Mar-a-Lago raided
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@jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
The point is if the decision doesn’t need to be documented there’s be nothing stopping them from doing an ex-post claim. Like Trump is probably doing.
If you didn't document it, it didn't happen. You'd think Trump would have learned that after 4 years.
And, in the same vein, you'd think that his legal team would have told him that.
@George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
And, in the same vein, you'd think that his legal team would have told him that.
I'd venture to say his legal team(s) have had plenty of experience in telling him things. He listens only if he perceives listening is in his own best (short term) interests. Otherwise, he walks out of the room.
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@George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
And, in the same vein, you'd think that his legal team would have told him that.
I'd venture to say his legal team(s) have had plenty of experience in telling him things. He listens only if he perceives listening is in his own best (short term) interests. Otherwise, he walks out of the room.
@Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
I'd venture to say his legal team(s) have had plenty of experience in telling him things. He listens only if he perceives listening is in his own best (short term) interests. Otherwise, he walks out of the room.
You're Kraken me up!
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@George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
So, why were they taken? Flight risk., LOL?
And what in the hell possessed them to give them back???
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@George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
So, why were they taken? Flight risk., LOL?
And what in the hell possessed them to give them back???
@Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
And what in the hell possessed them to give them back???
The warrant?
The law?
I dunno.
The question you should be asking is "What in the hell possessed them to take it in the first place?"
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@Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
And what in the hell possessed them to give them back???
The warrant?
The law?
I dunno.
The question you should be asking is "What in the hell possessed them to take it in the first place?"
@George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
The question you should be asking is "What in the hell possessed them to take it in the first place?"
I vas making teh joke. If they hadn't taken the passports, maybe he would've left.
Get it?
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@George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
The question you should be asking is "What in the hell possessed them to take it in the first place?"
I vas making teh joke. If they hadn't taken the passports, maybe he would've left.
Get it?
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@George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
So, why were they taken? Flight risk., LOL?
And what in the hell possessed them to give them back???
@Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
@George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
So, why were they taken? Flight risk., LOL?
And what in the hell possessed them to give them back???
Maybe they were hoping he'd leave the country.
Edit - I'm as slow as George, and I can't even blame it on the whisky
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@Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
@George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
So, why were they taken? Flight risk., LOL?
And what in the hell possessed them to give them back???
Maybe they were hoping he'd leave the country.
Edit - I'm as slow as George, and I can't even blame it on the whisky
@Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
Edit - I'm as slow as George, and I can't even blame it on the whisky
Wait, I'm slow too. The joke only worked if they'd left the passports in place. Duh.
So we all three are just a bunch of doofikins.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
Edit - I'm as slow as George, and I can't even blame it on the whisky
Wait, I'm slow too. The joke only worked if they'd left the passports in place. Duh.
So we all three are just a bunch of doofikins.
@Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
Edit - I'm as slow as George, and I can't even blame it on the whisky
Wait, I'm slow too. The joke only worked if they'd left the passports in place. Duh.
So we all three are just a bunch of doofikins.
I figured it all out but was too classy to mention what doofikins you all were being.
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@Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
Edit - I'm as slow as George, and I can't even blame it on the whisky
Wait, I'm slow too. The joke only worked if they'd left the passports in place. Duh.
So we all three are just a bunch of doofikins.
I figured it all out but was too classy to mention what doofikins you all were being.
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@Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
@jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
Trump’s current argument seems untenable. If no documentation were required that would give any former POTUS the ability to declassify things for the rest of his life.
Obama could publish the detailed schematics of the Virginia class nuclear fast attack submarines and say “oh, I declassified these in 2007”
Nope, it only gives POTUS the ability to declassify things while he is in office.
The point is if the decision doesn’t need to be documented there’s be nothing stopping them from doing an ex-post claim. Like Trump is probably doing.
@jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
@Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
@jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
Trump’s current argument seems untenable. If no documentation were required that would give any former POTUS the ability to declassify things for the rest of his life.
Obama could publish the detailed schematics of the Virginia class nuclear fast attack submarines and say “oh, I declassified these in 2007”
Nope, it only gives POTUS the ability to declassify things while he is in office.
The point is if the decision doesn’t need to be documented there’s be nothing stopping them from doing an ex-post claim. Like Trump is probably doing.
I think all of them do, to one extent or another.
Unless it's something that really affects national security or they took a couple of 8-wheeler loads of documents, let it slide.
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A Tucker Carlson moment….
Trump says they took his three passports. One was expired. How is it that he has two currently valid passports? Is one not American? Or is he issued a Green passport? If so why would he still have a regular passport?
Just asking.
Elbows up!
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A Tucker Carlson moment….
Trump says they took his three passports. One was expired. How is it that he has two currently valid passports? Is one not American? Or is he issued a Green passport? If so why would he still have a regular passport?
Just asking.
@Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
A Tucker Carlson moment….
Trump says they took his three passports. One was expired. How is it that he has two currently valid passports? Is one not American? Or is he issued a Green passport? If so why would he still have a regular passport?
Just asking.
Because he’s a wonderful bunch of guys?
Or maybe one for each of the people he loves the most
- me, myself, and I?
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https://www.newsweek.com/why-donald-trump-has-three-passports-1733779
Why Donald Trump Has Three Passports
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h/t to Quirt for a fairly well-balanced review of the legalities of the seizure of records. There's something for everyone in here.
@kluurs said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
h/t to Quirt for a fairly well-balanced review of the legalities of the seizure of records. There's something for everyone in here.
Very well presented. Thanks, it addresses a lot of questions.
All I can say is that it is murky pond into which this affair is leading.
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h/t to Quirt for a fairly well-balanced review of the legalities of the seizure of records. There's something for everyone in here.
@kluurs said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
a fairly well-balanced review of the legalities of the seizure of records.
Very clarifying by a writer concerned with evenhandedness in a matter that started out complex and is growing daily more so. Thanks to QT and Kluurs.
Theme sentence, IMO: "There obviously must be a point where information is so sensitive, and Trump’s disregard for law so extreme, to justify legal process against Trump, even in the current milieu."
