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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by
    #738

    True, a mouse would need ideological blinders to not notice the difference between working with the National Archives vs working against them and repeatedly lying about it.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #739

      Take off your laser vision glasses and consider the situation in toto. There has never been anything remotely like the full court press on Trump in the last 100 years. There may never have been anything like it since the beginning of the Republic.

      One cannot look at anything waged against Trump by the Deep State, especially the Justice Department and FBI, and not consider political motivations. Their behavior in the past has been criminal, IMO.

      Therefore, take any allegation lodged against Trump with a tablespoon full of salt.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        xenon
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        #740

        I guess “consider the context” is the only viable argument in support of Trump on this one.

        “Consider the facts” doesn’t help.

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #741

          Great way of putting it, @xenon

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by Jolly
            #742

            Doesn't matter... Xenon busted his Trump-Hater Cherry a long time ago.

            One has to back up and look at things with a historical view. And then not let pure hate get in the way.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Doesn't matter... Xenon busted his Trump-Hater Cherry a long time ago.

              One has to back up and look at things with a historical view. And then not let pure hate get in the way.

              jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nyc
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              #743

              @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

              Doesn't matter... Xenon busted his Trump-Hater Cherry a long time ago.

              Didn't you just accuse Phibes of this?

              Address his post, why don't you?

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                Doesn't matter... Xenon busted his Trump-Hater Cherry a long time ago.

                Didn't you just accuse Phibes of this?

                Address his post, why don't you?

                JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #744

                @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                Doesn't matter... Xenon busted his Trump-Hater Cherry a long time ago.

                Didn't you just accuse Phibes of this?

                Address his post, why don't you?

                Which Phibes post? I've accused the lad of a lot of things, from messenger shooting to fucking sheep.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • jon-nycJ Online
                  jon-nycJ Online
                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                  #745

                  Bye bye, Special Master. We hardly knew ya!

                  https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-appeals-court-reverses-appointment-special-master-trump-documents-probe-2022-12-01/

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Bye bye, Special Master. We hardly knew ya!

                    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-appeals-court-reverses-appointment-special-master-trump-documents-probe-2022-12-01/

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                    Axtremus
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                    #746

                    @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                    Bye bye, Special Master. We hardly knew ya!

                    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-appeals-court-reverses-appointment-special-master-trump-documents-probe-2022-12-01/

                    Not surprising. Most observers were of the opinion that Cannon erred in the first place in appointing a Special Master.

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                      #747

                      https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-says-he-would-take-classified-docs-sean-hannity-fox-2023-3

                      Sean Hannity told Trump he couldn't imagine Trump taking documents from the White House.
                      "I know you," Hannity said. "I don't think you would do it."
                      Trump corrected Hannity, saying, "I would do that" and adding that he has the right to "take stuff."

                      Video in tweet:

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
                        jon-nycJ Online
                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #748

                        Imagine being a defense lawyer for a guy who regularly confesses to his crimes publicly.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Imagine being a defense lawyer for a guy who regularly confesses to his crimes publicly.

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                          Catseye3
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                          #749

                          @jon-nyc

                          Reminds me of the meme of a woman defendant, she's asked by the judge, "Was the gun loaded?" And she says, "Yes", and her lawyer is standing behind her clutching his head and wearing a silent scream.

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            Imagine being a defense lawyer for a guy who regularly confesses to his crimes publicly.

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            #750

                            @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                            Imagine being a defense lawyer for a guy who regularly confesses to his crimes publicly.

                            Imagine being Sean Hannity. He sticks his tongue right up there, only to be inundated once again with gallons of the substance he so richly deserves.

                            I was only joking

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                              Imagine being a defense lawyer for a guy who regularly confesses to his crimes publicly.

                              Imagine being Sean Hannity. He sticks his tongue right up there, only to be inundated once again with gallons of the substance he so richly deserves.

                              jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #751

                              @Doctor-Phibes

                              Worst. Visual. Ever.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #752

                                Biden had no advance notice on Mar-a-Lago search, White House says

                                The White House was not briefed or given advance notice about the FBI’s search of Mar-a-Lago, the Florida home of former President Donald Trump, press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre told reporters on Tuesday.

                                “The president was not briefed, was not aware of it, no. No one at the White House was given a heads-up,” Jean-Pierre said.

                                Biden learned about the Monday search through public reports, the press secretary said. “We learned about this just like the American people did,” she said.

                                Jean-Pierre reiterated the Justice Department’s independence from the president in the investigation, and declined to comment on it further. She also highlighted the president’s previous comments on his commitment to the “rule of law.”

                                Biden administration officials were involved in Mar-a-Lago raid despite claiming otherwise: report

                                The Biden administration involved itself in the raid of former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago home despite reports that its officials were "stunned" to find out about the news on social media, according to the group America First Legal, which obtained internal government documents related to the raid through a Freedom of Information Act request.

                                "The evidence further suggests that Biden officials in the Executive Office of the President and the Department of Justice unlawfully abused their power and then lied about it to the American people," said Reed D. Rubinstein, America First Legal senior counselor and director of oversight and investigations, in a post on social media Tuesday. "This government, it seems, acknowledges no limits on its power to harass, intimidate, and silence its political opponents."

                                Rubinstein's comments come after a Freedom of Information Act request by America First Legal found the FBI initially obtained access to Trump records through a "special access request" from the Biden White House.

                                The new information confirms Fox News reporting from August, when NARA acting head Debra Wall wrote a letter to Trump's attorney alluding to the administration's involvement.

                                Records show that John Laster, "the Archives’ official responsible for administering all access requests for Presidential records," was involved in the request despite the Archives’ previously claiming it had "not been involved in the DOJ investigation."

                                "On October 25, 2022, Acting Archivist Wall wrote to then-Ranking Members James Comer and Jim Jordan, claiming ‘NARA received the 15 boxes from President Trump on January 18, 2022, and then discovered that they contained classified national security information. Shortly after the discovery, NARA consulted with its Office of Inspector General (OIG), which operates independently of NARA. As DOJ has disclosed publicly in court filings, NARA’s OIG subsequently referred the matter to DOJ on February 9, 2022,’"

                                America First Legal wrote.

                                "If the OIG acted independently in making a referral to the FBI, then Mr. Laster would not have involved himself in the FBI’s review of the 15 boxes in his capacity as the Director of the White House Liaison Division ‘responsible for all access requests for Presidential records.’"

                                According to America First Legal, the special access statute "authorizes special access requests to an incumbent president only when the records in question are needed for ‘the conduct of current business’ of the White House."

                                "Providing documents to the DOJ for purposes of a criminal investigation is not the ‘current business’ of the White House," the organization said.

                                The August letter from Wall to Trump attorney Evan Corcoran also seemingly hinted at President Biden's involvement.

                                "NARA informed the Department of Justice about that discovery, which prompted the Department to ask the President to request that NARA provide the FBI with access to the boxes at issue so that the FBI and others in the Intelligence Community could examine them," Wall wrote. "The Counsel to the President has informed me that, in light of the particular circumstances presented here, President Biden defers to my determination, in consultation with the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel, regarding whether or not I should uphold the former President’s purported ‘protective assertion of executive privilege."

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  #753

                                  From @George-K”s post above:

                                  … the FBI initially obtained access to Trump records through a "special access request" from the Biden White House.

                                  That’s it?
                                  Does it mean anything?

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                                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                    From @George-K”s post above:

                                    … the FBI initially obtained access to Trump records through a "special access request" from the Biden White House.

                                    That’s it?
                                    Does it mean anything?

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #754

                                    @Axtremus said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                    Does it mean anything?

                                    Yeah.

                                    1. Biden lied (again).
                                    2. The White House was involved.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #755

                                      Another tidbit. Tradition (policy?) at FBI is not to conduct politically-sensitive raids/investigations less than 90 days before a national election.

                                      Time between Mar-a-Lago raid and election day 2022?

                                      91 days.

                                      I'm sure it was a coincidence.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        Another tidbit. Tradition (policy?) at FBI is not to conduct politically-sensitive raids/investigations less than 90 days before a national election.

                                        Time between Mar-a-Lago raid and election day 2022?

                                        91 days.

                                        I'm sure it was a coincidence.

                                        JollyJ Offline
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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #756

                                        @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                        Another tidbit. Tradition (policy?) at FBI is not to conduct politically-sensitive raids/investigations less than 90 days before a national election.

                                        Time between Mar-a-Lago raid and election day 2022?

                                        91 days.

                                        I'm sure it was a coincidence.

                                        The absolute shit this corrupt administration gets away with is astounding, due to a lapdog media. It's like Baghdad Bob went to work for Pravda and generates the daily talking points.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • jon-nycJ Online
                                          jon-nycJ Online
                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #757

                                          Trump wasn’t running, I doubt they felt constrained by it. And there was nothing corrupt about executing the search warrant, as Trump’s subsequent confessions make clear.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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