She’s gone.
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I really think they fade away after this. Felipe of Spain is the last real European monarch of importance.
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@jon-nyc said in She’s gone.:
Seems correct, though if William has it for some decades you could imagine him developing quite a bit of gravitas over time.
Indeed, I think William will provide another 40-50 years of solid monarchy rule, then another 40-50 years by his son George.
That being said, the monarchy is certainly a "thing" that doesn't really fit in with the fast-moving culture that must be politically correct, woke, anti-rich, anti-white, etc.......but it seems as long as the Brits support it, it will exist, for whatever purpose it serves these days.
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Seen on a blog:
"I'm an American. I can NOT hear this song without hearing the words to My Country 'Tis Of Thee, either in my head or, if I'm alone, out loud. That's how I learned it as a child, and that's how it stuck. Today, in Her Majesty's honor, I'm sticking to the original."
Link to videoGod save our gracious Queen,
Long live our noble Queen,
God save the Queen!
Send her victorious,
Happy and glorious,
Long to reign over us,How could I not? She did it for us:
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@George-K said in She’s gone.:
God save our gracious Queen,
Long live our noble Queen,
God save the Queen!
Send her victorious,
Happy and glorious,
Long to reign over us,The second verse is not often sung, and you might be able to see why....
O Lord our God arise,
Scatter our enemies,
And make them fall!
Confound their politics,
Frustrate their knavish tricks,
On Thee our hopes we fix,
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@George-K said in She’s gone.:
God save our gracious Queen,
Long live our noble Queen,
God save the Queen!
Send her victorious,
Happy and glorious,
Long to reign over us,The second verse is not often sung, and you might be able to see why....
O Lord our God arise,
Scatter our enemies,
And make them fall!
Confound their politics,
Frustrate their knavish tricks,
On Thee our hopes we fix,
God save us all!@Doctor-Phibes said in She’s gone.:
O Lord our God arise,
Scatter our enemies,
And make them fall!
Confound their politics,
Frustrate their knavish tricks,
On Thee our hopes we fix,
God save us all!MEGA!Never mind.
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@89th said in She’s gone.:
politically correct, woke, anti-rich,
We'd better hope pro-rich survives.
@Catseye3 said in She’s gone.:
@89th said in She’s gone.:
politically correct, woke, anti-rich,
We'd better hope pro-rich survives.
Well unfortunately I think there's a false narrative out there that if someone gets rich, another person gets poor. It's not zero sum. That being said, it's not like the monarchy worked for their money the way Bezos, or Musk, or Aqua at the bike shop have.
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@Catseye3 said in She’s gone.:
@89th said in She’s gone.:
politically correct, woke, anti-rich,
We'd better hope pro-rich survives.
Well unfortunately I think there's a false narrative out there that if someone gets rich, another person gets poor. It's not zero sum. That being said, it's not like the monarchy worked for their money the way Bezos, or Musk, or Aqua at the bike shop have.
@89th said in She’s gone.:
@Catseye3 said in She’s gone.:
@89th said in She’s gone.:
politically correct, woke, anti-rich,
We'd better hope pro-rich survives.
Well unfortunately I think there's a false narrative out there that if someone gets rich, another person gets poor. It's not zero sum. That being said, it's not like the monarchy worked for their money the way Bezos, or Musk, or Aqua at the bike shop have.
In terms of social status, it's zero sum. Relative position on the hierarchy is zero sum, unless one can successfully convince two different people that they are both superior to each other. Toys and food and shelter, though, are definitely not zero sum.
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@Catseye3 said in She’s gone.:
@89th said in She’s gone.:
politically correct, woke, anti-rich,
We'd better hope pro-rich survives.
Well unfortunately I think there's a false narrative out there that if someone gets rich, another person gets poor. It's not zero sum. That being said, it's not like the monarchy worked for their money the way Bezos, or Musk, or Aqua at the bike shop have.
@89th said in She’s gone.:
That being said, it's not like the monarchy worked for their money the way Bezos, or Musk, or Aqua at the bike shop have.
You think Bezos and Musk made their money because of how hard they worked?
They're mostly rich for the same reason that Charles is rich - luck. Also, his ancestors were really good at fighting. Mike Tyson's great-grandson will probably be King of America. There's a gazillion people like Bezos and Musk out there who didn't get lucky, but worked just as hard.
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Hard workers are literally a dime a dozen. Maybe not literally but close. They are rich because they had good ideas about how to make money in the free market. Maybe some courage or willingness to take calculated risks. But if you wanted to boil down their success to a single overriding factor, it would be that they are smart within the profitable domains they choose to compete in.
Education is extremely important.
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Smart, brave and lucky. Not necessarily in that order.
Obviously, they wouldn't have made money without the entrepreneurial spirit, but they also wouldn't have made it without the luck of being in the right place at the right time.
If Bill Gates had sold the copyright for DOS to IBM, it's possible that nobody would have heard of him today. In retrospect what he did was a really smart decision, but he was also amazingly lucky.
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Hard workers are literally a dime a dozen. Maybe not literally but close. They are rich because they had good ideas about how to make money in the free market. Maybe some courage or willingness to take calculated risks. But if you wanted to boil down their success to a single overriding factor, it would be that they are smart within the profitable domains they choose to compete in.
@Horace said in She’s gone.:
But if you wanted to boil down their success to a single overriding factor, it would be that they are smart within the profitable domains they choose to compete in.
You could say the same about the British monarchy.
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@Horace said in She’s gone.:
But if you wanted to boil down their success to a single overriding factor, it would be that they are smart within the profitable domains they choose to compete in.
You could say the same about the British monarchy.
@Doctor-Phibes said in She’s gone.:
@Horace said in She’s gone.:
But if you wanted to boil down their success to a single overriding factor, it would be that they are smart within the profitable domains they choose to compete in.
You could say the same about the British monarchy.
I guess if you were unconcerned about making sense, you could say that.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in She’s gone.:
@Horace said in She’s gone.:
But if you wanted to boil down their success to a single overriding factor, it would be that they are smart within the profitable domains they choose to compete in.
You could say the same about the British monarchy.
I guess if you were unconcerned about making sense, you could say that.
@Horace said in She’s gone.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in She’s gone.:
@Horace said in She’s gone.:
But if you wanted to boil down their success to a single overriding factor, it would be that they are smart within the profitable domains they choose to compete in.
You could say the same about the British monarchy.
I guess if you were unconcerned about making sense, you could say that.
The Queen's success was based on her overwhelming popularity. That didn't just happen.
And they're not rich because of the money they get as the monarchy.
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As an aside, what Elizabeth II’s passing sets into motion in Canada:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canada-plan-queen-elizabeth-death-1.6575741
At the local level in Alberta:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/queen-elizabeth-alberta-legislature-1.6576911
I suspect similar protocols and procedures are also initiated in Australia and New Zealand.
Elbows up!
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As an aside, what Elizabeth II’s passing sets into motion in Canada:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canada-plan-queen-elizabeth-death-1.6575741
At the local level in Alberta:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/queen-elizabeth-alberta-legislature-1.6576911
I suspect similar protocols and procedures are also initiated in Australia and New Zealand.
@Renauda said in She’s gone.:
As an aside, what Elizabeth II’s passing sets into motion in Canada:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canada-plan-queen-elizabeth-death-1.6575741Thanks, Renauda. Has the government announced yet what the mourning period will be?
A click from that article takes you to "Charles as King: What kind of monarch will he be?" An excerpt:
"It was a question that haunted the new King for decades: Just what kind of monarch would Charles be?
"It's a tricky question, getting to the fundamental role of the one who wears the crown. To what extent could — or should — that individual share opinions? What about involvement in affairs of state? Or politics?
"That has been a perpetual worry with Charles, whose activism as Prince of Wales in areas as diverse as architecture, organic farming and global warming has been seen by some as ahead of its time, but also left many wondering how he would reign.
"As he turned 70 in 2018, Charles addressed the issue head on, telling the BBC he understood he would have to act differently once he became King.
"I'm not that stupid," he said when asked if his public campaigning would continue after he succeeds his mother. "I do realize that it is a separate exercise being sovereign, so of course I understand entirely how that should operate."
Well, that's good, Your Majesty. It's good to realize things.
I'd say more, but I realize
evenCharles knows more about being a monarch than I do.Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka
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An interesting point about the monarch - in theory they have no power, and they're not allowed to vote. However, for the last 70 years the Queen has met privately with the Prime Minister every week, going back to Churchill. That's a whole lot of experience and influence....
I was only joking
