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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #715

    One more in a long line of nothingburgers.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #716

      It's all a strategy to politically wound Trump.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        jon-nyc
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        #717

        It’s always the coverup.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          It’s always the coverup.

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          Jolly
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          #718

          @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

          It’s always the coverup.

          Dunno, ask Hunter...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            xenon
            wrote on last edited by xenon
            #719

            A nothingburger in terms of implications - but at the core, none of this would have happened if Trump wasn't acting like a man child.

            What's the saying - play stupid games win stupid prizes.

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #720

              See, if Barry didn't have boxes of stuff he shouldn't have, I might concede your point. The fact is that all former Presidents have taken all sorts of papers.

              What you're getting is hyper-scrutiny of all things Trump, from government bureaucrats to the MSM. Then folks like you come along and hear the constant drumbeat of Bad Trump, Bad Trump, Bad Trump and then you're conditioned to always think the worst.

              You've been manipulated...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • CopperC Online
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                Copper
                wrote on last edited by Copper
                #721

                Clinton took the furniture

                and the Ws

                But that wasn't gold plated so the Trumps wouldn't want it

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  See, if Barry didn't have boxes of stuff he shouldn't have, I might concede your point. The fact is that all former Presidents have taken all sorts of papers.

                  What you're getting is hyper-scrutiny of all things Trump, from government bureaucrats to the MSM. Then folks like you come along and hear the constant drumbeat of Bad Trump, Bad Trump, Bad Trump and then you're conditioned to always think the worst.

                  You've been manipulated...

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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #722

                  @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                  See, if Barry didn't have boxes of stuff he shouldn't have, I might concede your point.

                  I think you have to concede the point. LOL

                  From National Archives
                  "NARA moved approximately 30 million pages of unclassified records to a NARA facility in the Chicago area where they are maintained exclusively by NARA," the archives said in a statement. "Additionally, NARA maintains the classified Obama Presidential records in a NARA facility in the Washington, DC, area. As required by the PRA, former President Obama has no control over where and how NARA stores the Presidential records of his Administration."

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    See, if Barry didn't have boxes of stuff he shouldn't have, I might concede your point. The fact is that all former Presidents have taken all sorts of papers.

                    What you're getting is hyper-scrutiny of all things Trump, from government bureaucrats to the MSM. Then folks like you come along and hear the constant drumbeat of Bad Trump, Bad Trump, Bad Trump and then you're conditioned to always think the worst.

                    You've been manipulated...

                    jon-nycJ Online
                    jon-nycJ Online
                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                    #723

                    @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                    See, if Barry didn't have boxes of stuff he shouldn't have, I might concede your point.

                    No you wouldn't, because your views are based on your feels, not on any evidence or facts.

                    What other president refused to cooperate with the national archives? What other president lied to them repeatedly, both verbally and in writing?

                    As I said months ago, if the fat man had simply cooperated, he wouldn't be in any trouble right now. At least for this.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #724

                      Who else has been hounded for documents that other Presidents had?

                      There is a standard for Trump. Then, there is a standard for everybody else.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Who else has been hounded for documents that other Presidents had?

                        There is a standard for Trump. Then, there is a standard for everybody else.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                        #725

                        @Jolly

                        1). Surely they aren't the same documents. And other presidents (and Secretaries of State!) have been asked to return materials and have cooperated and done so.

                        2). We can't judge double standards, no other presidents that I'm aware of have refused to cooperate and publicly and in writing lied to the federal government about documents they've taken. If you are aware of counter examples, do let me know.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @Jolly

                          1). Surely they aren't the same documents. And other presidents (and Secretaries of State!) have been asked to return materials and have cooperated and done so.

                          2). We can't judge double standards, no other presidents that I'm aware of have refused to cooperate and publicly and in writing lied to the federal government about documents they've taken. If you are aware of counter examples, do let me know.

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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #726

                          @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                          and Secretaries of State

                          Presumably after their lawyers determined what was classified and what was not.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #727

                            And they got through with Bleachbit and hammering hard drives.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • George KG George K

                              @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                              and Secretaries of State

                              Presumably after their lawyers determined what was classified and what was not.

                              jon-nycJ Online
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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #728

                              @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                              @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                              and Secretaries of State

                              Presumably after their lawyers determined what was classified and what was not.

                              Which Trump had, what, a year and a half to do while he was feigning cooperation with the Feds?

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                Axtremus
                                wrote on last edited by Axtremus
                                #729

                                https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/18/garland-to-appoint-special-counsel-for-trump-criminal-probes-00069451

                                Garland appointed Jack Smith as Special Counsel for Trump criminal probe.

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                                • JollyJ Offline
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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #730

                                  Yep, done after the announcement. Nothing political about it.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • jon-nycJ Online
                                    jon-nycJ Online
                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                    #731

                                    Makes perfect sense. It will delay things but it’s better to firewall it from the administration.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • jon-nycJ Online
                                      jon-nycJ Online
                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #732

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • JollyJ Offline
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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #733

                                        They'll have time. Friday afternoon drops can do that for you...

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          Who else has been hounded for documents that other Presidents had?

                                          There is a standard for Trump. Then, there is a standard for everybody else.

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                                          taiwan_girl
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                                          #734

                                          @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                          There is a standard for Trump. Then, there is a standard for everybody else.

                                          @taiwan_girl said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                          From National Archives
                                          "NARA moved approximately 30 million pages of unclassified records to a NARA facility in the Chicago area where they are maintained exclusively by NARA," the archives said in a statement. "Additionally, NARA maintains the classified Obama Presidential records in a NARA facility in the Washington, DC, area. As required by the PRA, former President Obama has no control over where and how NARA stores the Presidential records of his Administ

                                          Not sure where President Trump is being held to a different standard?

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