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  • D Doctor Phibes
    23 Sept 2022, 14:35

    @Horace said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

    If one never takes a political side, one doesn't risk being associated with idiots. I see the appeal.

    If one always supports the decisions made by one political party over another, then one doesn't risk having to actually think for oneself. I see the appeal.

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    Horace
    wrote on 23 Sept 2022, 14:42 last edited by
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    @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

    @Horace said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

    If one never takes a political side, one doesn't risk being associated with idiots. I see the appeal.

    If one always supports the decisions made by one political party over another, then one doesn't risk having to actually think for oneself. I see the appeal.

    You're always free to accuse anybody of not thinking about any particular opinion they post. It's not fair and not very nice to make these sorts of blanket accusations, out of any specific context. Please try to be nicer, this place can get ugly at times.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • D Doctor Phibes
      23 Sept 2022, 14:24

      5908c8b7-9765-43e7-a388-e106d919e210-image.png

      In case you missed it, here's one of the guys arrested at the Capitol - presumably some kind of weird cosplay thang going on.

      I'm guessing he reacted to being hated by growing that moustache.

      Or maybe he's an undercover FBI guy.

      I know, it's easy to laugh. What a fucking nutbag.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 23 Sept 2022, 14:59 last edited by Jolly
      #692

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

      5908c8b7-9765-43e7-a388-e106d919e210-image.png

      In case you missed it, here's one of the guys arrested at the Capitol - presumably some kind of weird cosplay thang going on.

      I'm guessing he reacted to being hated by growing that moustache.

      Or maybe he's an undercover FBI guy.

      I know, it's easy to laugh. What a fucking nutbag.

      Ok, ya got one.

      Out of 120,000 people.

      Good for you!

      Here, I'll give you a freebie:
      alt text

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • D Doctor Phibes
        23 Sept 2022, 14:24

        5908c8b7-9765-43e7-a388-e106d919e210-image.png

        In case you missed it, here's one of the guys arrested at the Capitol - presumably some kind of weird cosplay thang going on.

        I'm guessing he reacted to being hated by growing that moustache.

        Or maybe he's an undercover FBI guy.

        I know, it's easy to laugh. What a fucking nutbag.

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        Renauda
        wrote on 23 Sept 2022, 15:07 last edited by
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        @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

        5908c8b7-9765-43e7-a388-e106d919e210-image.png

        In case you missed it, here's one of the guys arrested at the Capitol - presumably some kind of weird cosplay thang going on.

        Are those the selfies he took of himself while in the Capitol?

        Elbows up!

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        • J Jolly
          23 Sept 2022, 14:59

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

          5908c8b7-9765-43e7-a388-e106d919e210-image.png

          In case you missed it, here's one of the guys arrested at the Capitol - presumably some kind of weird cosplay thang going on.

          I'm guessing he reacted to being hated by growing that moustache.

          Or maybe he's an undercover FBI guy.

          I know, it's easy to laugh. What a fucking nutbag.

          Ok, ya got one.

          Out of 120,000 people.

          Good for you!

          Here, I'll give you a freebie:
          alt text

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 23 Sept 2022, 15:11 last edited by Doctor Phibes
          #694

          @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

          Ok, ya got one.
          Out of 120,000 people.
          Good for you!
          Here, I'll give you a freebie:

          There's plenty of unpleasant characters on both sides. I'm happy to admit the left are toxic. There's no shortage of toxicity on the other side, even if it's not always as obvious. There's a guy cycles by where I work with a big sign saying 'FUCK JOE BIDEN, AND FUCK YOU IF YOU VOTED FOR HIM'. Another nutter, obviously. People who think that 'Let's go Brandon' is hilariously funny are kind of missing the point, too. Well, to clarify, they're missing a point other than that repeating any joke 25 times is more of a mental condition than actual humour.

          I was only joking

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          • J jon-nyc
            29 Aug 2022, 16:09

            @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

            I would suggest that Trump’s trouble finding lawyers is 1) he has a reputation for not following their advice then blaming them when things go south and; 2) he is notorious for refusing to pay his bills.

            That's precisely as I've heard it described. You never know when he's going to undermine your entire legal strategy with a tweet Truth Social thingy.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 26 Sept 2022, 19:49 last edited by
            #695

            @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

            @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

            I would suggest that Trump’s trouble finding lawyers is 1) he has a reputation for not following their advice then blaming them when things go south and; 2) he is notorious for refusing to pay his bills.

            That's precisely as I've heard it described. You never know when he's going to undermine your entire legal strategy with a tweet Truth Social thingy.

            A funny exchange between Josh Barro and Ken White on Trump's Hannity interview:

            Josh Barro:
            So, does that statement on television? Does that undermine a potential criminal defense in which he would claim that he did not personally intend to take certain government documents with him certain places, if he's on television claiming I declassified everything in my own mind?

            Ken White:
            Okay. Yes. If you want to be hypercritical here, Josh, that was confessing to elements of several crimes on national television. But we're grading on a curve here in terms of the wisdom of moves, in terms of how well they work in your federal criminal defense we have to compare it to what Trump is normally like. And you're getting perilously close to criticizing the font on a two year old's I love you mommy and daddy card so...

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              Jolly
              wrote on 26 Sept 2022, 23:11 last edited by
              #696

              53%

              https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/majority-see-fbi-as-bidens-personal-gestapo-after-trump-raid

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 27 Sept 2022, 00:17 last edited by
                #697

                That’s about the same percentage who can’t find France on a map.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on 27 Sept 2022, 00:42 last edited by
                  #698

                  What percentage are worried about Biden's Gazpacho police?

                  I was only joking

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 27 Sept 2022, 00:58 last edited by
                    #699

                    More than that and growing everyday...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • J Jolly
                      27 Sept 2022, 00:58

                      More than that and growing everyday...

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 27 Sept 2022, 11:07 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                      #700

                      Biden's revenge is a dish best served cold.

                      I was only joking

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                      • D Doctor Phibes
                        27 Sept 2022, 11:07

                        Biden's revenge is a dish best served cold.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 27 Sept 2022, 12:01 last edited by
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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                        Biden's revenge is a dish best served cold.

                        Never diss a man about his oatmeal.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • J jon-nyc
                          19 Sept 2022, 19:34

                          @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                          I would suggest that Trump’s trouble finding lawyers is 1) he has a reputation for not following their advice then blaming them when things go south and; 2) he is notorious for refusing to pay his bills.

                          One of the serious attorneys on his team demanded and received a $3MM retainer.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 27 Sept 2022, 17:08 last edited by
                          #702

                          @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                          @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                          I would suggest that Trump’s trouble finding lawyers is 1) he has a reputation for not following their advice then blaming them when things go south and; 2) he is notorious for refusing to pay his bills.

                          One of the serious attorneys on his team demanded and received a $3MM retainer.

                          ….and he’s already sidelined.

                          https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/27/politics/chris-kise-trump-mar-a-lago/index.html

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • J jon-nyc
                            27 Sept 2022, 17:08

                            @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                            @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                            I would suggest that Trump’s trouble finding lawyers is 1) he has a reputation for not following their advice then blaming them when things go south and; 2) he is notorious for refusing to pay his bills.

                            One of the serious attorneys on his team demanded and received a $3MM retainer.

                            ….and he’s already sidelined.

                            https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/27/politics/chris-kise-trump-mar-a-lago/index.html

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                            George K
                            wrote on 27 Sept 2022, 18:42 last edited by
                            #703

                            @jon-nyc does he have to return the retainer?

                            If not, that's pretty sweet!

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Horace
                              wrote on 27 Sept 2022, 18:43 last edited by
                              #704

                              Hopefully he had a lawyer look over the retainer contract.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 27 Sept 2022, 18:49 last edited by
                                #705

                                Maybe Rudy gave him a gold-plated tooth straightener?

                                I was only joking

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                                • G George K
                                  27 Sept 2022, 18:42

                                  @jon-nyc does he have to return the retainer?

                                  If not, that's pretty sweet!

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 27 Sept 2022, 19:09 last edited by
                                  #706

                                  @George-K Sure. But its not clear he's totally off, just sidelined from the Florida case he was hired for.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 4 Oct 2022, 22:11 last edited by
                                    #707

                                    https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/04/politics/trump-supreme-court-mar-a-lago-appeal/index.html

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 13 Oct 2022, 21:51 last edited by
                                      #708

                                      SCOTUS: Nope, Mr. President.

                                      The Supreme Court handed former President Donald Trump a loss Thursday in his dispute with the Justice Department over documents seized from his Mar-a-Lago residence, rejecting his request that a special master be allowed to review classified papers.

                                      The justices denied Trump’s relatively narrow emergency request in a brief unsigned order. There were no noted dissents.

                                      The decision does not affect the Justice Department’s access to the same documents as part of a criminal investigation. The more than 100 documents marked as classified are just a small portion of the 11,000 records seized by federal agents in August amid concerns that Trump had unlawfully retained official White House records after leaving office.

                                      The high court left in place part of a Sept. 21 decision by the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals that barred the special master, federal Judge Raymond Dearie, from reviewing the documents. Trump had not contested the separate part of that ruling allowing the Justice Department to use the documents.

                                      The appeals court said certain documents are deemed classified because they contain information that could harm the national security, and for that reason people may have access to them only if they need to know that information.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • G George K
                                        13 Oct 2022, 21:51

                                        SCOTUS: Nope, Mr. President.

                                        The Supreme Court handed former President Donald Trump a loss Thursday in his dispute with the Justice Department over documents seized from his Mar-a-Lago residence, rejecting his request that a special master be allowed to review classified papers.

                                        The justices denied Trump’s relatively narrow emergency request in a brief unsigned order. There were no noted dissents.

                                        The decision does not affect the Justice Department’s access to the same documents as part of a criminal investigation. The more than 100 documents marked as classified are just a small portion of the 11,000 records seized by federal agents in August amid concerns that Trump had unlawfully retained official White House records after leaving office.

                                        The high court left in place part of a Sept. 21 decision by the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals that barred the special master, federal Judge Raymond Dearie, from reviewing the documents. Trump had not contested the separate part of that ruling allowing the Justice Department to use the documents.

                                        The appeals court said certain documents are deemed classified because they contain information that could harm the national security, and for that reason people may have access to them only if they need to know that information.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 14 Oct 2022, 00:33 last edited by jon-nyc
                                        #709

                                        @George-K

                                        Ken White said that was a purely performative motion and that it was unlikely he would even get Thomas’s or Alito’s agreement.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          Axtremus
                                          wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 21:32 last edited by
                                          #710

                                          https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763.171.0_2.pdf

                                          Trump's new court filing claims that Trump has designated all the documents Trump took to Mar-A-Lago are Trump's "personal documents."

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