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Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #101

    Wow. Thanks for the followup, TG!

    How would you like to be the shooter's parent and be looking at jail time for what he did?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      #102

      It was his choice, no?

      Prosecutors have pointed out that by signing the document, Crimo agreed to be "liable for any damages resulting from the minor applicant’s use of firearms or firearm ammunition."

      As we used to say on Wall Street, sometimes the risk shows up.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        #103

        I suppose it's the equivalent of co-signing your kid's loan or credit card or rental application, you are on the hook if you kid becomes delinquent or trashed his rental. But still, "liable for damage" usually means property damage, with the "liability" being monetary in nature, no? Loss of personal freedom is rather different in nature.

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          jon-nyc
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          #104

          True.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            I suppose it's the equivalent of co-signing your kid's loan or credit card or rental application, you are on the hook if you kid becomes delinquent or trashed his rental. But still, "liable for damage" usually means property damage, with the "liability" being monetary in nature, no? Loss of personal freedom is rather different in nature.

            George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #105

            @Axtremus said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

            "liable for damage" usually means property damage, with the "liability" being monetary in nature, no

            Legally speaking, I think "liable" is different from "guilty." Liability is used for civli cases, guilt in criminal cases.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              https://www.reuters.com/legal/father-accused-july-4th-gunman-chicago-suburb-pleads-guilty-2023-11-06/

              An Illinois father pleaded guilty on Monday to multiple counts of reckless conduct for helping his troubled underage son obtain a gun that the latter used to kill seven people at a Fourth of July parade in 2022.

              Illinois Circuit Court Judge George Strickland sentenced Robert Crimo Jr. to two years of probation and 60 days in custody of the Lake County sheriff, as well as 100 hours of public service. The father of the accused shooter was also ordered to surrender his firearm owner identification card and any ammunition.

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                https://wgntv.com/news/highland-park-parade-shooting/highland-park-parade-shooting-robert-crimo-iii-court-10022024/

                For the second time in as many months, the man accused of opening fire on attendees at the 2022 Independence Day parade in Highland Park, killing seven and injuring dozens more, failed to appear for a scheduled court appearance.

                Judge Victoria Rosetti warned attorneys representing Robert Crimo III that if he doesn’t appear at his next court date, proceedings will continue without him and he will waive his right to confront any witnesses against him. Crimo last month refused to leave his jail cell when informed by corrections staff that he was due in court.

                Crimo has not appeared in court since June when he rejected a plea deal.

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