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Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?

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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    @LuFins-Dad @Mik @Jolly , I do not recall seeing you object when US Senators and House Representatives visited Ukraine or Georgia (Eastern Europe) or Israel or or Japan or Taiwan (Sen. Rick Scott visited Taiwan as recently as July 8th) in the recent past.

    What are the key differences that motivate your objection to Pelosi's visit now?

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    @Axtremus said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:

    @LuFins-Dad @Mik @Jolly , I do not recall seeing you object when US Senators and House Representatives visited Ukraine or Georgia (Eastern Europe) or Israel or or Japan or Taiwan (Sen. Rick Scott visited Taiwan as recently as July 8th) in the recent past.

    What are the key differences that motivate your objection to Pelosi's visit now?

    Sanity.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • AxtremusA Axtremus

      @LuFins-Dad @Mik @Jolly , I do not recall seeing you object when US Senators and House Representatives visited Ukraine or Georgia (Eastern Europe) or Israel or or Japan or Taiwan (Sen. Rick Scott visited Taiwan as recently as July 8th) in the recent past.

      What are the key differences that motivate your objection to Pelosi's visit now?

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      @Axtremus said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:

      @LuFins-Dad @Mik @Jolly , I do not recall seeing you object when US Senators and House Representatives visited Ukraine or Georgia (Eastern Europe) or Israel or or Japan or Taiwan (Sen. Rick Scott visited Taiwan as recently as July 8th) in the recent past.

      What are the key differences that motivate your objection to Pelosi's visit now?

      Do you recall seeing me take a crap? Doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…

      The Brad

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        In my (biased) opinion, not going to Taiwan by Rep. Pelosi would have been signaling to mainland China that all they have to do is shout and the US will back down. I am glad she went.

        China is the bully of east Asia. You have to stand up to bullies I think.

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          While she has no choice but to go now, I don’t think she should have ever started this shitshow. The Department of State should be making these visits along with the Chief Executive. Not the Speaker of the House. Foreign Diplomacy is not her job and she does not have the training or the authority to accomplish anything…

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          @LuFins-Dad said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:

          While she has no choice but to go now, I don’t think she should have ever started this shitshow. The Department of State should be making these visits along with the Chief Executive. Not the Speaker of the House. Foreign Diplomacy is not her job and she does not have the training or the authority to accomplish anything…

          Yep, well said

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          • MikM Away
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            In her own words.

            https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/8222-3

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Away
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              I'm beginning to think it might have been a good idea. China's response was to fire off a few missiles we already knew they had. Big whoop.

              But now that everyone signaled their position let's let this settle back down.

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-claims-precision-missile-strikes-in-taiwan-strait/ar-AA10hZA5?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e9119916949c40f3b3c94f310c497d2e

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • AxtremusA Away
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                #22

                Another US congressional delegation visits Taiwan:

                US Taiwan: Congress team follows Pelosi with second high-level visit in a month
                https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-62541750

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                  Another current visit

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/another-us-congressional-delegation-in-taiwan-amid-tensions/ar-AA11A2tJ

                  Participants

                  Stephanie Murphy -D
                  Kaiali’i Kahele - D
                  Scott Franklin - R
                  Joe Wilson - R
                  Andy Barr - R
                  Darrell Issa - R
                  Claudia Tenney - R
                  Kat Cammack - R

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    Another current visit

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/another-us-congressional-delegation-in-taiwan-amid-tensions/ar-AA11A2tJ

                    Participants

                    Stephanie Murphy -D
                    Kaiali’i Kahele - D
                    Scott Franklin - R
                    Joe Wilson - R
                    Andy Barr - R
                    Darrell Issa - R
                    Claudia Tenney - R
                    Kat Cammack - R

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                    @taiwan_girl

                    I think it great to see US politicians getting out and seeing and experiencing the world they inhabit.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • MikM Mik

                      Wholly agree, Lufin. There is nothing to be gained and everything to be lost.

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                      @Mik said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:

                      Wholly agree, Lufin. There is nothing to be gained and everything to be lost.

                      Maybe she'll dazzle them with her pretty scarf. You know, the one with the stripes.

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        In my (biased) opinion, not going to Taiwan by Rep. Pelosi would have been signaling to mainland China that all they have to do is shout and the US will back down. I am glad she went.

                        China is the bully of east Asia. You have to stand up to bullies I think.

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                        @taiwan_girl said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:

                        In my (biased) opinion, not going to Taiwan by Rep. Pelosi would have been signaling to mainland China that all they have to do is shout and the US will back down.

                        Agreed, insofar as I have an understanding of China. (I trust your judgment, however.)

                        But as LuFin said, "While she has no choice but to go now, I don’t think she should have ever started this shitshow."

                        And:

                        "The Department of State should be making these visits along with the Chief Executive. Not the Speaker of the House. Foreign Diplomacy is not her job and she does not have the training or the authority to accomplish anything…"

                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          Just to be clear, this recent one was a separate visit from Rep. Pelosi. So far this summer:

                          Rep Pelosi + others - early Aug
                          Sen Markey + others - mid Aug
                          Gov Ducey (AZ) + others - end Aug
                          Gov Holcomb (IN) + others - late mid Aug
                          Rep Murphy + others - early Sept

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