Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade
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@Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:
Gun used?
Kel-tec Sub 2000.
That's interesting...
That's made like 3mi from where I lived when I was my son's current age. My best friend from that era has worked for George for decades.
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@Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:
Kel-tec Sub 2000.
That's interesting...OK, for us ignoranti, 'splain, please!
@George-K said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:
@Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:
Kel-tec Sub 2000.
That's interesting...OK, for us ignoranti, 'splain, please!
Pistol caliber (most likely 9x19) folding carbine. Like most Kel-tec stuff, very innovative, but a lot of plastic and not always great build quality. Takes Glock mags, which means you can get an extended 33 rounder. One of the shortest videos I saw on the weapon, FF to about 3:20 to watch them shooting it...
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A grand jury indicted Crimo in February on seven counts of reckless conduct, one for each person his 19-year-old son killed in the attack, after he sponsored his son's Firearm Owners Identification application, which allowed him to buy the AR-15-style weapon he used.
Prosecutors have pointed out that by signing the document, Crimo agreed to be "liable for any damages resulting from the minor applicant’s use of firearms or firearm ammunition."
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It was his choice, no?
Prosecutors have pointed out that by signing the document, Crimo agreed to be "liable for any damages resulting from the minor applicant’s use of firearms or firearm ammunition."
As we used to say on Wall Street, sometimes the risk shows up.
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I suppose it's the equivalent of co-signing your kid's loan or credit card or rental application, you are on the hook if you kid becomes delinquent or trashed his rental. But still, "liable for damage" usually means property damage, with the "liability" being monetary in nature, no? Loss of personal freedom is rather different in nature.
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I suppose it's the equivalent of co-signing your kid's loan or credit card or rental application, you are on the hook if you kid becomes delinquent or trashed his rental. But still, "liable for damage" usually means property damage, with the "liability" being monetary in nature, no? Loss of personal freedom is rather different in nature.
@Axtremus said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:
"liable for damage" usually means property damage, with the "liability" being monetary in nature, no
Legally speaking, I think "liable" is different from "guilty." Liability is used for civli cases, guilt in criminal cases.
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An Illinois father pleaded guilty on Monday to multiple counts of reckless conduct for helping his troubled underage son obtain a gun that the latter used to kill seven people at a Fourth of July parade in 2022.
Illinois Circuit Court Judge George Strickland sentenced Robert Crimo Jr. to two years of probation and 60 days in custody of the Lake County sheriff, as well as 100 hours of public service. The father of the accused shooter was also ordered to surrender his firearm owner identification card and any ammunition.
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For the second time in as many months, the man accused of opening fire on attendees at the 2022 Independence Day parade in Highland Park, killing seven and injuring dozens more, failed to appear for a scheduled court appearance.
Judge Victoria Rosetti warned attorneys representing Robert Crimo III that if he doesn’t appear at his next court date, proceedings will continue without him and he will waive his right to confront any witnesses against him. Crimo last month refused to leave his jail cell when informed by corrections staff that he was due in court.
Crimo has not appeared in court since June when he rejected a plea deal.
