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  • H Horace
    7 Aug 2022, 17:20

    @Tom-K said in Dewey's post:

    One think that troubles me though: Steve Miller said over there:
    "The most memorable thing about that visit was learning that Larry in person was exactly the same as Larry on line."
    I really wonder if that is true.

    They probably saw each other for five minutes.

    The magic of "in person meetings" and the forging of deep understandings of who a person truly is, way deep down, is one of the most consistently overstated bits of nonsense one finds on online forums.

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    Friday
    wrote on 8 Aug 2022, 06:41 last edited by
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    @Horace said in Dewey's post:

    @Tom-K said in Dewey's post:

    One think that troubles me though: Steve Miller said over there:
    "The most memorable thing about that visit was learning that Larry in person was exactly the same as Larry on line."
    I really wonder if that is true.

    They probably saw each other for five minutes.

    I think it was way more than five minutes. But, yeah, Steve always said that about Larry.

    As for Dwain....I'm actually really disappointed. My memory of him is vastly different from the man who wrote this post.

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    • T Tom-K
      7 Aug 2022, 16:54

      @Horace said in Dewey's post:

      He wasn't really a religious person at all; the whole subject only mattered to him insofar as it bolstered his extreme right-wing politics.

      One of the little peccadillos of (some/many) Protestants is to step into the shoes of God Almighty and declare judgement on some other Protestants that aren’t in full theological agreement as “unsaved” and “unbelieving.” This may be the case with Dewey here. I didn’t follow the Larry-Dewey wars all that closely but I’m sure Larry had a similar pronouncement. (As a Catholic I don’t get into these internecine arguments and actually the one thing that just about all these Protestants agree on is that Catholics are “unsaved” and “unbelieving.”) Anyway, I do take issue here with Dewey’s appraisal. I remember when Wacky Iraqi was on the board and had terminal cancer Larry stopped his usual harangue, changed his whole demeanor, and tried to convert Wacky to the Gospel and save his soul before he died. It is exactly what Christians are supposed to do. Larry really impressed me by how he took his faith and Wacky’s salvation so seriously. It didn’t even occur to me to do something similar. And not that I would have even if it did. But Larry did it and that would be a Christian.

      Well, there’s that. As to the tone of Dewey’s missive—Dewey was butt hurt by Larry and he’s just expressing what he feels. Larry, I’m sure would do something similar is the shoe was on the other foot. Next door the people there are pretty much dancing on Larry’s grave. They were sometimes on the wrong end of Larry’s personal invectives and are venting. The gleefulness is a bit troubling, but that is the sandbox we all play in. But those over there tend to see the mote in Larry’s eye and not see the plank in their own—right from the beginning they expected to lecture the poor conservatives on the error of our ways with equal measures of condescension and pity and they expected us acquiesce to their wisdom, but instead to their surprise they got one hell of a fight. All good.

      One think that troubles me though: Steve Miller said over there:
      "The most memorable thing about that visit was learning that Larry in person was exactly the same as Larry on line."
      I really wonder if that is true.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 8 Aug 2022, 11:59 last edited by
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      @Tom-K said in Dewey's post:

      @Horace said in Dewey's post:

      He wasn't really a religious person at all; the whole subject only mattered to him insofar as it bolstered his extreme right-wing politics.

      One of the little peccadillos of (some/many) Protestants is to step into the shoes of God Almighty and declare judgement on some other Protestants that aren’t in full theological agreement as “unsaved” and “unbelieving.” This may be the case with Dewey here. I didn’t follow the Larry-Dewey wars all that closely but I’m sure Larry had a similar pronouncement. (As a Catholic I don’t get into these internecine arguments and actually the one thing that just about all these Protestants agree on is that Catholics are “unsaved” and “unbelieving.”) Anyway, I do take issue here with Dewey’s appraisal. I remember when Wacky Iraqi was on the board and had terminal cancer Larry stopped his usual harangue, changed his whole demeanor, and tried to convert Wacky to the Gospel and save his soul before he died. It is exactly what Christians are supposed to do. Larry really impressed me by how he took his faith and Wacky’s salvation so seriously. It didn’t even occur to me to do something similar. And not that I would have even if it did. But Larry did it and that would be a Christian.

      Well, there’s that. As to the tone of Dewey’s missive—Dewey was butt hurt by Larry and he’s just expressing what he feels. Larry, I’m sure would do something similar is the shoe was on the other foot. Next door the people there are pretty much dancing on Larry’s grave. They were sometimes on the wrong end of Larry’s personal invectives and are venting. The gleefulness is a bit troubling, but that is the sandbox we all play in. But those over there tend to see the mote in Larry’s eye and not see the plank in their own—right from the beginning they expected to lecture the poor conservatives on the error of our ways with equal measures of condescension and pity and they expected us acquiesce to their wisdom, but instead to their surprise they got one hell of a fight. All good.

      One think that troubles me though: Steve Miller said over there:
      "The most memorable thing about that visit was learning that Larry in person was exactly the same as Larry on line."
      I really wonder if that is true.

      Missing your target a bit.

      Most protestants don't think Catholics are unsaved or unbelieving. We do reject sacerdotalism and don't understand how y'all got so hung up on that Mary thing. And we'll just mark that building the Church on Peter idea, down to a reading comprehension problem. 😛

      As for protestant vs. protestant, most don't sweat the small stuff. I don't care if Pentecostals believe they need to speak in tongues, or Baptists abhor taking an alcoholic drink, etc. Where I do have a problem with any Christian or somebody who identifies as Christian, is when they portray something irrefutably sinful as being okey-dokey. It just doesn't work that way.

      And be we whatever shade of Christianity, those pastoral letters still apply to the leadership of the church. The clergy is held to a higher standard. They don't always meet it, but they must strive to do so.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • A Aqua Letifer
        7 Aug 2022, 17:50

        @Horace said in Dewey's post:

        @Tom-K said in Dewey's post:

        One think that troubles me though: Steve Miller said over there:
        "The most memorable thing about that visit was learning that Larry in person was exactly the same as Larry on line."
        I really wonder if that is true.

        They probably saw each other for five minutes.

        The magic of "in person meetings" and the forging of deep understandings of who a person truly is, way deep down, is one of the most consistently overstated bits of nonsense one finds on online forums.

        I think you're very wrong about that. Steve didn't look into the deepest parts of Larry's soul for those five minutes, but there's much more information that gets conveyed in person which you would otherwise never get reading what someone wrote.

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        89th
        wrote on 8 Aug 2022, 12:00 last edited by
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        @Aqua-Letifer said in Dewey's post:

        but there's much more information that gets conveyed in person which you would otherwise never get reading what someone wrote.

        True. For example, I don’t even look like a key

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        • J jon-nyc
          7 Aug 2022, 18:01

          I guess one could be wrong with the initial in-person impression but as someone who has met scores of forumites over the years there are some who are pretty much the same as online and there are some who are very different in person, often times in the latter case it’s people who are far more argumentative online but not so much in person. (Quirt is an excellent example of the latter).

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          Jolly
          wrote on 8 Aug 2022, 12:03 last edited by
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          @jon-nyc said in Dewey's post:

          I guess one could be wrong with the initial in-person impression but as someone who has met scores of forumites over the years there are some who are pretty much the same as online and there are some who are very different in person, often times in the latter case it’s people who are far more argumentative online but not so much in person. (Quirt is an excellent example of the latter).

          I hope so, since the man can be an absolute asshole on-line.

          OTH, most lawyers like to argue. Maybe that's why they seek out the profession.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Mik
            wrote on 8 Aug 2022, 13:07 last edited by
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            Quirt is a lot of fun in person. Can be here too. I always felt he saw internet discussion as an online gym to keep his lawyerly skills sharp.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 8 Aug 2022, 13:09 last edited by
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              I got to know Quirt pretty well when he lived in this area - I liked him a lot. He's a lot of fun to hang out with.

              I was only joking

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                Jolly
                wrote on 8 Aug 2022, 13:56 last edited by Jolly 8 Aug 2022, 13:57
                #125

                I'll take y'all's word for it. Seems like a nice lady he's married to, so he must have some redeeming qualities.🙂

                Me, I'm just me. I write like I talk, except it's hard to convey the redneck accent in text. I try to have manners, have known to be cordial on occasion, tend to say what I think and if I think you are trying to intimidate me, I'll rip your ears off and feed them to you.

                I'm just a big teddy bear 🧸.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • J Jolly
                  8 Aug 2022, 13:56

                  I'll take y'all's word for it. Seems like a nice lady he's married to, so he must have some redeeming qualities.🙂

                  Me, I'm just me. I write like I talk, except it's hard to convey the redneck accent in text. I try to have manners, have known to be cordial on occasion, tend to say what I think and if I think you are trying to intimidate me, I'll rip your ears off and feed them to you.

                  I'm just a big teddy bear 🧸.

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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on 8 Aug 2022, 16:03 last edited by
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                  @Jolly said in Dewey's post:

                  I'm just a big teddy bear 🧸.

                  :couple_with_heart:

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                  • J jodi
                    7 Aug 2022, 17:08

                    All I can think of as I watch this piling on from both “sides” is that Larry would have loved this sh*t. It’s actually made me laugh out loud a couple of time. Sorry, I’m in a weird place in my mind lately. A weird and sometimes overwhelming grief that pops up at strange times from losing my Dad and both of our cats this year, along with my mom’s dementia that has taken her mostly away, even though her body is still there. Really hard. So death has been on my mind a lot lately.

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 8 Aug 2022, 16:51 last edited by
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                    @jodi said in Dewey's post:

                    All I can think of as I watch this piling on from both “sides” is that Larry would have loved this sh*t. It’s actually made me laugh out loud a couple of time. Sorry, I’m in a weird place in my mind lately. A weird and sometimes overwhelming grief that pops up at strange times from losing my Dad and both of our cats this year, along with my mom’s dementia that has taken her mostly away, even though her body is still there. Really hard. So death has been on my mind a lot lately.

                    :woman-heart-woman: Tough times. I will send positive thoughts to you.

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                    • J Jolly
                      8 Aug 2022, 13:56

                      I'll take y'all's word for it. Seems like a nice lady he's married to, so he must have some redeeming qualities.🙂

                      Me, I'm just me. I write like I talk, except it's hard to convey the redneck accent in text. I try to have manners, have known to be cordial on occasion, tend to say what I think and if I think you are trying to intimidate me, I'll rip your ears off and feed them to you.

                      I'm just a big teddy bear 🧸.

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on 8 Aug 2022, 17:05 last edited by
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                      @Jolly said in Dewey's post:

                      I'm just a big teddy bear 🧸.

                      With lots of guns and ammo.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 8 Aug 2022, 17:05 last edited by
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                        I used to have a few guns and a couple of boxes of ammo.

                        Sadly, I lost them in a boating accident...

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 8 Aug 2022, 21:23 last edited by
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                          There appears to be an unfortunate consensus forming amongst the Dewites that Larry was a nearly complete fiction. That the life narratives he wove online were largely invented. Personally, I suspect the narrative that Larry was almost complete fiction, is more fictitious than the stuff he wrote about himself. But confirmation bias, as always, rules the day in the minds of many.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 8 Aug 2022, 21:26 last edited by
                            #131

                            These are Trump haters you are talking about

                            Alternate reality is not a problem

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 8 Aug 2022, 21:28 last edited by
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                              Amen.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 8 Aug 2022, 22:15 last edited by
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                                But at least we have a cool nickname....The Wolfpack.

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                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • J Jolly
                                  8 Aug 2022, 22:15

                                  But at least we have a cool nickname....The Wolfpack.

                                  alt text

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                                  Aqua Letifer
                                  wrote on 8 Aug 2022, 22:50 last edited by
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                                  @Jolly said in Dewey's post:

                                  But at least we have a cool nickname....The Wolfpack.

                                  alt text

                                  I'm not part of that bullshit, though, right? I could never abide any clique so crass and irreverent that it'd have the likes of me as a member.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • A Aqua Letifer
                                    8 Aug 2022, 22:50

                                    @Jolly said in Dewey's post:

                                    But at least we have a cool nickname....The Wolfpack.

                                    alt text

                                    I'm not part of that bullshit, though, right? I could never abide any clique so crass and irreverent that it'd have the likes of me as a member.

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                                    Catseye3
                                    wrote on 8 Aug 2022, 22:54 last edited by Catseye3 8 Aug 2022, 22:54
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                                    @Aqua-Letifer

                                    Why does that sound so familiar?

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                                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                    • H Horace
                                      8 Aug 2022, 21:23

                                      There appears to be an unfortunate consensus forming amongst the Dewites that Larry was a nearly complete fiction. That the life narratives he wove online were largely invented. Personally, I suspect the narrative that Larry was almost complete fiction, is more fictitious than the stuff he wrote about himself. But confirmation bias, as always, rules the day in the minds of many.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 8 Aug 2022, 22:55 last edited by
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                                      @Horace said in Dewey's post:

                                      There appears to be an unfortunate consensus forming amongst the Dewites that Larry was a nearly complete fiction. That the life narratives he wove online were largely invented.

                                      It’s a shame you never met Vince.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      • J jon-nyc
                                        8 Aug 2022, 22:55

                                        @Horace said in Dewey's post:

                                        There appears to be an unfortunate consensus forming amongst the Dewites that Larry was a nearly complete fiction. That the life narratives he wove online were largely invented.

                                        It’s a shame you never met Vince.

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                                        Klaus
                                        wrote on 8 Aug 2022, 22:56 last edited by
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                                        @jon-nyc What about Vince?

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 8 Aug 2022, 22:59 last edited by Mik 8 Aug 2022, 23:02
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                                          Vince was a grade a hoot. I was lucky enough to meet him in a belly dancing restaurant in DC, along with Aqua, Ax and his family, Lufin, M&Ms and their family, Improv...

                                          He nearly got me into a fight with the neighboring party who I suspect were relatives of the dancers. Vince was the friend who comes to town to party with you. You all end up in jail and you can't wait for him to come back and do it again.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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