Preserving options to have children later in life
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All the objections you raise apply to eggs that are fertilized when they're the same age as the mother. Eggs that are frozen to be used years later may not carry with them the same complications, (or the mother's older body either) -- or they may carry entirely different ones and the study would need to be discontinued. As Ax pointed out, much more study needs to be done. But it is certainly worth that study, worth further examination without being dismissed out of hand.
Having the capacity to have children later in life would make good sense for many women.
@Catseye3 said in Preserving options to have children later in life:
All the objections you raise apply to eggs that are fertilized when they're the same age as the mother. Eggs that are frozen to be used years later may not carry with them the same complications, (or the mother's older body either) -- or they may carry entirely different ones and the practice would need to be given up. As Ax pointed out, much more study needs to be done. But it is certainly worth that study, worth further examination without being dismissed out of hand.
Having the capacity to have children later in life would make good sense for many women.
The diabetes issues and the premature birth issues are entirely dependent on the mother's age at the time she is carrying the child. Younger eggs don't make a younger uterus...And the mother developing diabetes is dependent on her older metabolism dealing with having the child pull nutrients and sustenance.
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Also, let's talk grandparents...One of the biggest regrets in my life is that my sons never knew their grandmothers. Both my mother and Karla's mother passed away before Lucas was born.
If Lucas starts his family when he's 30, then I will be 60-61 years old. That's a good age for a grandpa. If Finley starts his family at 30 then I will be 80... Not so great an age to be a grampa of a little one...
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I also think it's not a good idea to defer children even more than what's already happening today.
At some point the age difference between parent and kid, let alone grandparents and kid, gets too big. Old parents worry way too much, tend to be overprotective and are easily stressed out. They can't relate to the world of the child very well.
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I'm going to write this without much thought to flow or how it reads.
- I think it's a good idea, but you can't have a younger uterus.
- Some people choose to wait; some try for years and don't conceive until their mid-thirties.
- Some women have lots of miscarriages, or ectopics, or...
- These losses can happen at any age, depending on so many factors.
- Sorry, not sorry to hopeful parents waiting for grandchildren: you're not owed a grandchild.
- My parents had me at 38 (I was a surprise
) and were first-time grandparents at 71ish, when my nephew was born. IF I have grandchildren, I might be about the same age, and that's fine. That's up to my child(ren) and not my call. - Interesting point about older dads, LD. (it's been a while since I've been here...are you still called that? Or LFD?) My husband and I both chuckle as we struggle to get off the floor after tummy time. We're in for a treat when this kid can run around.
- God doesn't have anything to do with it.
- So, yes, freezing eggs with new tech to have children at an older age is a great option for some people, but nothing is guaranteed either way. Pregnancy is just too complicated and crazy for us to decide this is a good idea or not for anyone but ourselves.
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I also think it's not a good idea to defer children even more than what's already happening today.
At some point the age difference between parent and kid, let alone grandparents and kid, gets too big. Old parents worry way too much, tend to be overprotective and are easily stressed out. They can't relate to the world of the child very well.
@Klaus said in Preserving options to have children later in life:
I also think it's not a good idea to defer children even more than what's already happening today.
At some point the age difference between parent and kid, let alone grandparents and kid, gets too big. Old parents worry way too much, tend to be overprotective and are easily stressed out. They can't relate to the world of the child very well.
Totally disagree. I think the physical disadvantages factor in, but we had our daughter when I was almost 38 and she was 36. We were more financially secure than younger parents, professionally established and I would say we were less protective. I had no problem relating to her as a child.
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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@Klaus said in Preserving options to have children later in life:
I also think it's not a good idea to defer children even more than what's already happening today.
At some point the age difference between parent and kid, let alone grandparents and kid, gets too big. Old parents worry way too much, tend to be overprotective and are easily stressed out. They can't relate to the world of the child very well.
Totally disagree. I think the physical disadvantages factor in, but we had our daughter when I was almost 38 and she was 36. We were more financially secure than younger parents, professionally established and I would say we were less protective. I had no problem relating to her as a child.
@Mik said in Preserving options to have children later in life:
@Klaus said in Preserving options to have children later in life:
I also think it's not a good idea to defer children even more than what's already happening today.
At some point the age difference between parent and kid, let alone grandparents and kid, gets too big. Old parents worry way too much, tend to be overprotective and are easily stressed out. They can't relate to the world of the child very well.
Totally disagree. I think the physical disadvantages factor in, but we had our daughter when I was almost 38 and she was 36. We were more financially secure than younger parents, professionally established and I would say we were less protective. I had no problem relating to her as a child.
I don't find that to be particularly old...
The Brad
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@Klaus said in Preserving options to have children later in life:
I also think it's not a good idea to defer children even more than what's already happening today.
At some point the age difference between parent and kid, let alone grandparents and kid, gets too big. Old parents worry way too much, tend to be overprotective and are easily stressed out. They can't relate to the world of the child very well.
Totally disagree. I think the physical disadvantages factor in, but we had our daughter when I was almost 38 and she was 36. We were more financially secure than younger parents, professionally established and I would say we were less protective. I had no problem relating to her as a child.
@Mik agreed to everything you said. I'm 36, he's 33. I feel like "sure, you wanna hold my kid? Here ya go." I've felt that way since day one, though I was told I'd likely be overprotective. Pppssshhhh. Wrong. Even though we'd been trying a few years, we didn't even start trying until we were both financially and professionally established. It's the choice that best suits us. Everyone should be able to choose what best suits them when it comes to having children. Happy, secure parents will likely raise happy, secure children.
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@Mik said in Preserving options to have children later in life:
@Klaus said in Preserving options to have children later in life:
I also think it's not a good idea to defer children even more than what's already happening today.
At some point the age difference between parent and kid, let alone grandparents and kid, gets too big. Old parents worry way too much, tend to be overprotective and are easily stressed out. They can't relate to the world of the child very well.
Totally disagree. I think the physical disadvantages factor in, but we had our daughter when I was almost 38 and she was 36. We were more financially secure than younger parents, professionally established and I would say we were less protective. I had no problem relating to her as a child.
I don't find that to be particularly old...
@LuFins-Dad said in Preserving options to have children later in life:
@Mik said in Preserving options to have children later in life:
@Klaus said in Preserving options to have children later in life:
I also think it's not a good idea to defer children even more than what's already happening today.
At some point the age difference between parent and kid, let alone grandparents and kid, gets too big. Old parents worry way too much, tend to be overprotective and are easily stressed out. They can't relate to the world of the child very well.
Totally disagree. I think the physical disadvantages factor in, but we had our daughter when I was almost 38 and she was 36. We were more financially secure than younger parents, professionally established and I would say we were less protective. I had no problem relating to her as a child.
I don't find that to be particularly old...
At your age, you wouldn't...
Swing, batter, batter! Swing!...Hard to lay off of the hanging curve ball...
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@Mik said in Preserving options to have children later in life:
@Klaus said in Preserving options to have children later in life:
I also think it's not a good idea to defer children even more than what's already happening today.
At some point the age difference between parent and kid, let alone grandparents and kid, gets too big. Old parents worry way too much, tend to be overprotective and are easily stressed out. They can't relate to the world of the child very well.
Totally disagree. I think the physical disadvantages factor in, but we had our daughter when I was almost 38 and she was 36. We were more financially secure than younger parents, professionally established and I would say we were less protective. I had no problem relating to her as a child.
I don't find that to be particularly old...
@LuFins-Dad said in Preserving options to have children later in life:
@Mik said in Preserving options to have children later in life:
@Klaus said in Preserving options to have children later in life:
I also think it's not a good idea to defer children even more than what's already happening today.
At some point the age difference between parent and kid, let alone grandparents and kid, gets too big. Old parents worry way too much, tend to be overprotective and are easily stressed out. They can't relate to the world of the child very well.
Totally disagree. I think the physical disadvantages factor in, but we had our daughter when I was almost 38 and she was 36. We were more financially secure than younger parents, professionally established and I would say we were less protective. I had no problem relating to her as a child.
I don't find that to be particularly old...
As an outlier, you wouldn’t.
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There's no freaking way I was mature enough to have kids in my 20's. I'm more than a tad borderline in my 50's.
God wants us to start having them at about 14, but looked what happened to his kid. He was no freaking end of trouble, most likely due to his absentee father.
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Ideally, I think 28-40 is a good range to have kids, but any age is wonderful! Except 10…
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@Jolly said in Preserving options to have children later in life:
Oh, horseshit.
Talk to somebody who has had children in their 40's and get back to me...
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@LuFins-Dad said in Preserving options to have children later in life:
@Jolly said in Preserving options to have children later in life:
Oh, horseshit.
Talk to somebody who has had children in their 40's and get back to me...
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D1 was born when we were 32. D4 when we were 38.
G2 is going to be 4 in a bit, and I'm 72. Too old.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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I also think it's not a good idea to defer children even more than what's already happening today.
At some point the age difference between parent and kid, let alone grandparents and kid, gets too big. Old parents worry way too much, tend to be overprotective and are easily stressed out. They can't relate to the world of the child very well.
@Klaus said in Preserving options to have children later in life:
I also think it's not a good idea to defer children even more than what's already happening today.
At some point the age difference between parent and kid, let alone grandparents and kid, gets too big. Old parents worry way too much, tend to be overprotective and are easily stressed out. They can't relate to the world of the child very well.
I relate to my daughter a shitload better than I do my co-workers, friends and neighbors combined. You are just plain wrong about this.
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@Klaus said in Preserving options to have children later in life:
I also think it's not a good idea to defer children even more than what's already happening today.
At some point the age difference between parent and kid, let alone grandparents and kid, gets too big. Old parents worry way too much, tend to be overprotective and are easily stressed out. They can't relate to the world of the child very well.
I relate to my daughter a shitload better than I do my co-workers, friends and neighbors combined. You are just plain wrong about this.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Preserving options to have children later in life:
@Klaus said in Preserving options to have children later in life:
I also think it's not a good idea to defer children even more than what's already happening today.
At some point the age difference between parent and kid, let alone grandparents and kid, gets too big. Old parents worry way too much, tend to be overprotective and are easily stressed out. They can't relate to the world of the child very well.
I relate to my daughter a shitload better than I do my co-workers, friends and neighbors combined. You are just plain wrong about this.
I’m talking statistically, not about particular examples.
Just look at cultures where families are still the central unit of everything. These people get their kids early, and it wouldn’t work any other way.
Financial security etc. are overrated. Overprotection, too much safety, too much planning and too much money are harmful, not helpful. Grandparents in their 40s or 50s are an asset. Kids profit from some level of chaos and uncertainty.
Just ask any gynecologist about old parents. You’ll hear the word “complicated’ a lot.
If I could do this all over again, I’d have started with kids 5 years earlier.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Preserving options to have children later in life:
@Klaus said in Preserving options to have children later in life:
I also think it's not a good idea to defer children even more than what's already happening today.
At some point the age difference between parent and kid, let alone grandparents and kid, gets too big. Old parents worry way too much, tend to be overprotective and are easily stressed out. They can't relate to the world of the child very well.
I relate to my daughter a shitload better than I do my co-workers, friends and neighbors combined. You are just plain wrong about this.
I’m talking statistically, not about particular examples.
Just look at cultures where families are still the central unit of everything. These people get their kids early, and it wouldn’t work any other way.
Financial security etc. are overrated. Overprotection, too much safety, too much planning and too much money are harmful, not helpful. Grandparents in their 40s or 50s are an asset. Kids profit from some level of chaos and uncertainty.
Just ask any gynecologist about old parents. You’ll hear the word “complicated’ a lot.
If I could do this all over again, I’d have started with kids 5 years earlier.
