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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on 15 Aug 2022, 22:48 last edited by
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    Has he joined Trump's team, now?

    That's a real step up (for both groups)!

    I was only joking

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    • D Doctor Phibes
      15 Aug 2022, 22:36

      @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

      If you didn't document it, it didn't happen. You'd think Trump would have learned that after 4 years.

      To be fair, he probably did learn it very well in the last 50-odd years, but being POTUS isn't the same as being whatever the polite term is for somebody like Trump in the real estate business.

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      Renauda
      wrote on 15 Aug 2022, 22:58 last edited by
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      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

      @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

      If you didn't document it, it didn't happen. You'd think Trump would have learned that after 4 years.

      To be fair, he probably did learn it very well in the last 50-odd years, but being POTUS isn't the same as being whatever the polite term is for somebody like Trump in the real estate business.

      I think the word is, tycoon. It has a somewhat more cache and chic connotation than sales weasel and not nearly as vulgar as shyster.

      Elbows up!

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      • G George K
        15 Aug 2022, 22:10

        @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

        The point is if the decision doesn’t need to be documented there’s be nothing stopping them from doing an ex-post claim. Like Trump is probably doing.

        If you didn't document it, it didn't happen. You'd think Trump would have learned that after 4 years.

        And, in the same vein, you'd think that his legal team would have told him that.

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        Catseye3
        wrote on 15 Aug 2022, 23:26 last edited by
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        @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

        And, in the same vein, you'd think that his legal team would have told him that.

        I'd venture to say his legal team(s) have had plenty of experience in telling him things. He listens only if he perceives listening is in his own best (short term) interests. Otherwise, he walks out of the room.

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        • C Catseye3
          15 Aug 2022, 23:26

          @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

          And, in the same vein, you'd think that his legal team would have told him that.

          I'd venture to say his legal team(s) have had plenty of experience in telling him things. He listens only if he perceives listening is in his own best (short term) interests. Otherwise, he walks out of the room.

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          George K
          wrote on 15 Aug 2022, 23:40 last edited by
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          @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

          I'd venture to say his legal team(s) have had plenty of experience in telling him things. He listens only if he perceives listening is in his own best (short term) interests. Otherwise, he walks out of the room.

          You're Kraken me up!

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            George K
            wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 00:16 last edited by
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            Passports seized?

            alt text

            Yes, they were.

            They were returned.

            So, why were they taken? Flight risk., LOL?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Horace
              wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 00:17 last edited by
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              Sounds like identity theft.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • G George K
                16 Aug 2022, 00:16

                Passports seized?

                alt text

                Yes, they were.

                They were returned.

                So, why were they taken? Flight risk., LOL?

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                Catseye3
                wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 00:30 last edited by
                #361

                @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                So, why were they taken? Flight risk., LOL?

                And what in the hell possessed them to give them back???

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                • C Catseye3
                  16 Aug 2022, 00:30

                  @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                  So, why were they taken? Flight risk., LOL?

                  And what in the hell possessed them to give them back???

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                  George K
                  wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 00:31 last edited by
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                  @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                  And what in the hell possessed them to give them back???

                  The warrant?

                  The law?

                  I dunno.

                  The question you should be asking is "What in the hell possessed them to take it in the first place?"

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • G George K
                    16 Aug 2022, 00:31

                    @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                    And what in the hell possessed them to give them back???

                    The warrant?

                    The law?

                    I dunno.

                    The question you should be asking is "What in the hell possessed them to take it in the first place?"

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                    Catseye3
                    wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 00:36 last edited by
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                    @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                    The question you should be asking is "What in the hell possessed them to take it in the first place?"

                    I vas making teh joke. If they hadn't taken the passports, maybe he would've left.

                    Get it?

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    • C Catseye3
                      16 Aug 2022, 00:36

                      @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                      The question you should be asking is "What in the hell possessed them to take it in the first place?"

                      I vas making teh joke. If they hadn't taken the passports, maybe he would've left.

                      Get it?

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                      George K
                      wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 00:40 last edited by
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                      @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                      I vas making teh joke.

                      Sorry, My second (or is it third?) cheap Scotch of the evening made me miss that, LOL.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • C Catseye3
                        16 Aug 2022, 00:30

                        @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                        So, why were they taken? Flight risk., LOL?

                        And what in the hell possessed them to give them back???

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 00:56 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                        #365

                        @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                        @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                        So, why were they taken? Flight risk., LOL?

                        And what in the hell possessed them to give them back???

                        Maybe they were hoping he'd leave the country.

                        Edit - I'm as slow as George, and I can't even blame it on the whisky

                        I was only joking

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                        • D Doctor Phibes
                          16 Aug 2022, 00:56

                          @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                          @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                          So, why were they taken? Flight risk., LOL?

                          And what in the hell possessed them to give them back???

                          Maybe they were hoping he'd leave the country.

                          Edit - I'm as slow as George, and I can't even blame it on the whisky

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                          Catseye3
                          wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 01:04 last edited by
                          #366

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                          Edit - I'm as slow as George, and I can't even blame it on the whisky

                          Wait, I'm slow too. The joke only worked if they'd left the passports in place. Duh.

                          So we all three are just a bunch of doofikins.

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          • C Catseye3
                            16 Aug 2022, 01:04

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                            Edit - I'm as slow as George, and I can't even blame it on the whisky

                            Wait, I'm slow too. The joke only worked if they'd left the passports in place. Duh.

                            So we all three are just a bunch of doofikins.

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 01:16 last edited by
                            #367

                            @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                            Edit - I'm as slow as George, and I can't even blame it on the whisky

                            Wait, I'm slow too. The joke only worked if they'd left the passports in place. Duh.

                            So we all three are just a bunch of doofikins.

                            I figured it all out but was too classy to mention what doofikins you all were being.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • H Horace
                              16 Aug 2022, 01:16

                              @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                              Edit - I'm as slow as George, and I can't even blame it on the whisky

                              Wait, I'm slow too. The joke only worked if they'd left the passports in place. Duh.

                              So we all three are just a bunch of doofikins.

                              I figured it all out but was too classy to mention what doofikins you all were being.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 01:18 last edited by
                              #368

                              @Horace said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                              I figured it all out but was too classy to mention what doofikins you all were being.

                              They weren't taking selfies, so your ability to maintain your professionalism is vindicated - again.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • J jon-nyc
                                15 Aug 2022, 22:07

                                @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                Trump’s current argument seems untenable. If no documentation were required that would give any former POTUS the ability to declassify things for the rest of his life.

                                Obama could publish the detailed schematics of the Virginia class nuclear fast attack submarines and say “oh, I declassified these in 2007”

                                Nope, it only gives POTUS the ability to declassify things while he is in office.

                                The point is if the decision doesn’t need to be documented there’s be nothing stopping them from doing an ex-post claim. Like Trump is probably doing.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 01:47 last edited by
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                                @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                Trump’s current argument seems untenable. If no documentation were required that would give any former POTUS the ability to declassify things for the rest of his life.

                                Obama could publish the detailed schematics of the Virginia class nuclear fast attack submarines and say “oh, I declassified these in 2007”

                                Nope, it only gives POTUS the ability to declassify things while he is in office.

                                The point is if the decision doesn’t need to be documented there’s be nothing stopping them from doing an ex-post claim. Like Trump is probably doing.

                                I think all of them do, to one extent or another.

                                Unless it's something that really affects national security or they took a couple of 8-wheeler loads of documents, let it slide.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 01:48 last edited by Renauda
                                  #370

                                  A Tucker Carlson moment….

                                  Trump says they took his three passports. One was expired. How is it that he has two currently valid passports? Is one not American? Or is he issued a Green passport? If so why would he still have a regular passport?

                                  Just asking.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 01:52 last edited by
                                    #371

                                    https://www.newsweek.com/why-donald-trump-has-three-passports-1733779

                                    Why Donald Trump Has Three Passports

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                                    • R Renauda
                                      16 Aug 2022, 01:48

                                      A Tucker Carlson moment….

                                      Trump says they took his three passports. One was expired. How is it that he has two currently valid passports? Is one not American? Or is he issued a Green passport? If so why would he still have a regular passport?

                                      Just asking.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 10:29 last edited by
                                      #372

                                      @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                      A Tucker Carlson moment….

                                      Trump says they took his three passports. One was expired. How is it that he has two currently valid passports? Is one not American? Or is he issued a Green passport? If so why would he still have a regular passport?

                                      Just asking.

                                      Because he’s a wonderful bunch of guys?

                                      Or maybe one for each of the people he loves the most

                                      • me, myself, and I?

                                      I was only joking

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                                        kluurs
                                        wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 14:45 last edited by
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                                        h/t to Quirt for a fairly well-balanced review of the legalities of the seizure of records. There's something for everyone in here.

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                                        • CopperC Copper
                                          16 Aug 2022, 01:52

                                          https://www.newsweek.com/why-donald-trump-has-three-passports-1733779

                                          Why Donald Trump Has Three Passports

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 15:10 last edited by
                                          #374

                                          @Copper

                                          Thanks. That clears that question.

                                          Elbows up!

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