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  • G George K
    16 Aug 2022, 00:16

    Passports seized?

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    Yes, they were.

    They were returned.

    So, why were they taken? Flight risk., LOL?

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    Catseye3
    wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 00:30 last edited by
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    @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

    So, why were they taken? Flight risk., LOL?

    And what in the hell possessed them to give them back???

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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    • C Catseye3
      16 Aug 2022, 00:30

      @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

      So, why were they taken? Flight risk., LOL?

      And what in the hell possessed them to give them back???

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      George K
      wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 00:31 last edited by
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      @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

      And what in the hell possessed them to give them back???

      The warrant?

      The law?

      I dunno.

      The question you should be asking is "What in the hell possessed them to take it in the first place?"

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • G George K
        16 Aug 2022, 00:31

        @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

        And what in the hell possessed them to give them back???

        The warrant?

        The law?

        I dunno.

        The question you should be asking is "What in the hell possessed them to take it in the first place?"

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        Catseye3
        wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 00:36 last edited by
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        @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

        The question you should be asking is "What in the hell possessed them to take it in the first place?"

        I vas making teh joke. If they hadn't taken the passports, maybe he would've left.

        Get it?

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        • C Catseye3
          16 Aug 2022, 00:36

          @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

          The question you should be asking is "What in the hell possessed them to take it in the first place?"

          I vas making teh joke. If they hadn't taken the passports, maybe he would've left.

          Get it?

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          George K
          wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 00:40 last edited by
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          @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

          I vas making teh joke.

          Sorry, My second (or is it third?) cheap Scotch of the evening made me miss that, LOL.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • C Catseye3
            16 Aug 2022, 00:30

            @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

            So, why were they taken? Flight risk., LOL?

            And what in the hell possessed them to give them back???

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 00:56 last edited by Doctor Phibes
            #365

            @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

            @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

            So, why were they taken? Flight risk., LOL?

            And what in the hell possessed them to give them back???

            Maybe they were hoping he'd leave the country.

            Edit - I'm as slow as George, and I can't even blame it on the whisky

            I was only joking

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            • D Doctor Phibes
              16 Aug 2022, 00:56

              @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

              @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

              So, why were they taken? Flight risk., LOL?

              And what in the hell possessed them to give them back???

              Maybe they were hoping he'd leave the country.

              Edit - I'm as slow as George, and I can't even blame it on the whisky

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              Catseye3
              wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 01:04 last edited by
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              @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

              Edit - I'm as slow as George, and I can't even blame it on the whisky

              Wait, I'm slow too. The joke only worked if they'd left the passports in place. Duh.

              So we all three are just a bunch of doofikins.

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              • C Catseye3
                16 Aug 2022, 01:04

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                Edit - I'm as slow as George, and I can't even blame it on the whisky

                Wait, I'm slow too. The joke only worked if they'd left the passports in place. Duh.

                So we all three are just a bunch of doofikins.

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                Horace
                wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 01:16 last edited by
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                @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                Edit - I'm as slow as George, and I can't even blame it on the whisky

                Wait, I'm slow too. The joke only worked if they'd left the passports in place. Duh.

                So we all three are just a bunch of doofikins.

                I figured it all out but was too classy to mention what doofikins you all were being.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • H Horace
                  16 Aug 2022, 01:16

                  @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                  Edit - I'm as slow as George, and I can't even blame it on the whisky

                  Wait, I'm slow too. The joke only worked if they'd left the passports in place. Duh.

                  So we all three are just a bunch of doofikins.

                  I figured it all out but was too classy to mention what doofikins you all were being.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 01:18 last edited by
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                  @Horace said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                  I figured it all out but was too classy to mention what doofikins you all were being.

                  They weren't taking selfies, so your ability to maintain your professionalism is vindicated - again.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • J jon-nyc
                    15 Aug 2022, 22:07

                    @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                    @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                    Trump’s current argument seems untenable. If no documentation were required that would give any former POTUS the ability to declassify things for the rest of his life.

                    Obama could publish the detailed schematics of the Virginia class nuclear fast attack submarines and say “oh, I declassified these in 2007”

                    Nope, it only gives POTUS the ability to declassify things while he is in office.

                    The point is if the decision doesn’t need to be documented there’s be nothing stopping them from doing an ex-post claim. Like Trump is probably doing.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 01:47 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                    @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                    @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                    Trump’s current argument seems untenable. If no documentation were required that would give any former POTUS the ability to declassify things for the rest of his life.

                    Obama could publish the detailed schematics of the Virginia class nuclear fast attack submarines and say “oh, I declassified these in 2007”

                    Nope, it only gives POTUS the ability to declassify things while he is in office.

                    The point is if the decision doesn’t need to be documented there’s be nothing stopping them from doing an ex-post claim. Like Trump is probably doing.

                    I think all of them do, to one extent or another.

                    Unless it's something that really affects national security or they took a couple of 8-wheeler loads of documents, let it slide.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 01:48 last edited by Renauda
                      #370

                      A Tucker Carlson moment….

                      Trump says they took his three passports. One was expired. How is it that he has two currently valid passports? Is one not American? Or is he issued a Green passport? If so why would he still have a regular passport?

                      Just asking.

                      Elbows up!

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                        Copper
                        wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 01:52 last edited by
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                        https://www.newsweek.com/why-donald-trump-has-three-passports-1733779

                        Why Donald Trump Has Three Passports

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                        • R Renauda
                          16 Aug 2022, 01:48

                          A Tucker Carlson moment….

                          Trump says they took his three passports. One was expired. How is it that he has two currently valid passports? Is one not American? Or is he issued a Green passport? If so why would he still have a regular passport?

                          Just asking.

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 10:29 last edited by
                          #372

                          @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                          A Tucker Carlson moment….

                          Trump says they took his three passports. One was expired. How is it that he has two currently valid passports? Is one not American? Or is he issued a Green passport? If so why would he still have a regular passport?

                          Just asking.

                          Because he’s a wonderful bunch of guys?

                          Or maybe one for each of the people he loves the most

                          • me, myself, and I?

                          I was only joking

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                            kluurs
                            wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 14:45 last edited by
                            #373

                            h/t to Quirt for a fairly well-balanced review of the legalities of the seizure of records. There's something for everyone in here.

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                            • C Copper
                              16 Aug 2022, 01:52

                              https://www.newsweek.com/why-donald-trump-has-three-passports-1733779

                              Why Donald Trump Has Three Passports

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 15:10 last edited by
                              #374

                              @Copper

                              Thanks. That clears that question.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • K kluurs
                                16 Aug 2022, 14:45

                                h/t to Quirt for a fairly well-balanced review of the legalities of the seizure of records. There's something for everyone in here.

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 15:14 last edited by Renauda
                                #375

                                @kluurs said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                h/t to Quirt for a fairly well-balanced review of the legalities of the seizure of records. There's something for everyone in here.

                                Very well presented. Thanks, it addresses a lot of questions.

                                All I can say is that it is murky pond into which this affair is leading.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • K kluurs
                                  16 Aug 2022, 14:45

                                  h/t to Quirt for a fairly well-balanced review of the legalities of the seizure of records. There's something for everyone in here.

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                                  Catseye3
                                  wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 15:39 last edited by
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                                  @kluurs said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                  a fairly well-balanced review of the legalities of the seizure of records.

                                  Very clarifying by a writer concerned with evenhandedness in a matter that started out complex and is growing daily more so. Thanks to QT and Kluurs.

                                  Theme sentence, IMO: "There obviously must be a point where information is so sensitive, and Trump’s disregard for law so extreme, to justify legal process against Trump, even in the current milieu."

                                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 16:36 last edited by
                                    #377

                                    That would have to be an awfully extreme point.

                                    To raid an ex-President's home is beyond the pale, especially the way it was done. If Justice doesn't come up with something big, I mean YUGE, Garland has to go. Wray has to go. And a Special Prosecutor needs to shake the bushes for Whitehouse involvement.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      taiwan_girl
                                      wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 16:43 last edited by
                                      #378

                                      "As President, I will enforce all laws relating to classified information......

                                      Nobody is above the law!"

                                      Who said that? President (then candidate) Trump
                                      LOL

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                                      • T taiwan_girl
                                        16 Aug 2022, 16:43

                                        "As President, I will enforce all laws relating to classified information......

                                        Nobody is above the law!"

                                        Who said that? President (then candidate) Trump
                                        LOL

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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 16:48 last edited by
                                        #379

                                        @taiwan_girl said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                        "As President, I will enforce all laws relating to classified information......

                                        Nobody is above the law!"

                                        How did he miss Hillary?

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                                        • T taiwan_girl
                                          16 Aug 2022, 16:43

                                          "As President, I will enforce all laws relating to classified information......

                                          Nobody is above the law!"

                                          Who said that? President (then candidate) Trump
                                          LOL

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 17:03 last edited by
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                                          @taiwan_girl said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                          "As President, I will enforce all laws relating to classified information......

                                          Nobody is above the law!"

                                          Who said that? President (then candidate) Trump
                                          LOL

                                          To be fair, he did appoint an FBI director who appears to be enforcing that law.

                                          Promise kept! Way to go, Mr Trump!

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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