Mar-a-Lago raided

Doctor Phibes

@George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

With Hillary Clinton selling “But Her Emails” hats at $30 a pop,

I saw where Marjorie Taylor Greene is selling 'Defund the FBI' hats. Don't know how true it is.

Are you sure it wasn't "Defund the Gazpacho police"?

George K · "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

@Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

@George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

With Hillary Clinton selling “But Her Emails” hats at $30 a pop,

I saw where Marjorie Taylor Greene is selling 'Defund the FBI' hats. Don't know how true it is.

T-Shirts

He said: "At the end of the day you go home to news; you go home to family, you go home to neighbors. The people that you're talking to on a day-to-day basis are listening to the news and hearing these things.

"There's no way, however hard you try and just focus on the work in front of you, that you're not hearing about Marjorie Taylor Greene selling t-shirts to defund the FBI, you're not hearing Senators suggesting the FBI goes into a search site and maybe planted evidence, just because that's what the FBI does. There's no way this isn't creeping around the edges of the conversation of the awareness of all the good men and women of the FBI."

That was Peter "We'll stop it" Strzok

Catseye3

@Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

Are you sure it wasn't "Defund the Gazpacho police"?

Come to think of it . . .

Doctor Phibes

She's not exactly the sharpest cookie in the chandelier.

Renauda

@Copper said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

@Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

Defund the FBI

I think we can all agree that is a great idea.

So in which Family were you a made man?

Horace

@jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

@Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

@George-K

Trump just exudes klass in a trailer park kinda of way.

I wonder if his inferiority complex is what makes him so attractive to his MAGA Republican base?

Indirectly yes.

What with we being primates and all, the status games are never too far under the surface. Trump and his base resent the same people, and Trump is often in a position to smite them.

I often find that the people I hate, hate themselves for the same reason I hate them.

jon-nyc

@Horace

The status differences result in a certain asymmetry between the Trump base and those they resent. The resentment only flows one direction, the other direction is something much more like contempt.

jon-nyc

Horace

@jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

@Horace

The status differences result in a certain asymmetry between the Trump base and those they resent. The resentment only flows one direction, the other direction is something much more like contempt.

And that contempt has been unfair, douchey, and clearly communicated since long before Trump. The reaction against that contempt, which is symptomatic of being human rather than being low status, I’m sure can be framed as the self hatred of the inferiors. But that framing is just more doucheyness and let’s please not pretend otherwise.

jon-nyc

The difference is quite real, not a matter of framing. Nietzsche is pretty good on the subject.

Horace

@jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

The difference is quite real, not a matter of framing. Nietzsche is pretty good on the subject.

Nietzsche would agree with you in this discussion then. Now it’s two against one. I’m not sure I can prevail against the both of you.

George K · "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

Judge grants Trump request for special master

A federal judge will appoint a special master to sift through nearly 13,000 documents and items the FBI seized from Donald Trump’s Florida residence and identify any that may be protected by attorney-client or executive privilege, according to a court order posted Monday.
U.S. District Judge Aileen M. Cannon wrote in her decision that the Justice Department cannot continue reviewing the materials seized by the FBI at Mar-a-Lago on Aug. 8 or use them in its criminal investigation until the special master concludes his or her assessment.
But she ruled that the Office of the Director of National Intelligence would be allowed to continue its ongoing assessment of the possible risk to national security posed by the removal from government custody of classified documents, some of them related to highly sensitive government and intelligence secrets.

In her opinion, Cannon sided with Trump’s legal team and said that the former president does retain some executive privileges after leaving office — a stance that the Justice Department disagrees with.

jon-nyc

Weird since (a) the fat guy isn’t the executive, Jolly’s President is. And (b) the DOJ is part of the executive. “Executive privilege” is generally raised contra Congress.

Hers seems to be a minority viewpoint. Even eccentric.

Probably won’t matter much in practice.

Catseye3

@jon-nyc
I imagine we'll see a lot of weirdness of this sort before it's all over. People often underestimate the vast tremendous power an ex-president has. Even a knob like this one. Weird distortions may eventuate.

That's why I'm paying no attention to the ongoing story. I'll tune back in when something happens.

jon-nyc

And the special master is……

Rudy Giuliani.

lol

George K · "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

@jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

And the special master is……

Rudy Giuliani.

lol

Shouldn’t this post be in the dark or inappropriate humor thread?

jon-nyc

@George-K lol

George K · "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

@jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

“Executive privilege” is generally raised contra Congress.

I think the special master is being appointed to ascertain whether there is any attorney-client privileged information in the seized documents, not executive privilege.

As to executive privilege, a court (in 2012) ruled that recordings that Clinton made, while in the White House, were his property, and he could refuse to turn them over. HIs power to declare pretty much anything "personal" is broad.

They were found in his sock drawer.