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  • HoraceH Online
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    Horace
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    #61

    Much of that alleged black and white thinking is imposed on others unfairly. Many of us have difficulty distinguishing voting for the other side, from agreeing with everything and everybody on that side. Again that comes back to which sides requires more coerced group-think to keep itself coherent, and I think that's the left.

    Education is extremely important.

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
      #62

      Anyway, getting back to Bolton's book, the Failing BBC is reporting 10 claims...

      https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53089609

      Those of you who are triggered by anti-Trump sentiment probably shouldn't click on the link.

      I was only joking

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      • MikM Mik

        I think the Democratic party has some life left in it simply based on the fact that they put Joe Biden up rather than someone far more left. But it keeps moving further leftward all the time.

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        #63

        @Mik said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

        I think the Democratic party has some life left in it simply based on the fact that they put Joe Biden up rather than someone far more left. But it keeps moving further leftward all the time.

        The reason they stood Biden up is because he wants to go down in history as a president, and being aware that he's not capable of it, he will be more than happy to do photo ops and regurgitate what he's told to say and let those running the party make the decisions.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          @Loki said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

          Suddenly and out of nowhere we are compelled to #believebolton.

          Please ignore everything we previously wrote about him.

          You can’t make this up.

          I never complained about his honesty rather his extreme hawkish to the point of trigger-happy foreign policy views. Trump came around to my view eventually.

          But to your question, who do you think is more trustworthy in his assessment of the conversations covered in the book, Trump or Bolton?

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          #64

          @jon-nyc said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

          @Loki said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

          Suddenly and out of nowhere we are compelled to #believebolton.

          Please ignore everything we previously wrote about him.

          You can’t make this up.

          I never complained about his honesty rather his extreme hawkish to the point of trigger-happy foreign policy views. Trump came around to my view eventually.

          But to your question, who do you think is more trustworthy in his assessment of the conversations covered in the book, Trump or Bolton?

          @jon-nyc I agree with you. I never like John Bolton, and did not like his attitude, his policies, and how he handled things. But, I do think he probably is telling most of the truth in what he re-says in teh book.

          Does that not worry anybody that the US president is like this?

          President Trump: UK is a nuclear power??? 🙄
          President Trump: Is Finland part of Russia??? 🙄

          Ouch!!!

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            Anyway, getting back to Bolton's book, the Failing BBC is reporting 10 claims...

            https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53089609

            Those of you who are triggered by anti-Trump sentiment probably shouldn't click on the link.

            LarryL Offline
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            #65

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

            Anyway, getting back to Bolton's book, the Failing BBC is reporting 10 claims...

            https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53089609

            Those of you who are triggered by anti-Trump sentiment probably shouldn't click on the link.

            I read it. If that's what Boltons book is claiming, then Bolton is going to look like a stone cold fool.

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            • LarryL Larry

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

              Anyway, getting back to Bolton's book, the Failing BBC is reporting 10 claims...

              https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53089609

              Those of you who are triggered by anti-Trump sentiment probably shouldn't click on the link.

              I read it. If that's what Boltons book is claiming, then Bolton is going to look like a stone cold fool.

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              @Larry said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

              Anyway, getting back to Bolton's book, the Failing BBC is reporting 10 claims...

              https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53089609

              Those of you who are triggered by anti-Trump sentiment probably shouldn't click on the link.

              I read it. If that's what Boltons book is claiming, then Bolton is going to look like a stone cold fool.

              Why?

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              • LarryL Larry

                @Mik said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                I think the Democratic party has some life left in it simply based on the fact that they put Joe Biden up rather than someone far more left. But it keeps moving further leftward all the time.

                The reason they stood Biden up is because he wants to go down in history as a president, and being aware that he's not capable of it, he will be more than happy to do photo ops and regurgitate what he's told to say and let those running the party make the decisions.

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                #67

                @Larry said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                @Mik said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                I think the Democratic party has some life left in it simply based on the fact that they put Joe Biden up rather than someone far more left. But it keeps moving further leftward all the time.

                The reason they stood Biden up is because he wants to go down in history as a president, and being aware that he's not capable of it, he will be more than happy to do photo ops and regurgitate what he's told to say and let those running the party make the decisions.

                Pay very close attention to who Biden picks as his running mate. If Biden is elected, the VP will become the first unelected President since Ford.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  @Larry said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                  Anyway, getting back to Bolton's book, the Failing BBC is reporting 10 claims...

                  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53089609

                  Those of you who are triggered by anti-Trump sentiment probably shouldn't click on the link.

                  I read it. If that's what Boltons book is claiming, then Bolton is going to look like a stone cold fool.

                  Why?

                  LarryL Offline
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                  #68

                  @taiwan_girl said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                  @Larry said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                  Anyway, getting back to Bolton's book, the Failing BBC is reporting 10 claims...

                  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53089609

                  Those of you who are triggered by anti-Trump sentiment probably shouldn't click on the link.

                  I read it. If that's what Boltons book is claiming, then Bolton is going to look like a stone cold fool.

                  Why?

                  Because not a word of it is true.

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                    I wonder if Lin Manuel Miranda will sue Bolton for the title. It is very clearly playing off the song from Hamilton 'The Room Where it Happens', but the lyric is the room where it happened.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      How about that. Nobody likes a loser. Some things can’t be unseen Bolton. You fvcked your legacy.

                      https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/18/everybody-hates-john-bolton-328921

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @jon-nyc said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                        @Loki said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                        Suddenly and out of nowhere we are compelled to #believebolton.

                        Please ignore everything we previously wrote about him.

                        You can’t make this up.

                        I never complained about his honesty rather his extreme hawkish to the point of trigger-happy foreign policy views. Trump came around to my view eventually.

                        But to your question, who do you think is more trustworthy in his assessment of the conversations covered in the book, Trump or Bolton?

                        Bump for Loki.

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                        jon-nyc
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                        #71

                        @jon-nyc said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                        @jon-nyc said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                        @Loki said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                        Suddenly and out of nowhere we are compelled to #believebolton.

                        Please ignore everything we previously wrote about him.

                        You can’t make this up.

                        I never complained about his honesty rather his extreme hawkish to the point of trigger-happy foreign policy views. Trump came around to my view eventually.

                        But to your question, who do you think is more trustworthy in his assessment of the conversations covered in the book, Trump or Bolton?

                        Bump for Loki.

                        Bump again for Loki.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @jon-nyc said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                          @Loki said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                          Suddenly and out of nowhere we are compelled to #believebolton.

                          Please ignore everything we previously wrote about him.

                          You can’t make this up.

                          I never complained about his honesty rather his extreme hawkish to the point of trigger-happy foreign policy views. Trump came around to my view eventually.

                          But to your question, who do you think is more trustworthy in his assessment of the conversations covered in the book, Trump or Bolton?

                          Bump for Loki.

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                          Loki
                          wrote on last edited by Loki
                          #72

                          @jon-nyc said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                          @jon-nyc said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                          @Loki said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                          Suddenly and out of nowhere we are compelled to #believebolton.

                          Please ignore everything we previously wrote about him.

                          You can’t make this up.

                          I never complained about his honesty rather his extreme hawkish to the point of trigger-happy foreign policy views. Trump came around to my view eventually.

                          But to your question, who do you think is more trustworthy in his assessment of the conversations covered in the book, Trump or Bolton?

                          Bump for Loki.

                          Oh Bolton is a spurned lover. I don’t believe he has the capacity to understand things and will seek to interpret everything in a particular way. I’ve seen it too often.

                          His ego has been shattered to the point where he can’t even see that he is systematically destroying himself. The deconstruction of self is tragic.

                          Money won’t help and if he ever figures out how he is being used by people he despises, well I wouldn’t want to be there for that.

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                            jon-nyc
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                            #73

                            You you think Trumps blanket denials are more accurate than Bolton’s reported recollections?

                            Just trying to see where you’re drawing the line in the sand is all.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • jon-nycJ Online
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                              jon-nyc
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                              I’m a little curious, let’s take this quote from the BBC list:

                              The US president "stunningly, turned the conversation to the coming US presidential election [in 2020], alluding to China's economic capability and pleading with Xi to ensure he'd win," Mr Bolton writes.
                              "He stressed the importance of farmers and increased Chinese purchases of soybeans and wheat in the electoral outcome."

                              You think that’s out of character for Trump? I mean, if you saw a taped recording of that, how shocked would you be?

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                I’m a little curious, let’s take this quote from the BBC list:

                                The US president "stunningly, turned the conversation to the coming US presidential election [in 2020], alluding to China's economic capability and pleading with Xi to ensure he'd win," Mr Bolton writes.
                                "He stressed the importance of farmers and increased Chinese purchases of soybeans and wheat in the electoral outcome."

                                You think that’s out of character for Trump? I mean, if you saw a taped recording of that, how shocked would you be?

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                                Loki
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                                @jon-nyc said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                                I’m a little curious, let’s take this quote from the BBC list:

                                The US president "stunningly, turned the conversation to the coming US presidential election [in 2020], alluding to China's economic capability and pleading with Xi to ensure he'd win," Mr Bolton writes.
                                "He stressed the importance of farmers and increased Chinese purchases of soybeans and wheat in the electoral outcome."

                                You think that’s out of character for Trump? I mean, if you saw a taped recording of that, how shocked would you be?

                                Yeah I would like to see what was actually said. It would be stunning given how much Trump has blamed China for Coronavirus. China should drop the mike on Trump if they had Kompromat. Why not?

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #76

                                  Don’t forget how much he was praising Xi as recently as late Feb. Bolton’s writing about 2018-19.

                                  Anyway interesting to see where your thoughts are on this.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    Don’t forget how much he was praising Xi as recently as late Feb. Bolton’s writing about 2018-19.

                                    Anyway interesting to see where your thoughts are on this.

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                                    #77

                                    @jon-nyc said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                                    Don’t forget how much he was praising Xi as recently as late Feb. Bolton’s writing about 2018-19.

                                    Anyway interesting to see where your thoughts are on this.

                                    Trump slammed China worse than Bolton. I guess we will just have to wait for Xi’s book. I mean face saving is so important for the Chinese, Trump is rubbing their nose in do do.

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                                      Don’t forget how much he was praising Xi as recently as late Feb. Bolton’s writing about 2018-19.

                                      Anyway interesting to see where your thoughts are on this.

                                      Trump slammed China worse than Bolton. I guess we will just have to wait for Xi’s book. I mean face saving is so important for the Chinese, Trump is rubbing their nose in do do.

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                                      Loki
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                                      #78

                                      Jon explain why China is taking it from Trump and not validating Bolton’s comments. Putin too with all his Kompromat. I want to hear the argument. Take it on. I would never defend Trump to the ends of the earth.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #79

                                        Why would China have any interest in commenting on a book like this?

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          Jon explain why China is taking it from Trump and not validating Bolton’s comments. Putin too with all his Kompromat. I want to hear the argument. Take it on. I would never defend Trump to the ends of the earth.

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          #80

                                          @Loki said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                                          I would never defend Trump to the ends of the earth.

                                          Indeed you normally don’t, which is why I thought it curious you were so quick to call Bolton a liar.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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