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  • J Jolly
    15 Nov 2022, 03:47

    I think she showed a lot of promise. Articulate, energetic and a lot of her volunteers were young people. Her opponent refused to debate her.

    Maybe all Demonrats will soon adopt the Biden Basement Strategy.

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    Axtremus
    wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 04:06 last edited by
    #52

    @Jolly said in The Lake:

    ... the Biden Basement Strategy.

    Why mess with a winning strategy?

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      xenon
      wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 04:17 last edited by
      #53

      I know next to nothing about her stances - but it's nice to see team Trump lose another one.

      Hopefully creates space for other Republicans by solidifying Trump's brand as electoral toxic.

      R's should have had this one in the bag.

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      • X xenon
        15 Nov 2022, 04:17

        I know next to nothing about her stances - but it's nice to see team Trump lose another one.

        Hopefully creates space for other Republicans by solidifying Trump's brand as electoral toxic.

        R's should have had this one in the bag.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 04:18 last edited by
        #54

        @xenon said in The Lake:

        I know next to nothing about her stances - but it's nice to see team Trump lose another one.

        Hopefully creates space for other Republicans by solidifying Trump's brand as electoral toxic.

        R's should have had this one in the bag.

        That's a pretty shitty statement, isn't it?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • J Jolly
          15 Nov 2022, 04:18

          @xenon said in The Lake:

          I know next to nothing about her stances - but it's nice to see team Trump lose another one.

          Hopefully creates space for other Republicans by solidifying Trump's brand as electoral toxic.

          R's should have had this one in the bag.

          That's a pretty shitty statement, isn't it?

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          xenon
          wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 04:19 last edited by xenon
          #55

          @Jolly said in The Lake:

          @xenon said in The Lake:

          I know next to nothing about her stances - but it's nice to see team Trump lose another one.

          Hopefully creates space for other Republicans by solidifying Trump's brand as electoral toxic.

          R's should have had this one in the bag.

          That's a pretty shitty statement, isn't it?

          Not as shitty as Trump 😛

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            George K
            wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 12:19 last edited by
            #56

            The moment where Lake lost:

            There's a difference between thinking something and saying it, potentially pissing off a bunch of people.

            She didn't appreciate that difference with this comment.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • J Jolly
              15 Nov 2022, 03:47

              I think she showed a lot of promise. Articulate, energetic and a lot of her volunteers were young people. Her opponent refused to debate her.

              Maybe all Demonrats will soon adopt the Biden Basement Strategy.

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              George K
              wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 12:20 last edited by
              #57

              @Jolly said in The Lake:

              Maybe all Demonrats will soon adopt the Biden Basement Strategy.

              Hobbs and Fetterman (mostly) did exactly that.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • G George K
                15 Nov 2022, 12:20

                @Jolly said in The Lake:

                Maybe all Demonrats will soon adopt the Biden Basement Strategy.

                Hobbs and Fetterman (mostly) did exactly that.

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 12:28 last edited by
                #58

                Critiquing the basement strategy misses the fact that the folks who are losing are losing all by themselves. They’re not winning people over. They are the ones who are failing here.

                Maybe they’re the ones who need to change what they’re saying? Well, not maybe, obviously. At least it should be obvious.

                I was only joking

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 12:50 last edited by
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                  It’s good to see Trumpiness unequivocally rejected. Let’s rip the bandaid off and proceed with better candidates. This would be a painful lesson to have to relearn next election.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • D Doctor Phibes
                    15 Nov 2022, 12:28

                    Critiquing the basement strategy misses the fact that the folks who are losing are losing all by themselves. They’re not winning people over. They are the ones who are failing here.

                    Maybe they’re the ones who need to change what they’re saying? Well, not maybe, obviously. At least it should be obvious.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 12:57 last edited by
                    #60

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                    Critiquing the basement strategy misses the fact that the folks who are losing are losing all by themselves. They’re not winning people over. They are the ones who are failing here.

                    Maybe they’re the ones who need to change what they’re saying? Well, not maybe, obviously. At least it should be obvious.

                    Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 13:57 last edited by
                      #61

                      Right, that’s why you fucking lost.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 14:00 last edited by
                        #62

                        Enjoy it while you can.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • J Jolly
                          15 Nov 2022, 12:57

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                          Critiquing the basement strategy misses the fact that the folks who are losing are losing all by themselves. They’re not winning people over. They are the ones who are failing here.

                          Maybe they’re the ones who need to change what they’re saying? Well, not maybe, obviously. At least it should be obvious.

                          Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 14:58 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                          #63

                          @Jolly said in The Lake:

                          Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

                          What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

                          YMMV.

                          I was only joking

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                          • D Doctor Phibes
                            15 Nov 2022, 14:58

                            @Jolly said in The Lake:

                            Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

                            What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

                            YMMV.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 16:20 last edited by
                            #64

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                            @Jolly said in The Lake:

                            Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

                            What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

                            YMMV.

                            Nice deflection. Are you unwilling or unable to answer the question?

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              89th
                              wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 16:41 last edited by
                              #65

                              @Jolly today my toddler was counting... 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 13, 14. And my dad said "Look, a future election official!" Thought you'd appreciate that.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 17:57 last edited by
                                #66

                                Smart dad.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • J Jolly
                                  15 Nov 2022, 16:20

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                                  @Jolly said in The Lake:

                                  Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

                                  What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

                                  YMMV.

                                  Nice deflection. Are you unwilling or unable to answer the question?

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 18:06 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                  #67

                                  @Jolly said in The Lake:

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                                  @Jolly said in The Lake:

                                  Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

                                  What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

                                  YMMV.

                                  Nice deflection. Are you unwilling or unable to answer the question?

                                  OK, how about this - If you'd stop selecting shitty candidates, you wouldn't have to start resorting to unsubstantiated claims of election fraud to explain away your party's failure.

                                  The people you're praising are the ones losing the elections. You need to pick different people. Charisma and new ideas are great, however if you're losing elections, then there's a reason. Blaming it on cheating isn't really cutting it - the people who do so are the ones losing, so they're not exactly unbiased.

                                  I was only joking

                                  J 1 Reply Last reply 15 Nov 2022, 18:25
                                  • D Doctor Phibes
                                    15 Nov 2022, 18:06

                                    @Jolly said in The Lake:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                                    @Jolly said in The Lake:

                                    Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

                                    What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

                                    YMMV.

                                    Nice deflection. Are you unwilling or unable to answer the question?

                                    OK, how about this - If you'd stop selecting shitty candidates, you wouldn't have to start resorting to unsubstantiated claims of election fraud to explain away your party's failure.

                                    The people you're praising are the ones losing the elections. You need to pick different people. Charisma and new ideas are great, however if you're losing elections, then there's a reason. Blaming it on cheating isn't really cutting it - the people who do so are the ones losing, so they're not exactly unbiased.

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 18:25 last edited by
                                    #68

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                                    @Jolly said in The Lake:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                                    @Jolly said in The Lake:

                                    Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

                                    What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

                                    YMMV.

                                    Nice deflection. Are you unwilling or unable to answer the question?

                                    OK, how about this - If you'd stop selecting shitty candidates, you wouldn't have to start resorting to unsubstantiated claims of election fraud to explain away your party's failure.

                                    The people you're praising are the ones losing the elections. You need to pick different people. Charisma and new ideas are great, however if you're losing elections, then there's a reason. Blaming it on cheating isn't really cutting it - the people who do so are the ones losing, so they're not exactly unbiased.

                                    I don't think Lake is a shitty candidate. I've read her platform, I've watched her speak a few times and she's very articulate. I think she stuck her foot in her mouth with the McCain comment, but saying she's a shitty candidate shows just how stupid or ignorant you are. For the moment, my money is on ignorant.

                                    Change my mind.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • G George K
                                      15 Nov 2022, 12:19

                                      The moment where Lake lost:

                                      There's a difference between thinking something and saying it, potentially pissing off a bunch of people.

                                      She didn't appreciate that difference with this comment.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 18:27 last edited by
                                      #69

                                      @George-K said in The Lake:

                                      The moment where Lake lost:

                                      There's a difference between thinking something and saying it, potentially pissing off a bunch of people.

                                      She didn't appreciate that difference with this comment.

                                      Yep.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • J Jolly
                                        15 Nov 2022, 18:25

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                                        @Jolly said in The Lake:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                                        @Jolly said in The Lake:

                                        Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

                                        What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

                                        YMMV.

                                        Nice deflection. Are you unwilling or unable to answer the question?

                                        OK, how about this - If you'd stop selecting shitty candidates, you wouldn't have to start resorting to unsubstantiated claims of election fraud to explain away your party's failure.

                                        The people you're praising are the ones losing the elections. You need to pick different people. Charisma and new ideas are great, however if you're losing elections, then there's a reason. Blaming it on cheating isn't really cutting it - the people who do so are the ones losing, so they're not exactly unbiased.

                                        I don't think Lake is a shitty candidate. I've read her platform, I've watched her speak a few times and she's very articulate. I think she stuck her foot in her mouth with the McCain comment, but saying she's a shitty candidate shows just how stupid or ignorant you are. For the moment, my money is on ignorant.

                                        Change my mind.

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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 19:04 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                        #70

                                        @Jolly said in The Lake:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                                        @Jolly said in The Lake:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                                        @Jolly said in The Lake:

                                        Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

                                        What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

                                        YMMV.

                                        Nice deflection. Are you unwilling or unable to answer the question?

                                        OK, how about this - If you'd stop selecting shitty candidates, you wouldn't have to start resorting to unsubstantiated claims of election fraud to explain away your party's failure.

                                        The people you're praising are the ones losing the elections. You need to pick different people. Charisma and new ideas are great, however if you're losing elections, then there's a reason. Blaming it on cheating isn't really cutting it - the people who do so are the ones losing, so they're not exactly unbiased.

                                        I don't think Lake is a shitty candidate. I've read her platform, I've watched her speak a few times and she's very articulate. I think she stuck her foot in her mouth with the McCain comment, but saying she's a shitty candidate shows just how stupid or ignorant you are. For the moment, my money is on ignorant.

                                        Change my mind.

                                        Why did she make the McCain comment? Something must have provoked it.

                                        Of course, we all know the answer to that. Donald Trump is why she said it. Conservatives need to divest themselves from Trump. The things he said about John McCain were frankly embarrassing to watch. Worse was watching people who formerly claimed to have respect for McCain fall in line and start railing on him.

                                        I was only joking

                                        J 1 Reply Last reply 15 Nov 2022, 19:57
                                        • D Doctor Phibes
                                          15 Nov 2022, 19:04

                                          @Jolly said in The Lake:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                                          @Jolly said in The Lake:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                                          @Jolly said in The Lake:

                                          Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

                                          What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

                                          YMMV.

                                          Nice deflection. Are you unwilling or unable to answer the question?

                                          OK, how about this - If you'd stop selecting shitty candidates, you wouldn't have to start resorting to unsubstantiated claims of election fraud to explain away your party's failure.

                                          The people you're praising are the ones losing the elections. You need to pick different people. Charisma and new ideas are great, however if you're losing elections, then there's a reason. Blaming it on cheating isn't really cutting it - the people who do so are the ones losing, so they're not exactly unbiased.

                                          I don't think Lake is a shitty candidate. I've read her platform, I've watched her speak a few times and she's very articulate. I think she stuck her foot in her mouth with the McCain comment, but saying she's a shitty candidate shows just how stupid or ignorant you are. For the moment, my money is on ignorant.

                                          Change my mind.

                                          Why did she make the McCain comment? Something must have provoked it.

                                          Of course, we all know the answer to that. Donald Trump is why she said it. Conservatives need to divest themselves from Trump. The things he said about John McCain were frankly embarrassing to watch. Worse was watching people who formerly claimed to have respect for McCain fall in line and start railing on him.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 19:57 last edited by
                                          #71

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                                          @Jolly said in The Lake:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                                          @Jolly said in The Lake:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in The Lake:

                                          @Jolly said in The Lake:

                                          Hard to make a mistake when you're running a Biden Basement campaign. So, is that what we want, mayonnaise and white bread politics? No original thinking, no charismatic candidates? It's Fetterman & Hobbs, almost unable or unwilling to speak, letting their large war chests buy their messaging through all forms of media?

                                          What I'd like is an end to the conspiracy theorists, whackjobs, and followers of the Trump personality cu*t .

                                          YMMV.

                                          Nice deflection. Are you unwilling or unable to answer the question?

                                          OK, how about this - If you'd stop selecting shitty candidates, you wouldn't have to start resorting to unsubstantiated claims of election fraud to explain away your party's failure.

                                          The people you're praising are the ones losing the elections. You need to pick different people. Charisma and new ideas are great, however if you're losing elections, then there's a reason. Blaming it on cheating isn't really cutting it - the people who do so are the ones losing, so they're not exactly unbiased.

                                          I don't think Lake is a shitty candidate. I've read her platform, I've watched her speak a few times and she's very articulate. I think she stuck her foot in her mouth with the McCain comment, but saying she's a shitty candidate shows just how stupid or ignorant you are. For the moment, my money is on ignorant.

                                          Change my mind.

                                          Why did she make the McCain comment? Something must have provoked it.

                                          Of course, we all know the answer to that. Donald Trump is why she said it. Conservatives need to divest themselves from Trump. The things he said about John McCain were frankly embarrassing to watch. Worse was watching people who formerly claimed to have respect for McCain fall in line and start railing on him.

                                          Obamacare.

                                          The catalyst, remember?

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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