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  • D Doctor Phibes
    5 Jul 2022, 12:14

    @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

    Sorry, in a society that is celebrating the fucked-up as desirable, this is what you get.

    Seems to me there's there's a million reasons this can happen. We've blamed it on Muslims, white supremacists, computer gamers, gun owners, and now apparently it's trans folk.

    Maybe pointing the finger at some group every time there's a tragedy like this isn't the best response?

    At the very least, blaming a group we don't like doesn't seem to have improved things much as far as I can tell.

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    Jolly
    wrote on 5 Jul 2022, 16:42 last edited by
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    @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

    @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

    Sorry, in a society that is celebrating the fucked-up as desirable, this is what you get.

    Seems to me there's there's a million reasons this can happen. We've blamed it on Muslims, white supremacists, computer gamers, gun owners, and now apparently it's trans folk.

    Maybe pointing the finger at some group every time there's a tragedy like this isn't the best response?

    At the very least, blaming a group we don't like doesn't seem to have improved things much as far as I can tell.

    Look at the kid. Look at his videos.

    He's fucked up.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • J Jolly
      5 Jul 2022, 16:42

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

      @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

      Sorry, in a society that is celebrating the fucked-up as desirable, this is what you get.

      Seems to me there's there's a million reasons this can happen. We've blamed it on Muslims, white supremacists, computer gamers, gun owners, and now apparently it's trans folk.

      Maybe pointing the finger at some group every time there's a tragedy like this isn't the best response?

      At the very least, blaming a group we don't like doesn't seem to have improved things much as far as I can tell.

      Look at the kid. Look at his videos.

      He's fucked up.

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 5 Jul 2022, 16:45 last edited by Doctor Phibes 7 May 2022, 16:46
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      @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

      @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

      Sorry, in a society that is celebrating the fucked-up as desirable, this is what you get.

      Seems to me there's there's a million reasons this can happen. We've blamed it on Muslims, white supremacists, computer gamers, gun owners, and now apparently it's trans folk.

      Maybe pointing the finger at some group every time there's a tragedy like this isn't the best response?

      At the very least, blaming a group we don't like doesn't seem to have improved things much as far as I can tell.

      Look at the kid. Look at his videos.

      He's fucked up.

      Everybody who kills lots of people in a mass shooting is fucked up in one way or another - it's a prerequisite. The last school shooting was initially blamed on the guy being trans, except of course it turns out he wasn't. Somebody else immediately assumed the guy in Denmark was a Muslim, except of course he wasn't.

      I was only joking

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      • D Doctor Phibes
        5 Jul 2022, 12:14

        @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

        Sorry, in a society that is celebrating the fucked-up as desirable, this is what you get.

        Seems to me there's there's a million reasons this can happen. We've blamed it on Muslims, white supremacists, computer gamers, gun owners, and now apparently it's trans folk.

        Maybe pointing the finger at some group every time there's a tragedy like this isn't the best response?

        At the very least, blaming a group we don't like doesn't seem to have improved things much as far as I can tell.

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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on 5 Jul 2022, 16:54 last edited by Aqua Letifer 7 May 2022, 16:55
        #23

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

        @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

        Sorry, in a society that is celebrating the fucked-up as desirable, this is what you get.

        Seems to me there's there's a million reasons this can happen. We've blamed it on Muslims, white supremacists, computer gamers, gun owners, and now apparently it's trans folk.

        Maybe pointing the finger at some group every time there's a tragedy like this isn't the best response?

        At the very least, blaming a group we don't like doesn't seem to have improved things much as far as I can tell.

        1. Modern life is screwy in ways that are unique to our time. But like always, there exist toxic subcultures that do more harm to people than good. (No, I don't think transgenderism per se is a toxic subculture. But they do have their share of toxic participants, and any objective analysis would demonstrate that. You can say the same about Christian Fundamenalists or Muslims if you like, the point is the same.)
        2. Mass shootings are a social contagion. In the 1500s it was witch hunts. A hundred years later, it was the Dancing Plague. Today, we have mass shootings.

        Without knowing the specifics, I feel comfortable saying this person probably suffers from both of the above.

        Please love yourself.

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          George K
          wrote on 5 Jul 2022, 17:53 last edited by George K 7 May 2022, 17:54
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          Suspect Was Disguised as a Woman, Police Say

          Police said a 21-year-old man disguised himself as a woman as he carried out a carefully planned attack on a Fourth of July parade that left six people dead and 34 injured in the Chicago suburb of Highland Park.

          The suspect was taken into custody Monday evening and identified as Robert E. Crimo III. Charges are pending as police investigate the attack, said Chris Covelli, spokesman for the major crimes task force in surrounding Lake County.

          “Crimo was dressed in a woman’s clothing and investigators do believe he did this to conceal his identity and help blend in with other people who were fleeing the chaos,” Mr. Covelli said.

          Mr. Covelli said Mr. Crimo, who authorities had earlier said was 22 years old, planned the attack for several weeks and legally purchased a high-powered rifle in the greater Chicago area that he allegedly abandoned at the scene. The rifle was one of four firearms the gunman bought legally and recently, according to two law-enforcement officials familiar with the investigation.

          Mr. Crimo climbed onto the roof of a building using a fire-escape ladder and fired more than 70 rounds during the attack, Mr. Covelli said. He escaped down the ladder before police could apprehend him, Mr. Covelli said, and made his way to his mother’s nearby house, where he borrowed her car.

          Mr. Covelli said an alert citizen saw Mr. Crimo driving in his mother’s Honda Fit on a nearby road Monday evening and called 911, leading to his arrest.

          Mr. Crimo was an aspiring rapper who used the stage name Awake the Rapper, according to videos viewed by The Wall Street Journal. In one video, since taken down by YouTube, Mr. Crimo sings, “I know what I have to do.” The video is accompanied by drawings of a person pointing a rifle at another person with his hands up. Another scene shows a drawing of a man bleeding from a chest wound.

          Gio Montenegro, who lives near Mr. Crimo’s residence in Highwood, a suburb north of Highland Park, described Mr. Crimo as a loner and antisocial. He said he would ride around the neighborhood on an electric bike blasting techno music on a speaker wearing a black helmet, goggles covering his eyes, a black mask and black clothing. “He didn’t speak to anyone,” Mr. Montenegro said.

          Mr. Crimo’s father is well-known and respected, said Mr. Montenegro. He owned a deli in Highland Park and once ran for mayor. Mr. Crimo’s uncle told reporters that he saw his nephew the day before the shooting. “There were no signs that I saw that would make him do this,” Paul Crimo told CNN on Monday after his nephew was taken into custody in connection with the shooting.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 5 Jul 2022, 19:12 last edited by
            #25

            The mass shooting in Highland Park was the fourth in Illinois since Friday in which at least four people were struck, according to the Gun Violence Archive.

            Four mass shootings in four days in IL alone.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • G George K
              5 Jul 2022, 17:53

              Suspect Was Disguised as a Woman, Police Say

              Police said a 21-year-old man disguised himself as a woman as he carried out a carefully planned attack on a Fourth of July parade that left six people dead and 34 injured in the Chicago suburb of Highland Park.

              The suspect was taken into custody Monday evening and identified as Robert E. Crimo III. Charges are pending as police investigate the attack, said Chris Covelli, spokesman for the major crimes task force in surrounding Lake County.

              “Crimo was dressed in a woman’s clothing and investigators do believe he did this to conceal his identity and help blend in with other people who were fleeing the chaos,” Mr. Covelli said.

              Mr. Covelli said Mr. Crimo, who authorities had earlier said was 22 years old, planned the attack for several weeks and legally purchased a high-powered rifle in the greater Chicago area that he allegedly abandoned at the scene. The rifle was one of four firearms the gunman bought legally and recently, according to two law-enforcement officials familiar with the investigation.

              Mr. Crimo climbed onto the roof of a building using a fire-escape ladder and fired more than 70 rounds during the attack, Mr. Covelli said. He escaped down the ladder before police could apprehend him, Mr. Covelli said, and made his way to his mother’s nearby house, where he borrowed her car.

              Mr. Covelli said an alert citizen saw Mr. Crimo driving in his mother’s Honda Fit on a nearby road Monday evening and called 911, leading to his arrest.

              Mr. Crimo was an aspiring rapper who used the stage name Awake the Rapper, according to videos viewed by The Wall Street Journal. In one video, since taken down by YouTube, Mr. Crimo sings, “I know what I have to do.” The video is accompanied by drawings of a person pointing a rifle at another person with his hands up. Another scene shows a drawing of a man bleeding from a chest wound.

              Gio Montenegro, who lives near Mr. Crimo’s residence in Highwood, a suburb north of Highland Park, described Mr. Crimo as a loner and antisocial. He said he would ride around the neighborhood on an electric bike blasting techno music on a speaker wearing a black helmet, goggles covering his eyes, a black mask and black clothing. “He didn’t speak to anyone,” Mr. Montenegro said.

              Mr. Crimo’s father is well-known and respected, said Mr. Montenegro. He owned a deli in Highland Park and once ran for mayor. Mr. Crimo’s uncle told reporters that he saw his nephew the day before the shooting. “There were no signs that I saw that would make him do this,” Paul Crimo told CNN on Monday after his nephew was taken into custody in connection with the shooting.

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              Horace
              wrote on 5 Jul 2022, 19:49 last edited by
              #26

              Police said a 21-year-old man disguised himself as a woman as he carried out a carefully planned attack on a Fourth of July parade that left six people dead and 34 injured in the Chicago suburb of Highland Park.

              If she identifies as a woman, then the clothes were not a disguise. The cruel disguise was, in fact, the penis she was born with.

              Education is extremely important.

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                George K
                wrote on 5 Jul 2022, 21:07 last edited by
                #27

                No red flags there. Nope, none at all.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • G George K
                  5 Jul 2022, 17:53

                  Suspect Was Disguised as a Woman, Police Say

                  Police said a 21-year-old man disguised himself as a woman as he carried out a carefully planned attack on a Fourth of July parade that left six people dead and 34 injured in the Chicago suburb of Highland Park.

                  The suspect was taken into custody Monday evening and identified as Robert E. Crimo III. Charges are pending as police investigate the attack, said Chris Covelli, spokesman for the major crimes task force in surrounding Lake County.

                  “Crimo was dressed in a woman’s clothing and investigators do believe he did this to conceal his identity and help blend in with other people who were fleeing the chaos,” Mr. Covelli said.

                  Mr. Covelli said Mr. Crimo, who authorities had earlier said was 22 years old, planned the attack for several weeks and legally purchased a high-powered rifle in the greater Chicago area that he allegedly abandoned at the scene. The rifle was one of four firearms the gunman bought legally and recently, according to two law-enforcement officials familiar with the investigation.

                  Mr. Crimo climbed onto the roof of a building using a fire-escape ladder and fired more than 70 rounds during the attack, Mr. Covelli said. He escaped down the ladder before police could apprehend him, Mr. Covelli said, and made his way to his mother’s nearby house, where he borrowed her car.

                  Mr. Covelli said an alert citizen saw Mr. Crimo driving in his mother’s Honda Fit on a nearby road Monday evening and called 911, leading to his arrest.

                  Mr. Crimo was an aspiring rapper who used the stage name Awake the Rapper, according to videos viewed by The Wall Street Journal. In one video, since taken down by YouTube, Mr. Crimo sings, “I know what I have to do.” The video is accompanied by drawings of a person pointing a rifle at another person with his hands up. Another scene shows a drawing of a man bleeding from a chest wound.

                  Gio Montenegro, who lives near Mr. Crimo’s residence in Highwood, a suburb north of Highland Park, described Mr. Crimo as a loner and antisocial. He said he would ride around the neighborhood on an electric bike blasting techno music on a speaker wearing a black helmet, goggles covering his eyes, a black mask and black clothing. “He didn’t speak to anyone,” Mr. Montenegro said.

                  Mr. Crimo’s father is well-known and respected, said Mr. Montenegro. He owned a deli in Highland Park and once ran for mayor. Mr. Crimo’s uncle told reporters that he saw his nephew the day before the shooting. “There were no signs that I saw that would make him do this,” Paul Crimo told CNN on Monday after his nephew was taken into custody in connection with the shooting.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 5 Jul 2022, 21:29 last edited by
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                  @George-K said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                  Suspect Was Disguised as a Woman, Police Say

                  Police said a 21-year-old man disguised himself as a woman as he carried out a carefully planned attack on a Fourth of July parade that left six people dead and 34 injured in the Chicago suburb of Highland Park.

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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 5 Jul 2022, 21:51 last edited by
                    #29

                    Fucked up

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • J Jolly
                      5 Jul 2022, 21:51

                      Fucked up

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                      George K
                      wrote on 5 Jul 2022, 21:54 last edited by
                      #30

                      @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                      Fucked up

                      Yes, but the thought of disguising yourself as a woman vagina owner menstruating person ovary owner someone who would blend in was probably a good idea.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                      J jon-nycJ 2 Replies Last reply 5 Jul 2022, 21:56
                      • G George K
                        5 Jul 2022, 21:54

                        @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                        Fucked up

                        Yes, but the thought of disguising yourself as a woman vagina owner menstruating person ovary owner someone who would blend in was probably a good idea.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 5 Jul 2022, 21:56 last edited by
                        #31

                        @George-K Madness does not preclude intelligence.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 5 Jul 2022, 22:11 last edited by
                          #32

                          BTW, was it ever determined if he was Antifa or a sympathizer?

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • G George K
                            5 Jul 2022, 21:54

                            @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                            Fucked up

                            Yes, but the thought of disguising yourself as a woman vagina owner menstruating person ovary owner someone who would blend in was probably a good idea.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 03:48 last edited by
                            #33

                            @George-K said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                            @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                            Fucked up

                            Yes, but the thought of disguising yourself as a woman vagina owner menstruating person ovary owner someone who would blend in was probably a good idea.

                            Worked for Jeff Davis, right Jolly?

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 03:48 last edited by
                              #34

                              Shit parents.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                              RenaudaR 1 Reply Last reply 7 Jul 2022, 15:51
                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc
                                6 Jul 2022, 03:48

                                @George-K said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                Fucked up

                                Yes, but the thought of disguising yourself as a woman vagina owner menstruating person ovary owner someone who would blend in was probably a good idea.

                                Worked for Jeff Davis, right Jolly?

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 04:39 last edited by
                                #35

                                @jon-nyc said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                @George-K said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                Fucked up

                                Yes, but the thought of disguising yourself as a woman vagina owner menstruating person ovary owner someone who would blend in was probably a good idea.

                                Worked for Jeff Davis, right Jolly?

                                Not as I remember.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 09:16 last edited by
                                  #36

                                  Ugh. Just read about a bloodstained toddler found among his dead parents. He’s unhurt but orphaned by this whack job.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  • J Jolly
                                    5 Jul 2022, 22:11

                                    BTW, was it ever determined if he was Antifa or a sympathizer?

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 11:35 last edited by
                                    #37

                                    @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                    BTW, was it ever determined if he was Antifa or a sympathizer?

                                    The interviews I heard this morning indicated that he didn't seem to have a political ideology.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 11:42 last edited by
                                      #38

                                      One more time...

                                      We've always had firearms. We've had magazine fed, centerfire, semi-autos readily available since the early 1900's for pistols and the 1950's for rifles.

                                      Why have mass shootings become so commonplace today?

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 12:03 last edited by
                                        #39

                                        Isolation and powerlessness.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          wrote on 6 Jul 2022, 12:11 last edited by
                                          #40

                                          Overcrowding. Cumulative effects of poor nutrition creating brain imbalances not readily apparent to outsiders until -- boom.

                                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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