Mar-a-Lago raided
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See, if Barry didn't have boxes of stuff he shouldn't have, I might concede your point. The fact is that all former Presidents have taken all sorts of papers.
What you're getting is hyper-scrutiny of all things Trump, from government bureaucrats to the MSM. Then folks like you come along and hear the constant drumbeat of Bad Trump, Bad Trump, Bad Trump and then you're conditioned to always think the worst.
You've been manipulated...
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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See, if Barry didn't have boxes of stuff he shouldn't have, I might concede your point. The fact is that all former Presidents have taken all sorts of papers.
What you're getting is hyper-scrutiny of all things Trump, from government bureaucrats to the MSM. Then folks like you come along and hear the constant drumbeat of Bad Trump, Bad Trump, Bad Trump and then you're conditioned to always think the worst.
You've been manipulated...
@Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
See, if Barry didn't have boxes of stuff he shouldn't have, I might concede your point.
I think you have to concede the point. LOL
From National Archives
"NARA moved approximately 30 million pages of unclassified records to a NARA facility in the Chicago area where they are maintained exclusively by NARA," the archives said in a statement. "Additionally, NARA maintains the classified Obama Presidential records in a NARA facility in the Washington, DC, area. As required by the PRA, former President Obama has no control over where and how NARA stores the Presidential records of his Administration." -
See, if Barry didn't have boxes of stuff he shouldn't have, I might concede your point. The fact is that all former Presidents have taken all sorts of papers.
What you're getting is hyper-scrutiny of all things Trump, from government bureaucrats to the MSM. Then folks like you come along and hear the constant drumbeat of Bad Trump, Bad Trump, Bad Trump and then you're conditioned to always think the worst.
You've been manipulated...
@Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
See, if Barry didn't have boxes of stuff he shouldn't have, I might concede your point.
No you wouldn't, because your views are based on your feels, not on any evidence or facts.
What other president refused to cooperate with the national archives? What other president lied to them repeatedly, both verbally and in writing?
As I said months ago, if the fat man had simply cooperated, he wouldn't be in any trouble right now. At least for this.
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Who else has been hounded for documents that other Presidents had?
There is a standard for Trump. Then, there is a standard for everybody else.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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Who else has been hounded for documents that other Presidents had?
There is a standard for Trump. Then, there is a standard for everybody else.
1). Surely they aren't the same documents. And other presidents (and Secretaries of State!) have been asked to return materials and have cooperated and done so.
2). We can't judge double standards, no other presidents that I'm aware of have refused to cooperate and publicly and in writing lied to the federal government about documents they've taken. If you are aware of counter examples, do let me know.
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1). Surely they aren't the same documents. And other presidents (and Secretaries of State!) have been asked to return materials and have cooperated and done so.
2). We can't judge double standards, no other presidents that I'm aware of have refused to cooperate and publicly and in writing lied to the federal government about documents they've taken. If you are aware of counter examples, do let me know.
@jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
and Secretaries of State
Presumably after their lawyers determined what was classified and what was not.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
and Secretaries of State
Presumably after their lawyers determined what was classified and what was not.
@George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
@jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
and Secretaries of State
Presumably after their lawyers determined what was classified and what was not.
Which Trump had, what, a year and a half to do while he was feigning cooperation with the Feds?
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Garland appointed Jack Smith as Special Counsel for Trump criminal probe.
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Who else has been hounded for documents that other Presidents had?
There is a standard for Trump. Then, there is a standard for everybody else.
@Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
There is a standard for Trump. Then, there is a standard for everybody else.
@taiwan_girl said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
From National Archives
"NARA moved approximately 30 million pages of unclassified records to a NARA facility in the Chicago area where they are maintained exclusively by NARA," the archives said in a statement. "Additionally, NARA maintains the classified Obama Presidential records in a NARA facility in the Washington, DC, area. As required by the PRA, former President Obama has no control over where and how NARA stores the Presidential records of his AdministNot sure where President Trump is being held to a different standard?
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That’s Jolly saying “I got nothing to counter that except my feels”.
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That’s Jolly saying “I got nothing to counter that except my feels”.
@jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
That’s Jolly saying “I got nothing to counter that except my feels”.
No, that's Jolly saying that it's so obvious that even a cursory "look" by a blind mouse would see it.
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Take off your laser vision glasses and consider the situation in toto. There has never been anything remotely like the full court press on Trump in the last 100 years. There may never have been anything like it since the beginning of the Republic.
One cannot look at anything waged against Trump by the Deep State, especially the Justice Department and FBI, and not consider political motivations. Their behavior in the past has been criminal, IMO.
Therefore, take any allegation lodged against Trump with a tablespoon full of salt.
