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  • AxtremusA Away
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    Axtremus
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    #18

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/22/florida-politicians-coronavirus-surge-333611

    'Government itself can't solve this problem': Florida officials alarmed as virus rages
    “ Florida officials expressed new concern on Monday that the tactics used to slow the spread of the coronavirus are falling short and may not be enough to stop a resurgence of positive cases before the state hosts part of the Republican National Convention in August.

    Top Republican politicians and the state official leading Florida’s response to the pandemic urged businesses and residents — particularly young people — to stay vigilant about social distancing, leaving the fight in the hands of some of the same people who helped fuel the latest uptick in cases.
    ...“

    Yeah, do all that to keep case count low, then let Trump and the RNC come into town with a large crowd, no social distancing, and no face task to fuck everything up again.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #19

      They will not do all that. Edwards announced yesterday, we will remain in Phase 2 for 28 more days. Big deal...People, particularly young people, have said to hell with it and are living life as usual.

      I suspect Florida is doing the same thing.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #20

        Thoughts on this?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
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          #21

          So it's already killed off the nursing home population, eh? Heck, the ones that are left can now get infected by the young workers. Swell.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #22

            Since you mentioned nursing homes, I would like to see a similar analysis of New York.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Doctor Phibes
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              #23

              The first question I always ask is, in this case 'Who is Justin Hart?'

              I was only joking

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
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                #24

                Someone needs to tell him about time lag.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  #25

                  It looks as though he's been saying we're over-reacting since at least March.

                  Another one of those guys, IOW.

                  I was only joking

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Someone needs to tell him about time lag.

                    George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #26

                    @jon-nyc said in Florida:

                    Someone needs to tell him about time lag.

                    Here's some time perspective for Florida - re-opening vs cases vs deaths.

                    Texas and Arizona also in the Twitter thread. Arizona is interesting.

                    Toward the end of the thread there's California.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
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                      #27

                      Was thinking something similar regarding the lag. Let’s see the numbers of hospitalizations in Mid-July and deaths in early August.

                      Still, the younger ages of the infected will likely result in lower rates of hospitalizations and deaths, so the truth will again be somewhere in the middle.

                      The Brad

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        jon-nyc
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                        #28

                        Yeah, none of these tweets will age well. You would expect the first to venture out to the bars and theaters etc to be young. And for that matter protests. But when we get to the 2nd and 3rd generation of case spawned by that crowd, the age distribution will broaden.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          jon-nyc
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                          #29

                          It's really only been about 2.5 weeks since the cases took off. And they really took off only in the last few days.

                          Screen Shot 2020-06-28 at 11.55.57 AM.png

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            It's really only been about 2.5 weeks since the cases took off. And they really took off only in the last few days.

                            Screen Shot 2020-06-28 at 11.55.57 AM.png

                            George KG Offline
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                            George K
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                            #30

                            @jon-nyc interesting depressing.

                            Is that at the "infection2020" site?

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              jon-nyc
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                              #31

                              Those particular graphs were from NYT, I like them because they show the 7 day average.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                Someone needs to tell him about time lag.

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                                Loki
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                                #32

                                @jon-nyc said in Florida:

                                Someone needs to tell him about time lag.

                                Even if the average age is 36?

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                                • L Loki

                                  @jon-nyc said in Florida:

                                  Someone needs to tell him about time lag.

                                  Even if the average age is 36?

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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  #33

                                  @Loki said in Florida:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Florida:

                                  Someone needs to tell him about time lag.

                                  Even if the average age is 36?

                                  Especially when the average age is 36.

                                  The Brad

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #34

                                    Yes.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Yes.

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                                      Loki
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                                      #35

                                      @jon-nyc said in Florida:

                                      Yes.

                                      Id love to see your math equation on that. What is your IFR on a 36 y.o.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        Yeah, none of these tweets will age well. You would expect the first to venture out to the bars and theaters etc to be young. And for that matter protests. But when we get to the 2nd and 3rd generation of case spawned by that crowd, the age distribution will broaden.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #36

                                        @jon-nyc said in Florida:

                                        Yeah, none of these tweets will age well. You would expect the first to venture out to the bars and theaters etc to be young. And for that matter protests. But when we get to the 2nd and 3rd generation of case spawned by that crowd, the age distribution will broaden.

                                        Bumping for Loki, easier than repeating myself.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          @jon-nyc said in Florida:

                                          Yeah, none of these tweets will age well. You would expect the first to venture out to the bars and theaters etc to be young. And for that matter protests. But when we get to the 2nd and 3rd generation of case spawned by that crowd, the age distribution will broaden.

                                          Bumping for Loki, easier than repeating myself.

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                                          Loki
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                                          #37

                                          @jon-nyc said in Florida:

                                          @jon-nyc said in Florida:

                                          Yeah, none of these tweets will age well. You would expect the first to venture out to the bars and theaters etc to be young. And for that matter protests. But when we get to the 2nd and 3rd generation of case spawned by that crowd, the age distribution will broaden.

                                          Bumping for Loki, easier than repeating myself.

                                          Ah, so that is the lag you are talking about. I think you are somewhat right but I think the old and vulnerable are much more protected this time around.

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