Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2
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@Renauda said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:
@Klaus said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:
I seriously wonder why Russia hasn't attacked other non-Russian gas pipelines (such as the ones from Norway). That would do real damage to the European energy market.
That would trigger Article 5 of the NATO Alliance. You know what means.
But you could do it in such a way that it isn't obvious who the culprit is.
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wrote on 30 Sept 2022, 12:32 last edited by
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wrote on 1 Oct 2022, 14:01 last edited by
Putin explains.
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wrote on 1 Oct 2022, 18:00 last edited by
File this under interesting speculation of the "cui bono" variety:
Could China have done it?
It pinches Europe while giving them monopsony power buying Russian gas.
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wrote on 4 Oct 2022, 20:36 last edited by
Who might have or probably did it:
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wrote on 4 Oct 2022, 20:44 last edited by
Interesting but he could also have covered US and Chinese incentives.
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wrote on 5 Oct 2022, 00:13 last edited by
Hybrid warfare, is Norway’s production next?
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wrote on 18 Oct 2022, 22:50 last edited by
Pitchers
https://www.newsweek.com/new-images-reveal-extent-damage-done-nord-stream-after-explosion-1752869
Danish investigators believe that the damage to the Nord Stream pipelines by "powerful explosions."
One source claims the explosions came from within the pipeline.
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Pitchers
https://www.newsweek.com/new-images-reveal-extent-damage-done-nord-stream-after-explosion-1752869
Danish investigators believe that the damage to the Nord Stream pipelines by "powerful explosions."
One source claims the explosions came from within the pipeline.
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wrote on 19 Oct 2022, 11:06 last edited by
“… long tears in the seabed near the concrete-reinforced steel pipe that was not merely cracked but torn apart ... At least 50 metres of the gas pipeline appeared to be missing.”
…Based on original reporting by a Swedish news site (more pictures and videos here): https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/forsta-bilderna-fran-sprangda-gasroret-pa-ostersjons-botten/
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wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 12:17 last edited by
Swedish authorities investigating a series of blasts that damaged undersea natural-gas pipelines in the Baltic Sea said they had found traces of explosives on several foreign objects nearby, a potential break in an international probe into who was responsible for what authorities have called sabotage.
Sweden, in a statement Friday, said it found traces of explosives on several of the foreign objects. It didn’t elaborate but said it was continuing the “very complex and extensive” probe aimed at finding a culprit.
The discovery of explosives could help investigators learn the origins of the material. A press officer at the prosecutor’s office said it wasn’t clear if the material they had found was traceable.
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wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 12:53 last edited by
So, what is the West going to do about it?
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wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 16:37 last edited by
@Renauda said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:
Continue to sanction and isolate Russia.
I've read that that's not making as serious an effect as hoped.
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@Renauda said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:
Continue to sanction and isolate Russia.
I've read that that's not making as serious an effect as hoped.
wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 17:57 last edited by RenaudaWell diplomacy hasn’t worked with Russia. Appeasement will only encourage continued bad behaviour in future. Doesn’t leave much else in the toolbox short of regime change. Don’t think anyone has the desire for the unintended consequences of that option.
So containment via economic sanction and political isolation remain the only practicable options in addition to material and technical support of Ukraine we have at the moment.
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wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 18:14 last edited by
The support for Ukraine may slow with a coming recession.
