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  • C Catseye3
    3 Sept 2022, 22:50

    @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

    With Hillary Clinton selling “But Her Emails” hats at $30 a pop,

    I saw where Marjorie Taylor Greene is selling 'Defund the FBI' hats. Don't know how true it is.

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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on 3 Sept 2022, 23:10 last edited by
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    @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

    @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

    With Hillary Clinton selling “But Her Emails” hats at $30 a pop,

    I saw where Marjorie Taylor Greene is selling 'Defund the FBI' hats. Don't know how true it is.

    Are you sure it wasn't "Defund the Gazpacho police"?

    I was only joking

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    • C Catseye3
      3 Sept 2022, 22:50

      @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

      With Hillary Clinton selling “But Her Emails” hats at $30 a pop,

      I saw where Marjorie Taylor Greene is selling 'Defund the FBI' hats. Don't know how true it is.

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      George K
      wrote on 3 Sept 2022, 23:11 last edited by George K 9 Mar 2022, 23:12
      #587

      @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

      @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

      With Hillary Clinton selling “But Her Emails” hats at $30 a pop,

      I saw where Marjorie Taylor Greene is selling 'Defund the FBI' hats. Don't know how true it is.

      T-Shirts

      He said: "At the end of the day you go home to news; you go home to family, you go home to neighbors. The people that you're talking to on a day-to-day basis are listening to the news and hearing these things.

      "There's no way, however hard you try and just focus on the work in front of you, that you're not hearing about Marjorie Taylor Greene selling t-shirts to defund the FBI, you're not hearing Senators suggesting the FBI goes into a search site and maybe planted evidence, just because that's what the FBI does. There's no way this isn't creeping around the edges of the conversation of the awareness of all the good men and women of the FBI."

      That was Peter "We'll stop it" Strzok

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • D Doctor Phibes
        3 Sept 2022, 23:10

        @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

        @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

        With Hillary Clinton selling “But Her Emails” hats at $30 a pop,

        I saw where Marjorie Taylor Greene is selling 'Defund the FBI' hats. Don't know how true it is.

        Are you sure it wasn't "Defund the Gazpacho police"?

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        Catseye3
        wrote on 3 Sept 2022, 23:14 last edited by
        #588

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

        Are you sure it wasn't "Defund the Gazpacho police"?

        Come to think of it . . .

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 3 Sept 2022, 23:15 last edited by
          #589

          She's not exactly the sharpest cookie in the chandelier.

          I was only joking

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          • C Copper
            3 Sept 2022, 22:51

            @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

            Defund the FBI

            I think we can all agree that is a great idea.

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            Renauda
            wrote on 3 Sept 2022, 23:46 last edited by Renauda 9 Mar 2022, 23:47
            #590

            @Copper said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

            @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

            Defund the FBI

            I think we can all agree that is a great idea.

            So in which Family were you a made man?

            Elbows up!

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            • J jon-nyc
              3 Sept 2022, 21:24

              @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

              @George-K

              Trump just exudes klass in a trailer park kinda of way.

              I wonder if his inferiority complex is what makes him so attractive to his MAGA Republican base?

              Indirectly yes.

              What with we being primates and all, the status games are never too far under the surface. Trump and his base resent the same people, and Trump is often in a position to smite them.

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              Horace
              wrote on 4 Sept 2022, 03:17 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

              @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

              @George-K

              Trump just exudes klass in a trailer park kinda of way.

              I wonder if his inferiority complex is what makes him so attractive to his MAGA Republican base?

              Indirectly yes.

              What with we being primates and all, the status games are never too far under the surface. Trump and his base resent the same people, and Trump is often in a position to smite them.

              I often find that the people I hate, hate themselves for the same reason I hate them.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • H Horace
                4 Sept 2022, 03:17

                @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                @George-K

                Trump just exudes klass in a trailer park kinda of way.

                I wonder if his inferiority complex is what makes him so attractive to his MAGA Republican base?

                Indirectly yes.

                What with we being primates and all, the status games are never too far under the surface. Trump and his base resent the same people, and Trump is often in a position to smite them.

                I often find that the people I hate, hate themselves for the same reason I hate them.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 4 Sept 2022, 08:45 last edited by jon-nyc 9 Apr 2022, 10:05
                #592

                @Horace

                The status differences result in a certain asymmetry between the Trump base and those they resent. The resentment only flows one direction, the other direction is something much more like contempt.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 4 Sept 2022, 10:51 last edited by
                  #593

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                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • J jon-nyc
                    4 Sept 2022, 08:45

                    @Horace

                    The status differences result in a certain asymmetry between the Trump base and those they resent. The resentment only flows one direction, the other direction is something much more like contempt.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 4 Sept 2022, 12:14 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                    @Horace

                    The status differences result in a certain asymmetry between the Trump base and those they resent. The resentment only flows one direction, the other direction is something much more like contempt.

                    And that contempt has been unfair, douchey, and clearly communicated since long before Trump. The reaction against that contempt, which is symptomatic of being human rather than being low status, I’m sure can be framed as the self hatred of the inferiors. But that framing is just more doucheyness and let’s please not pretend otherwise.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 4 Sept 2022, 14:08 last edited by
                      #595

                      The difference is quite real, not a matter of framing. Nietzsche is pretty good on the subject.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                      • J jon-nyc
                        4 Sept 2022, 14:08

                        The difference is quite real, not a matter of framing. Nietzsche is pretty good on the subject.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 4 Sept 2022, 15:19 last edited by Horace 9 Apr 2022, 15:19
                        #596

                        @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                        The difference is quite real, not a matter of framing. Nietzsche is pretty good on the subject.

                        Nietzsche would agree with you in this discussion then. Now it’s two against one. I’m not sure I can prevail against the both of you.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 5 Sept 2022, 17:23 last edited by
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                          Judge grants Trump request for special master

                          A federal judge will appoint a special master to sift through nearly 13,000 documents and items the FBI seized from Donald Trump’s Florida residence and identify any that may be protected by attorney-client or executive privilege, according to a court order posted Monday.
                          U.S. District Judge Aileen M. Cannon wrote in her decision that the Justice Department cannot continue reviewing the materials seized by the FBI at Mar-a-Lago on Aug. 8 or use them in its criminal investigation until the special master concludes his or her assessment.
                          But she ruled that the Office of the Director of National Intelligence would be allowed to continue its ongoing assessment of the possible risk to national security posed by the removal from government custody of classified documents, some of them related to highly sensitive government and intelligence secrets.

                          In her opinion, Cannon sided with Trump’s legal team and said that the former president does retain some executive privileges after leaving office — a stance that the Justice Department disagrees with.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 5 Sept 2022, 19:44 last edited by
                            #598

                            Weird since (a) the fat guy isn’t the executive, Jolly’s President is. And (b) the DOJ is part of the executive. “Executive privilege” is generally raised contra Congress.

                            Hers seems to be a minority viewpoint. Even eccentric.

                            Probably won’t matter much in practice.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                            • J jon-nyc
                              5 Sept 2022, 19:44

                              Weird since (a) the fat guy isn’t the executive, Jolly’s President is. And (b) the DOJ is part of the executive. “Executive privilege” is generally raised contra Congress.

                              Hers seems to be a minority viewpoint. Even eccentric.

                              Probably won’t matter much in practice.

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                              Catseye3
                              wrote on 5 Sept 2022, 19:47 last edited by
                              #599

                              @jon-nyc
                              I imagine we'll see a lot of weirdness of this sort before it's all over. People often underestimate the vast tremendous power an ex-president has. Even a knob like this one. Weird distortions may eventuate.

                              That's why I'm paying no attention to the ongoing story. I'll tune back in when something happens.

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 5 Sept 2022, 19:52 last edited by
                                #600

                                And the special master is……

                                Rudy Giuliani.

                                lol

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                • J jon-nyc
                                  5 Sept 2022, 19:52

                                  And the special master is……

                                  Rudy Giuliani.

                                  lol

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 5 Sept 2022, 20:29 last edited by
                                  #601

                                  @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                  And the special master is……

                                  Rudy Giuliani.

                                  lol

                                  Shouldn’t this post be in the dark or inappropriate humor thread?

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • G George K
                                    5 Sept 2022, 20:29

                                    @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                    And the special master is……

                                    Rudy Giuliani.

                                    lol

                                    Shouldn’t this post be in the dark or inappropriate humor thread?

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 5 Sept 2022, 21:31 last edited by
                                    #602

                                    @George-K lol

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                    • J jon-nyc
                                      5 Sept 2022, 19:44

                                      Weird since (a) the fat guy isn’t the executive, Jolly’s President is. And (b) the DOJ is part of the executive. “Executive privilege” is generally raised contra Congress.

                                      Hers seems to be a minority viewpoint. Even eccentric.

                                      Probably won’t matter much in practice.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 5 Sept 2022, 21:51 last edited by
                                      #603

                                      @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                      “Executive privilege” is generally raised contra Congress.

                                      I think the special master is being appointed to ascertain whether there is any attorney-client privileged information in the seized documents, not executive privilege.

                                      As to executive privilege, a court (in 2012) ruled that recordings that Clinton made, while in the White House, were his property, and he could refuse to turn them over. HIs power to declare pretty much anything "personal" is broad.

                                      They were found in his sock drawer.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 5 Sept 2022, 21:54 last edited by
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                                        Sorry about the source, but it sums up Jon's president...

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                                        Won't be long and Jon can rejoice in conservatives wearing a scarlet M.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          Axtremus
                                          wrote on 6 Sept 2022, 20:25 last edited by
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                                          Reactions to the ruling that granted Trump a “special master”:

                                          https://www.newsweek.com/special-master-mar-lago-fbi-search-judge-ruling-legal-expert-reactions-1740020

                                          https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/biased-corrupt-trump-judge-defied-115235971.html

                                          https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/09/judge-cannon-trump-mar-a-lago-special-master/671349/?utm_source=apple_news

                                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/09/06/trump-judge-mar-a-lago-documents-grim-future/

                                          https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/05/us/trump-special-master-aileen-cannon.html

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