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  • J Jolly
    28 Sept 2022, 12:52

    BTW, was either pipeline pumping gas right now?

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 28 Sept 2022, 12:54 last edited by
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    @Jolly Not appreciably, Putin had them down “for maintenance”. But there’s enough gas to divert shipping out of fear of explosions.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 28 Sept 2022, 13:16 last edited by
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      Interesting pipeline. 48", 3200 psi. Biggest I ever worked on was 36", 1500psi.

      Those two lines are running a lot of gas...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • J Jolly
        28 Sept 2022, 13:16

        Interesting pipeline. 48", 3200 psi. Biggest I ever worked on was 36", 1500psi.

        Those two lines are running a lot of gas...

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        George K
        wrote on 28 Sept 2022, 13:29 last edited by
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        @Jolly said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

        running a lot of gas...

        How many cow farts is that?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 28 Sept 2022, 13:35 last edited by
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          Me thanes a lot...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • J Jolly
            28 Sept 2022, 13:16

            Interesting pipeline. 48", 3200 psi. Biggest I ever worked on was 36", 1500psi.

            Those two lines are running a lot of gas...

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            89th
            wrote on 28 Sept 2022, 14:06 last edited by
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            @Jolly said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

            Interesting pipeline. 48", 3200 psi. Biggest I ever worked on was 36", 1500psi.

            Those two lines are running a lot of gas...

            Today's lesson on how ignorant I am on the topic:

            1. Can they turn off the source of the gas?
            2. Is the natural gas liquified to go in the pipeline?
            3. How come these pipelines don't just explode every 5 seconds?
            4. How is natural gas even extracted (I presume it's in a gas state at the source below the rocks)?
            5. The world really needs to learn how to live without the finite fuels we have to dig up from under rocks. Let's go nuclear.
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            • 8 89th
              28 Sept 2022, 14:06

              @Jolly said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

              Interesting pipeline. 48", 3200 psi. Biggest I ever worked on was 36", 1500psi.

              Those two lines are running a lot of gas...

              Today's lesson on how ignorant I am on the topic:

              1. Can they turn off the source of the gas?
              2. Is the natural gas liquified to go in the pipeline?
              3. How come these pipelines don't just explode every 5 seconds?
              4. How is natural gas even extracted (I presume it's in a gas state at the source below the rocks)?
              5. The world really needs to learn how to live without the finite fuels we have to dig up from under rocks. Let's go nuclear.
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 28 Sept 2022, 14:17 last edited by jon-nyc
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              @89th said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

              @Jolly said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

              Interesting pipeline. 48", 3200 psi. Biggest I ever worked on was 36", 1500psi.

              Those two lines are running a lot of gas...

              Today's lesson on how ignorant I am on the topic:

              1. Can they turn off the source of the gas? Yes
              2. Is the natural gas liquified to go in the pipeline? NO, BUT GAS IS LIQUIFIED FOR TRANSPORT ON SPECIAL SHIPS "LNG"
              3. How come these pipelines don't just explode every 5 seconds? ENGINEERING
              4. How is natural gas even extracted (I presume it's in a gas state at the source below the rocks)? YES, DRILL AND IT JUST COMES OUT. UNLESS IT'S STUCK IN CREVICES THE YOU HAVE TO USE WATER PRESSURE TO FRACTURE THE ROCKS. "FRACKING". YEARS AGO THEY WOULD JUST BURN THE GAS OFF SO THEY COULD GET TO THE OIL. IM SURE THEY STILL DO WITH REMOTE WELLS THAT HAVE NO NEARBY PIPELINE INFRASTRUCTURE
              5. The world really needs to learn how to live without the finite fuels we have to dig up from under rocks. Let's go nuclear. HELL YES

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • J jon-nyc
                28 Sept 2022, 14:17

                @89th said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

                @Jolly said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

                Interesting pipeline. 48", 3200 psi. Biggest I ever worked on was 36", 1500psi.

                Those two lines are running a lot of gas...

                Today's lesson on how ignorant I am on the topic:

                1. Can they turn off the source of the gas? Yes
                2. Is the natural gas liquified to go in the pipeline? NO, BUT GAS IS LIQUIFIED FOR TRANSPORT ON SPECIAL SHIPS "LNG"
                3. How come these pipelines don't just explode every 5 seconds? ENGINEERING
                4. How is natural gas even extracted (I presume it's in a gas state at the source below the rocks)? YES, DRILL AND IT JUST COMES OUT. UNLESS IT'S STUCK IN CREVICES THE YOU HAVE TO USE WATER PRESSURE TO FRACTURE THE ROCKS. "FRACKING". YEARS AGO THEY WOULD JUST BURN THE GAS OFF SO THEY COULD GET TO THE OIL. IM SURE THEY STILL DO WITH REMOTE WELLS THAT HAVE NO NEARBY PIPELINE INFRASTRUCTURE
                5. The world really needs to learn how to live without the finite fuels we have to dig up from under rocks. Let's go nuclear. HELL YES
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                89th
                wrote on 28 Sept 2022, 14:48 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc Cool thx

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                  Klaus
                  wrote on 28 Sept 2022, 17:29 last edited by
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                  I seriously wonder why Russia hasn't attacked other non-Russian gas pipelines (such as the ones from Norway). That would do real damage to the European energy market.

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                  • J jon-nyc
                    28 Sept 2022, 14:17

                    @89th said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

                    @Jolly said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

                    Interesting pipeline. 48", 3200 psi. Biggest I ever worked on was 36", 1500psi.

                    Those two lines are running a lot of gas...

                    Today's lesson on how ignorant I am on the topic:

                    1. Can they turn off the source of the gas? Yes
                    2. Is the natural gas liquified to go in the pipeline? NO, BUT GAS IS LIQUIFIED FOR TRANSPORT ON SPECIAL SHIPS "LNG"
                    3. How come these pipelines don't just explode every 5 seconds? ENGINEERING
                    4. How is natural gas even extracted (I presume it's in a gas state at the source below the rocks)? YES, DRILL AND IT JUST COMES OUT. UNLESS IT'S STUCK IN CREVICES THE YOU HAVE TO USE WATER PRESSURE TO FRACTURE THE ROCKS. "FRACKING". YEARS AGO THEY WOULD JUST BURN THE GAS OFF SO THEY COULD GET TO THE OIL. IM SURE THEY STILL DO WITH REMOTE WELLS THAT HAVE NO NEARBY PIPELINE INFRASTRUCTURE
                    5. The world really needs to learn how to live without the finite fuels we have to dig up from under rocks. Let's go nuclear. HELL YES
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 28 Sept 2022, 17:33 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

                    @89th said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

                    @Jolly said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

                    Interesting pipeline. 48", 3200 psi. Biggest I ever worked on was 36", 1500psi.

                    Those two lines are running a lot of gas...

                    Today's lesson on how ignorant I am on the topic:

                    1. Can they turn off the source of the gas? Yes
                    2. Is the natural gas liquified to go in the pipeline? NO, BUT GAS IS LIQUIFIED FOR TRANSPORT ON SPECIAL SHIPS "LNG"
                    3. How come these pipelines don't just explode every 5 seconds? ENGINEERING
                    4. How is natural gas even extracted (I presume it's in a gas state at the source below the rocks)? YES, DRILL AND IT JUST COMES OUT. UNLESS IT'S STUCK IN CREVICES THE YOU HAVE TO USE WATER PRESSURE TO FRACTURE THE ROCKS. "FRACKING". YEARS AGO THEY WOULD JUST BURN THE GAS OFF SO THEY COULD GET TO THE OIL. IM SURE THEY STILL DO WITH REMOTE WELLS THAT HAVE NO NEARBY PIPELINE INFRASTRUCTURE
                    5. The world really needs to learn how to live without the finite fuels we have to dig up from under rocks. Let's go nuclear. HELL YES

                    They still flare down here at isolated wells. It's really nice if the well is on your property and they'll let you use the gas.

                    Or, you can go out and steal some casing head...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • K Klaus
                      28 Sept 2022, 17:29

                      I seriously wonder why Russia hasn't attacked other non-Russian gas pipelines (such as the ones from Norway). That would do real damage to the European energy market.

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 28 Sept 2022, 18:30 last edited by Renauda 10 Apr 2022, 20:37
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                      @Klaus said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

                      I seriously wonder why Russia hasn't attacked other non-Russian gas pipelines (such as the ones from Norway). That would do real damage to the European energy market.

                      That would trigger Article 5 of the NATO Alliance. You know what that means.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • R Renauda
                        28 Sept 2022, 18:30

                        @Klaus said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

                        I seriously wonder why Russia hasn't attacked other non-Russian gas pipelines (such as the ones from Norway). That would do real damage to the European energy market.

                        That would trigger Article 5 of the NATO Alliance. You know what that means.

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                        Klaus
                        wrote on 28 Sept 2022, 18:41 last edited by
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                        @Renauda said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

                        @Klaus said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

                        I seriously wonder why Russia hasn't attacked other non-Russian gas pipelines (such as the ones from Norway). That would do real damage to the European energy market.

                        That would trigger Article 5 of the NATO Alliance. You know what means.

                        But you could do it in such a way that it isn't obvious who the culprit is.

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                        • K Klaus
                          28 Sept 2022, 18:41

                          @Renauda said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

                          @Klaus said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:

                          I seriously wonder why Russia hasn't attacked other non-Russian gas pipelines (such as the ones from Norway). That would do real damage to the European energy market.

                          That would trigger Article 5 of the NATO Alliance. You know what means.

                          But you could do it in such a way that it isn't obvious who the culprit is.

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 28 Sept 2022, 18:54 last edited by
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                          @Klaus

                          Not if the FSB were involved. Lately it tends to leave its greasy fingerprints not to mention chemical residue all over any convert operations it undertakes.

                          Elbows up!

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 30 Sept 2022, 12:32 last edited by
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                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 30 Sept 2022, 13:29 last edited by
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                                George K
                                wrote on 1 Oct 2022, 14:01 last edited by
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                                Putin explains.

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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 1 Oct 2022, 18:00 last edited by
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                                  File this under interesting speculation of the "cui bono" variety:

                                  Could China have done it?

                                  It pinches Europe while giving them monopsony power buying Russian gas.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 4 Oct 2022, 20:36 last edited by
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                                    Who might have or probably did it:

                                    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/10/04/shock-and-awe-who-attacked-the-nord-stream-pipelines-a78952

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 4 Oct 2022, 20:44 last edited by
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                                      Interesting but he could also have covered US and Chinese incentives.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • J jon-nyc
                                        4 Oct 2022, 20:44

                                        Interesting but he could also have covered US and Chinese incentives.

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 4 Oct 2022, 21:46 last edited by
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                                        @jon-nyc

                                        The fact that Tucker Carlson had already JAQed off over US incentives likely served as a deterrent for him. Good question about China though.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on 5 Oct 2022, 00:13 last edited by
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                                          Hybrid warfare, is Norway’s production next?

                                          https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/is-russia-preparing-to-target-vital-norwegian-energy-exports-to-europe/?mkt_tok=NjU5LVdaWC0wNzUAAAGHQ8XpilwoHYXpb57A1ArgS4lU4Qi0oF531tPyaXt08gMC1cNkIhYqSlUZHxmP3bE6jjLMQpaxje-VMFd4sXHRlspW665fCDkI_I9nGfASeg

                                          Elbows up!

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