bar - 2/3 of each body.
@jon-nyc said in What does a red wave look like?:
@Mik said in What does a red wave look like?:
It won't be enough to give us a filibuster proof majority in the Senate. That's all that really matters at this point.
Really what you would want is enough for a veto override, which is an even higher bar - 2/3 of each body.
When was the last time a party controlled that much of Congress? I mean, we’ve had vetoes overridden as recently as 2021, but when was the last time it was possible without bipartisan support?
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@jon-nyc said in What does a red wave look like?:
@Mik said in What does a red wave look like?:
It won't be enough to give us a filibuster proof majority in the Senate. That's all that really matters at this point.
Really what you would want is enough for a veto override, which is an even higher bar - 2/3 of each body.
When was the last time a party controlled that much of Congress? I mean, we’ve had vetoes overridden as recently as 2021, but when was the last time it was possible without bipartisan support?
@LuFins-Dad said in What does a red wave look like?:
When was the last time a party controlled that much of Congress?
1977 Congress 292 D (67%), 143 R Senate D (61%)D
1965 Congress 295 D (68%), 140 R Senate D (68%)D
https://history.house.gov/Institution/Party-Divisions/Party-Divisions/
https://www.senate.gov/history/partydiv.htm
Accomplishments, Great Society and Viet Nam
