Larry

George K · K Klaus 26 Jul 2022, 22:26

I wonder why an ICU nurse would tell patients something like that when it's not true.

From his messages, it appears that it was true. Or at least somewhat true - stage 4. Nevertheless, it is not the role of an ICU nurse to do this. It's the role of the docs taking care of the patients. She should be reprimanded.

From what I understand, while stage 4 is always pretty bad, a lot now depends on the details, such as the exact histological type, the size and localization of metastases, ...

Yes. A big medical center should be able to make those determinations and direct further therapy.

I wish there was something we could do.

kluurs · 26 Jul 2022, 23:48

Damn... I'm so sorry to hear this news. I'm at a loss for useful words - just sad to hear this.

brenda · 26 Jul 2022, 23:35

Larry, I hope you can get this message, or George can share it with you.

Please consider coming to Mayo here in Minnesoooota. You deserve top tier docs and oncologists, and we have them here. I can help if you or your wife need some tips, info, or whatever on coming to Rochester, and I would be very happy to help you and your sweet bride.

You could at least get the Mayo doctors' ideas on what options would be best for you, and they may have options that have not been presented to you yet. Mayo will have a team of docs, not just one, that will review your case and come up with various options. You're worth getting another set of expert eyes on your health situation before you make decisions.

George K · B brenda 26 Jul 2022, 23:25

@brenda said in Larry:

Larry, I hope you can get this message, or George can share it with you.

All of my communications with the Injun have been via PM . He might respond.

Friday · wrote on 26 Jul 2022, 23:36

What horrible news.

Love and prayers to you Larry.

Jolly · wrote on 26 Jul 2022, 23:47

Mayo is good. Used to deal with their lab all the time. But there are other good institutions, with strong treatment areas. When I think of cancer, I think of M.D. Anderson.

And I have no idea how much Larry would like to travel. A lot of patients dont like to venture too far away from family support systems. Vanderbilt is not too far. I know they have a cancer center. Duke would be to the East.

Every patient is different. Like Jon, my mom had lung cancer...Small oat cell. Mom had the oncologist shaking his head, because she made it almost four years. That was back in the late 90's, and I'm sure we have better treatments today, than back then.

Catseye3 · K kluurs 26 Jul 2022, 23:24

@kluurs said in Larry:

Damn... I'm so sorry to hear this news. I'm at a loss for useful words - just sad to hear this.

This from me also.

Mik · wrote on 27 Jul 2022, 00:08

I will echo the recommendations to visit a top notch medical center. There are always treatments not available or known to smaller locations.

Larry · 27 Jul 2022, 00:20

Thanks, every one of you. Jolly, ill be going to Thompson's Cancer Centers for treatment.

I do not want to die. This is scary. Thank you all for caring.

brenda · L Larry 27 Jul 2022, 00:10

@Larry said in Larry:

Thanks, every one of you. Jolly, ill be going to Thompson's Cancer Centers for treatment.

I do not want to die. This is scary. Thank you all for caring.

Good! Love ya, Larry!

taiwan_girl · wrote on 27 Jul 2022, 00:44

Wow!!!

Larry, you are too tough to not be able to beat this!!

Hugs and positive thoughts!!

:couple_with_heart:

Aqua Letifer · wrote on 27 Jul 2022, 00:47

Be thinking of you, Larry. Whenever you need a break from things, remember that there's plenty of dumb bullshit here to focus on for awhile.

(Serious about that, though. Sometimes stuff like that can help.)

Jolly · 27 Jul 2022, 01:51

@Larry said in Larry:

Thanks, every one of you. Jolly, ill be going to Thompson's Cancer Centers for treatment.

I do not want to die. This is scary. Thank you all for caring.

I'd be scared, too. Never had cancer, but I have had the fun of getting my chest cracked and a CABG procedure that included some titanium plates that set off every damn metal detector in the airport. And I think what you would be scared of, is the same thing I was scared of...It's not so much what Death is or what may be on the other side, but it's all the commitments and things you want or need to do for those family and friends you love.

Well, now is not the time to focus on what you can't do, it's time to focus on what you can do. DO seek the best medical care you can and work with them on your treatment plan. DO keep a positive attitude and enjoy all the wonderful things of everyday life, each and every day. Each day is a gift, that's why it's called the present. (Gee, that was sappy and stolen off of a meme ). And just be Larry. Your cancer is a disease, it's not you. You be you.

Best wishes and lots of prayers. Hope you feel better soon.

Mik · L Larry 27 Jul 2022, 00:10

@Larry said in Larry:

Thanks, every one of you. Jolly, ill be going to Thompson's Cancer Centers for treatment.

I do not want to die. This is scary. Thank you all for caring.

I'm so glad you are going further for treatment. We're all with you, and anything we can do, you have but to mention it.

Catseye3 · J Jolly 27 Jul 2022, 01:36

@Jolly said in Larry:

DO keep a positive attitude

This is the most important thing you can do. The brain is capable of alterations that are miraculous. Have faith in that tremendous power. It is as yet beyond the understanding of medical science, but it is there for you.

89th · wrote on 27 Jul 2022, 02:41

Hang in there Larry, few are tougher than you! Every cancer is different. My father in law woke up in Feb 2011 with stage 4 kidney cancer, somehow beat it. It takes some luck, and some stubbornness. Here’s to you having both, friend.

Rich · wrote on 27 Jul 2022, 16:32

Hoping the best for you, Larry

mark · wrote on 27 Jul 2022, 18:48

Been on the road to FL and I just read through this.

Larry, I am so sorry you're going through this. I wish for nothing but the best treatment and a cure for you.

In the meantime I hope they can provide treatment that will alleviate your suffering with the breathing problems. I have been short of breath before, and it is scary.

Know that you are my thoughts.

Ivorythumper · L Larry 27 Jul 2022, 00:10

@Larry

All I have to give you is my solidarity and prayers. You'll get them both -- the Catholic ones.

Pray to St Charbel Makhlouf. You don't need to know who he is, or even how to say his name. He knows who you are, and he's a friend of Jesus.

Peace to you.

Rainman · 28 Jul 2022, 04:38

My thoughts and prayers for your fighting this, Larry.
My sister was diagnosed with stage IV lung cancer, she fought hard and now lives cancer-free in Palm Springs, it's been about 20 years now.
You have a lot of friends, virtual and otherwise, we are all here pulling for you! Best to you and your family as you take this on together.

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Larry