Trump sues to block Bolton book
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@taiwan_girl said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
@Larry said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
Anyway, getting back to Bolton's book, the Failing BBC is reporting 10 claims...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53089609
Those of you who are triggered by anti-Trump sentiment probably shouldn't click on the link.
I read it. If that's what Boltons book is claiming, then Bolton is going to look like a stone cold fool.
Why?
Because not a word of it is true.
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How about that. Nobody likes a loser. Some things can’t be unseen Bolton. You fvcked your legacy.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/18/everybody-hates-john-bolton-328921
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@jon-nyc said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
@jon-nyc said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
@Loki said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
Suddenly and out of nowhere we are compelled to #believebolton.
Please ignore everything we previously wrote about him.
You can’t make this up.
I never complained about his honesty rather his extreme hawkish to the point of trigger-happy foreign policy views. Trump came around to my view eventually.
But to your question, who do you think is more trustworthy in his assessment of the conversations covered in the book, Trump or Bolton?
Bump for Loki.
Bump again for Loki.
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@jon-nyc said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
@jon-nyc said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
@Loki said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
Suddenly and out of nowhere we are compelled to #believebolton.
Please ignore everything we previously wrote about him.
You can’t make this up.
I never complained about his honesty rather his extreme hawkish to the point of trigger-happy foreign policy views. Trump came around to my view eventually.
But to your question, who do you think is more trustworthy in his assessment of the conversations covered in the book, Trump or Bolton?
Bump for Loki.
Oh Bolton is a spurned lover. I don’t believe he has the capacity to understand things and will seek to interpret everything in a particular way. I’ve seen it too often.
His ego has been shattered to the point where he can’t even see that he is systematically destroying himself. The deconstruction of self is tragic.
Money won’t help and if he ever figures out how he is being used by people he despises, well I wouldn’t want to be there for that.
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I’m a little curious, let’s take this quote from the BBC list:
The US president "stunningly, turned the conversation to the coming US presidential election [in 2020], alluding to China's economic capability and pleading with Xi to ensure he'd win," Mr Bolton writes.
"He stressed the importance of farmers and increased Chinese purchases of soybeans and wheat in the electoral outcome."You think that’s out of character for Trump? I mean, if you saw a taped recording of that, how shocked would you be?
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@jon-nyc said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
I’m a little curious, let’s take this quote from the BBC list:
The US president "stunningly, turned the conversation to the coming US presidential election [in 2020], alluding to China's economic capability and pleading with Xi to ensure he'd win," Mr Bolton writes.
"He stressed the importance of farmers and increased Chinese purchases of soybeans and wheat in the electoral outcome."You think that’s out of character for Trump? I mean, if you saw a taped recording of that, how shocked would you be?
Yeah I would like to see what was actually said. It would be stunning given how much Trump has blamed China for Coronavirus. China should drop the mike on Trump if they had Kompromat. Why not?
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@jon-nyc said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
Don’t forget how much he was praising Xi as recently as late Feb. Bolton’s writing about 2018-19.
Anyway interesting to see where your thoughts are on this.
Trump slammed China worse than Bolton. I guess we will just have to wait for Xi’s book. I mean face saving is so important for the Chinese, Trump is rubbing their nose in do do.
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@jon-nyc said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
@Loki said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
I would never defend Trump to the ends of the earth.
Indeed you normally don’t, which is why I thought it curious you were so quick to call Bolton a liar.
Actually I was taking on Bolton irrespective of Trump. I find his behavior so despicable I want It to be addressed in its own right.
I think Trump lies early and often. I honestly can’t tell if Bolton told a narrative with some truths to exact his revenge in a disingenuous way. Nevertheless I am confident he hurt himself more than Trump.
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@xenon said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
The rationale is always “look at actions, not words”. Bolton’s stuff is all words. Nothing particularly revealing.
The one time when Bolton could have leveraged his words into the most action, i.e. during the impeachment proceedings, he hesitated and missed the window.
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I would have thought that the biggest security concern about Bolton's claims are that, if true, they would indicate that an imbecile is running the country.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
I would have thought that the biggest security concern about Bolton's claims are that, if true, they would indicate that an imbecile is running the country.
The problem with that is that you start off on a false assumption, which causes you to arrive at a conclusion that's 180 out of phase with the truth. Bolton's claims are not true, and Trump is running a country with a lot of embeciles in it.
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@Larry said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
I would have thought that the biggest security concern about Bolton's claims are that, if true, they would indicate that an imbecile is running the country.
The problem with that is that you start off on a false assumption, which causes you to arrive at a conclusion that's 180 out of phase with the truth. Bolton's claims are not true, and Trump is running a country with a lot of embeciles in it.
I didn't start off assuming anything, that's why I wrote 'If true'. Some will say that historically Bolton has been more trustworthy than Trump, some clearly now think otherwise.