Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?
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wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 15:13 last edited by
Wholly agree, Lufin. There is nothing to be gained and everything to be lost.
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While she has no choice but to go now, I don’t think she should have ever started this shitshow. The Department of State should be making these visits along with the Chief Executive. Not the Speaker of the House. Foreign Diplomacy is not her job and she does not have the training or the authority to accomplish anything…
wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 15:20 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:
While she has no choice but to go now, I don’t think she should have ever started this shitshow. The Department of State should be making these visits along with the Chief Executive. Not the Speaker of the House. Foreign Diplomacy is not her job and she does not have the training or the authority to accomplish anything…
Another argument for term levels. Nancy has been unhinged for at least four or five years.
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wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 17:32 last edited by Axtremus 8 Feb 2022, 17:33
@LuFins-Dad @Mik @Jolly , I do not recall seeing you object when US Senators and House Representatives visited Ukraine or Georgia (Eastern Europe) or Israel or or Japan or Taiwan (Sen. Rick Scott visited Taiwan as recently as July 8th) in the recent past.
What are the key differences that motivate your objection to Pelosi's visit now?
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@LuFins-Dad said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:
While she has no choice but to go now, I don’t think she should have ever started this shitshow. The Department of State should be making these visits along with the Chief Executive. Not the Speaker of the House. Foreign Diplomacy is not her job and she does not have the training or the authority to accomplish anything…
Another argument for term levels. Nancy has been unhinged for at least four or five years.
wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 17:38 last edited by@Jolly said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:
at least four or five years
You misspelled "forty" and "fifty."
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@LuFins-Dad @Mik @Jolly , I do not recall seeing you object when US Senators and House Representatives visited Ukraine or Georgia (Eastern Europe) or Israel or or Japan or Taiwan (Sen. Rick Scott visited Taiwan as recently as July 8th) in the recent past.
What are the key differences that motivate your objection to Pelosi's visit now?
wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 17:43 last edited by@Axtremus said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:
@LuFins-Dad @Mik @Jolly , I do not recall seeing you object when US Senators and House Representatives visited Ukraine or Georgia (Eastern Europe) or Israel or or Japan or Taiwan (Sen. Rick Scott visited Taiwan as recently as July 8th) in the recent past.
What are the key differences that motivate your objection to Pelosi's visit now?
Sanity.
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@LuFins-Dad @Mik @Jolly , I do not recall seeing you object when US Senators and House Representatives visited Ukraine or Georgia (Eastern Europe) or Israel or or Japan or Taiwan (Sen. Rick Scott visited Taiwan as recently as July 8th) in the recent past.
What are the key differences that motivate your objection to Pelosi's visit now?
wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 19:16 last edited by@Axtremus said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:
@LuFins-Dad @Mik @Jolly , I do not recall seeing you object when US Senators and House Representatives visited Ukraine or Georgia (Eastern Europe) or Israel or or Japan or Taiwan (Sen. Rick Scott visited Taiwan as recently as July 8th) in the recent past.
What are the key differences that motivate your objection to Pelosi's visit now?
Do you recall seeing me take a crap? Doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…
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wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 01:09 last edited by
In my (biased) opinion, not going to Taiwan by Rep. Pelosi would have been signaling to mainland China that all they have to do is shout and the US will back down. I am glad she went.
China is the bully of east Asia. You have to stand up to bullies I think.
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While she has no choice but to go now, I don’t think she should have ever started this shitshow. The Department of State should be making these visits along with the Chief Executive. Not the Speaker of the House. Foreign Diplomacy is not her job and she does not have the training or the authority to accomplish anything…
wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 03:24 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:
While she has no choice but to go now, I don’t think she should have ever started this shitshow. The Department of State should be making these visits along with the Chief Executive. Not the Speaker of the House. Foreign Diplomacy is not her job and she does not have the training or the authority to accomplish anything…
Yep, well said
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wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 13:52 last edited by
In her own words.
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wrote on 4 Aug 2022, 14:10 last edited by Mik 8 Apr 2022, 14:11
I'm beginning to think it might have been a good idea. China's response was to fire off a few missiles we already knew they had. Big whoop.
But now that everyone signaled their position let's let this settle back down.
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wrote on 14 Aug 2022, 19:40 last edited by
Another US congressional delegation visits Taiwan:
US Taiwan: Congress team follows Pelosi with second high-level visit in a month
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-62541750 -
wrote on 8 Sept 2022, 15:21 last edited by
Another current visit
Participants
Stephanie Murphy -D
Kaiali’i Kahele - D
Scott Franklin - R
Joe Wilson - R
Andy Barr - R
Darrell Issa - R
Claudia Tenney - R
Kat Cammack - R -
Another current visit
Participants
Stephanie Murphy -D
Kaiali’i Kahele - D
Scott Franklin - R
Joe Wilson - R
Andy Barr - R
Darrell Issa - R
Claudia Tenney - R
Kat Cammack - Rwrote on 8 Sept 2022, 17:32 last edited byI think it great to see US politicians getting out and seeing and experiencing the world they inhabit.
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wrote on 8 Sept 2022, 17:37 last edited by
@Mik said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:
Wholly agree, Lufin. There is nothing to be gained and everything to be lost.
Maybe she'll dazzle them with her pretty scarf. You know, the one with the stripes.
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In my (biased) opinion, not going to Taiwan by Rep. Pelosi would have been signaling to mainland China that all they have to do is shout and the US will back down. I am glad she went.
China is the bully of east Asia. You have to stand up to bullies I think.
wrote on 8 Sept 2022, 17:44 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Should Pelosi Visit Taiwan?:
In my (biased) opinion, not going to Taiwan by Rep. Pelosi would have been signaling to mainland China that all they have to do is shout and the US will back down.
Agreed, insofar as I have an understanding of China. (I trust your judgment, however.)
But as LuFin said, "While she has no choice but to go now, I don’t think she should have ever started this shitshow."
And:
"The Department of State should be making these visits along with the Chief Executive. Not the Speaker of the House. Foreign Diplomacy is not her job and she does not have the training or the authority to accomplish anything…"
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wrote on 10 Sept 2022, 00:12 last edited by
Just to be clear, this recent one was a separate visit from Rep. Pelosi. So far this summer:
Rep Pelosi + others - early Aug
Sen Markey + others - mid Aug
Gov Ducey (AZ) + others - end Aug
Gov Holcomb (IN) + others - late mid Aug
Rep Murphy + others - early Sept
