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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    @George-K said in Tipping Question…:

    We don't tip at Taco Bell, do we?

    Which is tad ironic, considering what you're probably eating there.

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    @Doctor-Phibes said in Tipping Question…:

    @George-K said in Tipping Question…:

    We don't tip at Taco Bell, do we?

    Which is tad ironic, considering what you're probably eating there.

    Just for the sake of full disclosure, it's been more than 10 years since I ate at Taco Bell. Probably more than 15, when I was young and naive.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      Isn't the point of tipping to allow the people who work in the place to get a reasonable wage rather than to reward wonderful service?

      If they're getting paid next to nothing, then not tipping is giving them the shaft, or at least allowing their employer to do so.

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      @Doctor-Phibes said in Tipping Question…:

      Isn't the point of tipping to allow the people who work in the place to get a reasonable wage rather than to reward wonderful service?

      I don't agree with this. I don't love that waitstaff make lousy wages, but that is also not my fault or my responsibility to fix. As a lifelong tipper, I am pleased to tip generously when s/he has given me good service, and have no problem leaving a chintzy tip to Ms/Mr. Attitude.

      (I never stiff waitstaff. You don't know what troubles are burdening them that evening or whether they're working their second shift and their back/feet are killing them, or whatever. They haven't earned a good tip, but I'd rather not leave them nothing at all.)

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        Axtremus
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        Try this:

        1. Make it known to the manager/owner that you object to being asked to tip without commensurate service.
        2. Vote with your feet and don’t go back to that establishment if you are not satisfied with the owner/manager’s response.
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        • George KG George K

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Tipping Question…:

          @George-K said in Tipping Question…:

          We don't tip at Taco Bell, do we?

          Which is tad ironic, considering what you're probably eating there.

          Just for the sake of full disclosure, it's been more than 10 years since I ate at Taco Bell. Probably more than 15, when I was young and naive.

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          Doctor Phibes
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          #16

          @George-K said in Tipping Question…:

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Tipping Question…:

          @George-K said in Tipping Question…:

          We don't tip at Taco Bell, do we?

          Which is tad ironic, considering what you're probably eating there.

          Just for the sake of full disclosure, it's been more than 10 years since I ate at Taco Bell. Probably more than 15, when I was young and naive.

          A restaurant unique in that it’s the customers that get the tip. And the rest of it if you’re really lucky.

          I was only joking

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            I know we have discussed before, but I wish the US (and the places) would get rid of tipping. Not only in restaurants, but in the US, there seems to be a trend to tip in multiple places - hair cut place, piano tuners (I remember discussing this before), etc. Seems like a lot of service industry places now it is acceptable or even expected to tip.

            And I am a believer that tipping does not really change the attitude or service of the person.

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              Isn't the point of tipping to allow the people who work in the place to get a reasonable wage rather than to reward wonderful service?

              If they're getting paid next to nothing, then not tipping is giving them the shaft, or at least allowing their employer to do so.

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              @Doctor-Phibes said in Tipping Question…:

              Isn't the point of tipping to allow the people who work in the place to get a reasonable wage rather than to reward wonderful service?

              Pre pandemic? No.

              During pandemic? Yes.

              Post pandemic? Yes and no.

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                Doctor Phibes
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                @89th said in Tipping Question…:

                Pre pandemic? No.
                During pandemic? Yes.
                Post pandemic? Yes and no.

                You should have seen the tip I gave the guy who brought the booze round to the house mid-2020.

                I was only joking

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                  I just ordered online from a chinese fast food place, for pickup, and their system makes you jump through some hoops to not tip. They offer you four tip choices, starting at 15%, through 25%, and a 'custom' button, where you have to enter 0, if you want not to tip. There is no bypassing that piece of the order process. I thought that was pretty aggressive for a pickup order.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    I just ordered online from a chinese fast food place, for pickup, and their system makes you jump through some hoops to not tip. They offer you four tip choices, starting at 15%, through 25%, and a 'custom' button, where you have to enter 0, if you want not to tip. There is no bypassing that piece of the order process. I thought that was pretty aggressive for a pickup order.

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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    @Horace said in Tipping Question…:

                    I just ordered online from a chinese fast food place, for pickup, and their system makes you jump through some hoops to not tip. They offer you four tip choices, starting at 15%, through 25%, and a 'custom' button, where you have to enter 0, if you want not to tip. There is no bypassing that piece of the order process. I thought that was pretty aggressive for a pickup order.

                    There seems to be more and more of this happening. My daughter just started a job at a fast food place, and they're paying her less than other jobs were offering based on tips she's been told to expect. We shall see.

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @Horace said in Tipping Question…:

                      I just ordered online from a chinese fast food place, for pickup, and their system makes you jump through some hoops to not tip. They offer you four tip choices, starting at 15%, through 25%, and a 'custom' button, where you have to enter 0, if you want not to tip. There is no bypassing that piece of the order process. I thought that was pretty aggressive for a pickup order.

                      There seems to be more and more of this happening. My daughter just started a job at a fast food place, and they're paying her less than other jobs were offering based on tips she's been told to expect. We shall see.

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                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Tipping Question…:
                      That's standard. When I worked in restaurants, my hourly was $1.80 an hour. I made a relative assload in tips. (Also, this was the 90s, so most of it was cash. Which, nice.)

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Tipping Question…:
                        That's standard. When I worked in restaurants, my hourly was $1.80 an hour. I made a relative assload in tips. (Also, this was the 90s, so most of it was cash. Which, nice.)

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                        jon-nyc
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                        @Aqua-Letifer

                        Right, but you worked at a place where tips were expected and largely given. His daughter is working at a fast food joint. Probably lots of people paging through various screens looking for the zero.

                        You were warned.

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @Aqua-Letifer

                          Right, but you worked at a place where tips were expected and largely given. His daughter is working at a fast food joint. Probably lots of people paging through various screens looking for the zero.

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                          @jon-nyc said in Tipping Question…:

                          @Aqua-Letifer

                          Right, but you worked at a place where tips were expected and largely given. His daughter is working at a fast food joint. Probably lots of people paging through various screens looking for the zero.

                          Yeah I know, I'm just saying that FOH positions typically pay well beneath minimum wage, and this kind of flimsy bullshit is nothing new. Before Square paystations, the tip jar was used to get away with it.

                          I will say, though, that tablet paystation ≠ shitty tips all the time. At my local coffee shop, they have that setup but tipping is the norm. But I think it has to do with how they run their business:

                          There are 2-3 people behind the counter. When someone takes your order, that's your person. They make your order, talk to you while doing so, ring you up at the end once you're done. So it's not exactly McDonald's.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @jon-nyc said in Tipping Question…:

                            @Aqua-Letifer

                            Right, but you worked at a place where tips were expected and largely given. His daughter is working at a fast food joint. Probably lots of people paging through various screens looking for the zero.

                            Yeah I know, I'm just saying that FOH positions typically pay well beneath minimum wage, and this kind of flimsy bullshit is nothing new. Before Square paystations, the tip jar was used to get away with it.

                            I will say, though, that tablet paystation ≠ shitty tips all the time. At my local coffee shop, they have that setup but tipping is the norm. But I think it has to do with how they run their business:

                            There are 2-3 people behind the counter. When someone takes your order, that's your person. They make your order, talk to you while doing so, ring you up at the end once you're done. So it's not exactly McDonald's.

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                            jon-nyc
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                            @Aqua-Letifer

                            My first job was at the now-defunct Kinney Shoes. I made $3.15 and hour when the minimum wage was $3.35, since I got a 1% commission on sales.

                            You were warned.

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                              LuFins Dad
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                              And thus a foot fetish was born…

                              The Brad

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                And thus a foot fetish was born…

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                                @LuFins-Dad is soleless

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  @LuFins-Dad is soleless

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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  @Mik said in Tipping Question…:

                                  @LuFins-Dad is soleless

                                  Nah, it’s just that Jon is my archenemy…

                                  The Brad

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    @Mik said in Tipping Question…:

                                    @LuFins-Dad is soleless

                                    Nah, it’s just that Jon is my archenemy…

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                                    Doctor Phibes
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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Tipping Question…:

                                    @Mik said in Tipping Question…:

                                    @LuFins-Dad is soleless

                                    Nah, it’s just that Jon is my archenemy…

                                    You’re a heel

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Tipping Question…:

                                      @Mik said in Tipping Question…:

                                      @LuFins-Dad is soleless

                                      Nah, it’s just that Jon is my archenemy…

                                      You’re a heel

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                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Tipping Question…:

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Tipping Question…:

                                      @Mik said in Tipping Question…:

                                      @LuFins-Dad is soleless

                                      Nah, it’s just that Jon is my archenemy…

                                      You’re a heel

                                      I’d stick my tongue out at you, but you’re too straight-laced to appreciate it.

                                      The Brad

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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Tipping Question…:

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Tipping Question…:

                                        @Mik said in Tipping Question…:

                                        @LuFins-Dad is soleless

                                        Nah, it’s just that Jon is my archenemy…

                                        You’re a heel

                                        I’d stick my tongue out at you, but you’re too straight-laced to appreciate it.

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                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        #31

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Tipping Question…:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Tipping Question…:

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Tipping Question…:

                                        @Mik said in Tipping Question…:

                                        @LuFins-Dad is soleless

                                        Nah, it’s just that Jon is my archenemy…

                                        You’re a heel

                                        I’d stick my tongue out at you, but you’re too strait-laced to appreciate it.

                                        Toe-cap it all, your puns are awful

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Tipping Question…:

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Tipping Question…:

                                          @Mik said in Tipping Question…:

                                          @LuFins-Dad is soleless

                                          Nah, it’s just that Jon is my archenemy…

                                          You’re a heel

                                          I’d stick my tongue out at you, but you’re too straight-laced to appreciate it.

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                                          George K
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                                          #32

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Tipping Question…:

                                          I’d stick my tongue out at you, but you’re too straight-laced to appreciate it.

                                          I was going to comment, but thought it would be better if eyelet it go.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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