24 hours from Tulsa....
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Trump campaign blames protesters for disappointing turnout at Tulsa rally https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/20/trump-rally-tulsa-coronavirus-reset-2020-campaign-330248
There is always someone else to blame.
wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 03:13 last edited by@Axtremus said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
Trump campaign blames protesters for disappointing turnout at Tulsa rally https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/20/trump-rally-tulsa-coronavirus-reset-2020-campaign-330248
There is always someone else to blame.
Is that your big take away? Was that your observation? I watched the first hour and the crowd look very large and enthusiastic.
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wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 03:17 last edited by
I'm on my second bottle of wine this weekend. I bet I'm having a lot more fun than those fuckers at either the Trump rally or the protests, and all I'm doing is watching frankly quite hilarious cat videos on YouTube. Much smaller chance of contracting Covid, and furthermore I don't have to listen to Donald Trump or wonder why people keep mis-spelling 'racist'.
I know, I know, I should be reading Schopenhauer or something, but fuck, Mr. Tibbles accidentally falling in the toilet is a lot more inspiring.
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@xenon you made me go onto YouTube and watch some of it, he is totally in his element. It’s actually very entertaining. Almost reminds me of WWE (wrestling) speeches.
Also not a surprise that some black Trump supporters coincidentally got seats directly behind him for the TV angles.
wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 14:17 last edited by@89th said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
Also not a surprise that all black Trump supporters coincidentally got seats directly behind him for the TV angles.
Made a slight change to your statement. LOL
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@Axtremus said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
Trump campaign blames protesters for disappointing turnout at Tulsa rally https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/20/trump-rally-tulsa-coronavirus-reset-2020-campaign-330248
There is always someone else to blame.
Is that your big take away? Was that your observation? I watched the first hour and the crowd look very large and enthusiastic.
wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 14:23 last edited by@Loki said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
I watched the first hour and the crowd look very large and enthusiastic.
Some numbers:
" ... a tally taken by the fire marshal clocked the turnout at just under 6,200 people"
Of course, that's still 6,200 more than Mr. Biden's non-rally.
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wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 14:30 last edited by
Sour grapes.
The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.
Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?
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wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 14:36 last edited by
Jolly, you never disappoint.
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wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 15:13 last edited by
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Sour grapes.
The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.
Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?
wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 15:27 last edited by jon-nyc@Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
Sour grapes.
The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.
Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?
No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.
Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.
Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.
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@Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
Sour grapes.
The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.
Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?
No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.
Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.
Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.
wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 15:36 last edited by@jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
@Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
Sour grapes.
The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.
Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?
No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.
Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.
Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.
People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.
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Sour grapes.
The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.
Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?
wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 16:40 last edited by@Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
Sour grapes.
The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.
Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?
That depends on how much they are paid.
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@jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
@Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
Sour grapes.
The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.
Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?
No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.
Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.
Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.
People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.
wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 17:04 last edited by@Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
@jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
@Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
Sour grapes.
The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.
Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?
No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.
Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.
Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.
People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.
This is true. And the other way too.
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@Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
@jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
@Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
Sour grapes.
The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.
Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?
No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.
Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.
Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.
People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.
This is true. And the other way too.
wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 17:08 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
@Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
@jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
@Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
Sour grapes.
The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.
Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?
No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.
Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.
Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.
People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.
This is true. And the other way too.
No, there are millions who will vote for Trump. There is a definite enthusiasm gap.
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@taiwan_girl said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
@Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
@jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
@Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
Sour grapes.
The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.
Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?
No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.
Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.
Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.
People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.
This is true. And the other way too.
No, there are millions who will vote for Trump. There is a definite enthusiasm gap.
wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 17:12 last edited by@Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
@taiwan_girl said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
@Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
@jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
@Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
Sour grapes.
The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.
Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?
No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.
Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.
Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.
People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.
This is true. And the other way too.
No, there are millions who will vote for Trump. There is a definite enthusiasm gap.
Agree, but also millions who will vote for President Trump because they do not like the alternate.
@Mik (I apologize if I am remember wrong) I think said something like, "I will hold my nose and vote for President Trump". And I am sure he is not alone.
At the end of the day, it does not matter your reason behind your vote, what only matters is how you voted.
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wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 17:16 last edited by Mik
Hell, I went to pick up my Peach Truck order this morning, looked at the situation and split. Chaos, no real distancing, few masks, hundreds or thousands of people. This is in one of the zip codes that are on the way up, so I suspect many infections will result.
Bummed out about the peaches (they really are fantastic) but I don't like them THAT much. I sent them and email and they promptly refunded my money, which was actually quite nice of them. I expected they might not.
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@Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
@taiwan_girl said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
@Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
@jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
@Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
Sour grapes.
The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.
Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?
No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.
Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.
Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.
People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.
This is true. And the other way too.
No, there are millions who will vote for Trump. There is a definite enthusiasm gap.
Agree, but also millions who will vote for President Trump because they do not like the alternate.
@Mik (I apologize if I am remember wrong) I think said something like, "I will hold my nose and vote for President Trump". And I am sure he is not alone.
At the end of the day, it does not matter your reason behind your vote, what only matters is how you voted.
wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 17:19 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
@Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
@taiwan_girl said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
@Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
@jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
@Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
Sour grapes.
The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.
Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?
No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.
Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.
Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.
People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.
This is true. And the other way too.
No, there are millions who will vote for Trump. There is a definite enthusiasm gap.
Agree, but also millions who will vote for President Trump because they do not like the alternate.
@Mik (I apologize if I am remember wrong) I think said something like, "I will hold my nose and vote for President Trump". And I am sure he is not alone.
At the end of the day, it does not matter your reason behind your vote, what only matters is how you voted.
I will vote, but truthfully I have not decided how yet. Sadly the libertarians aren't running anybody good this year. Trump's lack of leadership lately is concerning to me. He seems to be floundering.
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wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 04:10 last edited by
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/06/after-tulsa-parscale-and-kushner-on-trumps-hit-list
“After Tulsa Catastrophe, Parscale—And Kushner—Is at the Top of Trump’s Hit List”
It is always someone else’s fault.
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wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 04:18 last edited by
"The sources said that Parscale, reading the tea leaves, is planning to step down. “He knows he can’t survive,” one source told me."
Ha! Did I call it or what??? I knew we should've had a TNCR office pool!
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wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 04:28 last edited by
Wait wait wait - this event was a success. I read that here.
And the reporting about Trump being livid came from ABC - it can only be fake.
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wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 11:16 last edited by
I think it was a success. Eight million viewers ain't bad. I think Trump on offense is better than Trump on defense, and Trump was having fun flaying The Senile Patient.
No, the crowd wasn't as large as hoped. Virus, you know.
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I think it was a success. Eight million viewers ain't bad. I think Trump on offense is better than Trump on defense, and Trump was having fun flaying The Senile Patient.
No, the crowd wasn't as large as hoped. Virus, you know.
wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 11:42 last edited by@Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:
No, the crowd wasn't as large as hoped. Virus, you know.
What makes more sense is that people stayed away for more than one reason:
- Virus
- Fear of protesters
- Unrealistic estimate of needed capacity; there was never going to be 20,000
- Clearing the White House protesters and the Bible stunt turned people off
- Enthusiasm for Trump diminishing from 2016
- Why bother if Biden is going to win