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    Horace
    wrote on 17 Nov 2022, 13:46 last edited by
    #714

    So who won the nothing burger prediction competition on this one? My guess is, nobody on the left.

    Education is extremely important.

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      Mik
      wrote on 17 Nov 2022, 13:59 last edited by
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      One more in a long line of nothingburgers.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Jolly
        wrote on 17 Nov 2022, 14:00 last edited by
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        It's all a strategy to politically wound Trump.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 17 Nov 2022, 15:00 last edited by
          #717

          It’s always the coverup.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            17 Nov 2022, 15:00

            It’s always the coverup.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 17 Nov 2022, 17:17 last edited by
            #718

            @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

            It’s always the coverup.

            Dunno, ask Hunter...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              xenon
              wrote on 17 Nov 2022, 17:53 last edited by xenon
              #719

              A nothingburger in terms of implications - but at the core, none of this would have happened if Trump wasn't acting like a man child.

              What's the saying - play stupid games win stupid prizes.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 17 Nov 2022, 19:54 last edited by
                #720

                See, if Barry didn't have boxes of stuff he shouldn't have, I might concede your point. The fact is that all former Presidents have taken all sorts of papers.

                What you're getting is hyper-scrutiny of all things Trump, from government bureaucrats to the MSM. Then folks like you come along and hear the constant drumbeat of Bad Trump, Bad Trump, Bad Trump and then you're conditioned to always think the worst.

                You've been manipulated...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Copper
                  wrote on 17 Nov 2022, 20:14 last edited by Copper
                  #721

                  Clinton took the furniture

                  and the Ws

                  But that wasn't gold plated so the Trumps wouldn't want it

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                  • J Jolly
                    17 Nov 2022, 19:54

                    See, if Barry didn't have boxes of stuff he shouldn't have, I might concede your point. The fact is that all former Presidents have taken all sorts of papers.

                    What you're getting is hyper-scrutiny of all things Trump, from government bureaucrats to the MSM. Then folks like you come along and hear the constant drumbeat of Bad Trump, Bad Trump, Bad Trump and then you're conditioned to always think the worst.

                    You've been manipulated...

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 03:11 last edited by
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                    @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                    See, if Barry didn't have boxes of stuff he shouldn't have, I might concede your point.

                    I think you have to concede the point. LOL

                    From National Archives
                    "NARA moved approximately 30 million pages of unclassified records to a NARA facility in the Chicago area where they are maintained exclusively by NARA," the archives said in a statement. "Additionally, NARA maintains the classified Obama Presidential records in a NARA facility in the Washington, DC, area. As required by the PRA, former President Obama has no control over where and how NARA stores the Presidential records of his Administration."

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                    • J Jolly
                      17 Nov 2022, 19:54

                      See, if Barry didn't have boxes of stuff he shouldn't have, I might concede your point. The fact is that all former Presidents have taken all sorts of papers.

                      What you're getting is hyper-scrutiny of all things Trump, from government bureaucrats to the MSM. Then folks like you come along and hear the constant drumbeat of Bad Trump, Bad Trump, Bad Trump and then you're conditioned to always think the worst.

                      You've been manipulated...

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 03:21 last edited by jon-nyc
                      #723

                      @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                      See, if Barry didn't have boxes of stuff he shouldn't have, I might concede your point.

                      No you wouldn't, because your views are based on your feels, not on any evidence or facts.

                      What other president refused to cooperate with the national archives? What other president lied to them repeatedly, both verbally and in writing?

                      As I said months ago, if the fat man had simply cooperated, he wouldn't be in any trouble right now. At least for this.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 03:24 last edited by
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                        Who else has been hounded for documents that other Presidents had?

                        There is a standard for Trump. Then, there is a standard for everybody else.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          18 Nov 2022, 03:24

                          Who else has been hounded for documents that other Presidents had?

                          There is a standard for Trump. Then, there is a standard for everybody else.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 03:40 last edited by jon-nyc
                          #725

                          @Jolly

                          1). Surely they aren't the same documents. And other presidents (and Secretaries of State!) have been asked to return materials and have cooperated and done so.

                          2). We can't judge double standards, no other presidents that I'm aware of have refused to cooperate and publicly and in writing lied to the federal government about documents they've taken. If you are aware of counter examples, do let me know.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            18 Nov 2022, 03:40

                            @Jolly

                            1). Surely they aren't the same documents. And other presidents (and Secretaries of State!) have been asked to return materials and have cooperated and done so.

                            2). We can't judge double standards, no other presidents that I'm aware of have refused to cooperate and publicly and in writing lied to the federal government about documents they've taken. If you are aware of counter examples, do let me know.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 12:47 last edited by
                            #726

                            @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                            and Secretaries of State

                            Presumably after their lawyers determined what was classified and what was not.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 12:48 last edited by
                              #727

                              And they got through with Bleachbit and hammering hard drives.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                18 Nov 2022, 12:47

                                @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                and Secretaries of State

                                Presumably after their lawyers determined what was classified and what was not.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 13:19 last edited by
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                                @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                and Secretaries of State

                                Presumably after their lawyers determined what was classified and what was not.

                                Which Trump had, what, a year and a half to do while he was feigning cooperation with the Feds?

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 20:16 last edited by Axtremus
                                  #729

                                  https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/18/garland-to-appoint-special-counsel-for-trump-criminal-probes-00069451

                                  Garland appointed Jack Smith as Special Counsel for Trump criminal probe.

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 20:43 last edited by
                                    #730

                                    Yep, done after the announcement. Nothing political about it.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 22:27 last edited by jon-nyc
                                      #731

                                      Makes perfect sense. It will delay things but it’s better to firewall it from the administration.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 22:36 last edited by
                                        #732

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 19 Nov 2022, 02:41 last edited by
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                                          They'll have time. Friday afternoon drops can do that for you...

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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