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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    Why do mass shootings appear to be so much more common in the USA?

    I know there are examples of it happening elsewhere, but it certainly seems like this is particularly a problem here.

    It seems like this is an important question to ask. Other countries have isolation, overcrowding, poor nutrition and so on.

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    Catseye3
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    #46

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

    It seems like this is an important question to ask. Other countries have isolation, overcrowding, poor nutrition and so on.

    Gun culture. America kind of grew up with guns. Maybe guns are in our DNA. That is, when frustration arises, Americans are quicker to look to their guns as problem solvers than other countries or cultures, because guns have always been there.

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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    • Catseye3C Catseye3

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

      It seems like this is an important question to ask. Other countries have isolation, overcrowding, poor nutrition and so on.

      Gun culture. America kind of grew up with guns. Maybe guns are in our DNA. That is, when frustration arises, Americans are quicker to look to their guns as problem solvers than other countries or cultures, because guns have always been there.

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      Doctor Phibes
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      #47

      @Catseye3 said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

      It seems like this is an important question to ask. Other countries have isolation, overcrowding, poor nutrition and so on.

      Gun culture. America kind of grew up with guns. Maybe guns are in our DNA. That is, when frustration arises, Americans are quicker to look to their guns as problem solvers than other countries or cultures, because guns have always been there.

      That's clearly one answer. There might be other things, too.

      I was only joking

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        • Catseye3C Catseye3

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

          It seems like this is an important question to ask. Other countries have isolation, overcrowding, poor nutrition and so on.

          Gun culture. America kind of grew up with guns. Maybe guns are in our DNA. That is, when frustration arises, Americans are quicker to look to their guns as problem solvers than other countries or cultures, because guns have always been there.

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          Jolly
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          #49

          @Catseye3 said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

          It seems like this is an important question to ask. Other countries have isolation, overcrowding, poor nutrition and so on.

          Gun culture. America kind of grew up with guns. Maybe guns are in our DNA. That is, when frustration arises, Americans are quicker to look to their guns as problem solvers than other countries or cultures, because guns have always been there.

          I would say so, but much of the rural South is awash in firearms. I'm not talking two or three, I'm talking eight or ten, common. Twenty doesn't even raise an eyebrow.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

            @George-K said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

            I only could stand about 4 minutes of it, but Carlson went on a rant blaming Prozac and other SSRIs.

            Yeah, there isn't a single topic in the world that guy isn't a fucking expert on.

            Yeah, but sometimes he's right.

            Is he right about the drugs?

            I have no idea, and I probably know as much as he does about these drugs. Actually, a little more, as I do have personal experience with them.

            Why should I listen to Tucker Carlson any more than I should listen to, say, some loudmouth guy down the shops?

            JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            #50

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

            @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

            @George-K said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

            I only could stand about 4 minutes of it, but Carlson went on a rant blaming Prozac and other SSRIs.

            Yeah, there isn't a single topic in the world that guy isn't a fucking expert on.

            Yeah, but sometimes he's right.

            Is he right about the drugs?

            I have no idea, and I probably know as much as he does about these drugs. Actually, a little more, as I do have personal experience with them.

            Why should I listen to Tucker Carlson any more than I should listen to, say, some loudmouth guy down the shops?

            Because he talks to few million more people than the guy down at the shops and he has hordes fact-checking every word out of his mouth.

            And to put it very bluntly, if you don't think we have a problem medicating children at the rate we are now, you are simply not aware of the problem or are choosing to willfully ignore it.

            I think that the over-medication problem is a fact. The question is whether it is a contributing factor to mass shootings.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

              @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

              @George-K said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

              I only could stand about 4 minutes of it, but Carlson went on a rant blaming Prozac and other SSRIs.

              Yeah, there isn't a single topic in the world that guy isn't a fucking expert on.

              Yeah, but sometimes he's right.

              Is he right about the drugs?

              I have no idea, and I probably know as much as he does about these drugs. Actually, a little more, as I do have personal experience with them.

              Why should I listen to Tucker Carlson any more than I should listen to, say, some loudmouth guy down the shops?

              Because he talks to few million more people than the guy down at the shops and he has hordes fact-checking every word out of his mouth.

              And to put it very bluntly, if you don't think we have a problem medicating children at the rate we are now, you are simply not aware of the problem or are choosing to willfully ignore it.

              I think that the over-medication problem is a fact. The question is whether it is a contributing factor to mass shootings.

              AxtremusA Away
              AxtremusA Away
              Axtremus
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              #51

              @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

              Why should I listen to Tucker Carlson any more than I should listen to, say, some loudmouth guy down the shops?

              Because he talks to few million more people than the guy down at the shops and he has hordes fact-checking every word out of his mouth.

              And still Tucker Carlson has racked up piss poor record with the facts.
              See https://www.politifact.com/personalities/tucker-carlson/

              Given that track record, maybe you should trust a random loudmouth guy down the shops more than you trust Carlson.

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                Why should I listen to Tucker Carlson any more than I should listen to, say, some loudmouth guy down the shops?

                Because he talks to few million more people than the guy down at the shops and he has hordes fact-checking every word out of his mouth.

                And still Tucker Carlson has racked up piss poor record with the facts.
                See https://www.politifact.com/personalities/tucker-carlson/

                Given that track record, maybe you should trust a random loudmouth guy down the shops more than you trust Carlson.

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                Jolly
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                #52

                @Axtremus said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                Why should I listen to Tucker Carlson any more than I should listen to, say, some loudmouth guy down the shops?

                Because he talks to few million more people than the guy down at the shops and he has hordes fact-checking every word out of his mouth.

                And still Tucker Carlson has racked up piss poor record with the facts.
                See https://www.politifact.com/personalities/tucker-carlson/

                Given that track record, maybe you should trust a random loudmouth guy down the shops more than you trust Carlson.

                You can cherry-pick anything. I can cobble up enough of your dribble to convince folks that you are a lying prick with no social graces whatsoever. If anybody talks long enough and addresses any controversial subject, anybody can be accused of such.

                Tucker is on the air five days a week, one hour per day. More on Fox Nation.

                If he's wrong 5% of the time, that means he's right 95%.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @Axtremus said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                  @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                  Why should I listen to Tucker Carlson any more than I should listen to, say, some loudmouth guy down the shops?

                  Because he talks to few million more people than the guy down at the shops and he has hordes fact-checking every word out of his mouth.

                  And still Tucker Carlson has racked up piss poor record with the facts.
                  See https://www.politifact.com/personalities/tucker-carlson/

                  Given that track record, maybe you should trust a random loudmouth guy down the shops more than you trust Carlson.

                  You can cherry-pick anything. I can cobble up enough of your dribble to convince folks that you are a lying prick with no social graces whatsoever. If anybody talks long enough and addresses any controversial subject, anybody can be accused of such.

                  Tucker is on the air five days a week, one hour per day. More on Fox Nation.

                  If he's wrong 5% of the time, that means he's right 95%.

                  AxtremusA Away
                  AxtremusA Away
                  Axtremus
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                  #53

                  @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                  @Axtremus said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                  @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                  Why should I listen to Tucker Carlson any more than I should listen to, say, some loudmouth guy down the shops?

                  Because he talks to few million more people than the guy down at the shops and he has hordes fact-checking every word out of his mouth.

                  And still Tucker Carlson has racked up piss poor record with the facts.
                  See https://www.politifact.com/personalities/tucker-carlson/

                  Given that track record, maybe you should trust a random loudmouth guy down the shops more than you trust Carlson.

                  You can cherry-pick anything. I can cobble up enough of your dribble to convince folks that you are a lying prick with no social graces whatsoever. If anybody talks long enough and addresses any controversial subject, anybody can be accused of such.

                  Tucker is on the air five days a week, one hour per day. More on Fox Nation.

                  If he's wrong 5% of the time, that means he's right 95%.

                  The stats say his claims are 89% “mostly false,” “false,” and “pants on fire.”

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                    If I had a any proclivity toward being a hermit before, all of this crap makes it seem like the correct attitude in our "modern, civilized" world.

                    Last night, I moved the .45ACP into a more strategic location, along with a few magazines full of Hornady, Critical Defense rounds. It was too close to an entry door for my liking. The .22 is also in a nice strategic place. In all my 60 years of life, I have never had even a hint of activity that would require me to defend myself with a gun.

                    I loved the science of ammo, guns, with typical gear-head like enthusiasm. I no longer have any of that enthusiasm, but I am glad I own a few guns. Still need to get that shotgun I have been talking about for a few years.

                    In our "modern, civilized" world.

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      Why do mass shootings appear to be so much more common in the USA?

                      I know there are examples of it happening elsewhere, but it certainly seems like this is particularly a problem here.

                      It seems like this is an important question to ask. Other countries have isolation, overcrowding, poor nutrition and so on.

                      CopperC Offline
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                      Copper
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #55

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                      Why do mass shootings appear to be so much more common in the USA?

                      Because the other countries that have way more mass shootings than us report them in Spanish, we don't understand.

                      And we don't really care about those countries.

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                        @Axtremus said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                        @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                        Why should I listen to Tucker Carlson any more than I should listen to, say, some loudmouth guy down the shops?

                        Because he talks to few million more people than the guy down at the shops and he has hordes fact-checking every word out of his mouth.

                        And still Tucker Carlson has racked up piss poor record with the facts.
                        See https://www.politifact.com/personalities/tucker-carlson/

                        Given that track record, maybe you should trust a random loudmouth guy down the shops more than you trust Carlson.

                        You can cherry-pick anything. I can cobble up enough of your dribble to convince folks that you are a lying prick with no social graces whatsoever. If anybody talks long enough and addresses any controversial subject, anybody can be accused of such.

                        Tucker is on the air five days a week, one hour per day. More on Fox Nation.

                        If he's wrong 5% of the time, that means he's right 95%.

                        The stats say his claims are 89% “mostly false,” “false,” and “pants on fire.”

                        CopperC Offline
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                        Copper
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                        #56

                        @Axtremus said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                        The stats say his claims are 89% “mostly false,” “false,” and “pants on fire.”

                        politifacts is pure political trash, correct roughly 2 or 3% of the time.

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                          X Offline
                          xenon
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                          #57

                          Seems like a form of public suicide + as Aqua mentioned yesterday, social contagion.

                          I think much, much, much stronger gun control could curb this around the edges - but it won't make the problem go away.

                          The underlying problem is probably the same as what's driving suicide rates up - isolation and loneliness.

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                          • X xenon

                            Seems like a form of public suicide + as Aqua mentioned yesterday, social contagion.

                            I think much, much, much stronger gun control could curb this around the edges - but it won't make the problem go away.

                            The underlying problem is probably the same as what's driving suicide rates up - isolation and loneliness.

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                            Catseye3
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                            @xenon said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                            isolation and loneliness.

                            In the midst of pressures from too many voices to do this and be that. Friendless, yet too many messages pressing too close.

                            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                            • CopperC Copper

                              @Axtremus said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                              The stats say his claims are 89% “mostly false,” “false,” and “pants on fire.”

                              politifacts is pure political trash, correct roughly 2 or 3% of the time.

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                              Jolly
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                              @Copper said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                              @Axtremus said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                              The stats say his claims are 89% “mostly false,” “false,” and “pants on fire.”

                              politifacts is pure political trash, correct roughly 2 or 3% of the time.

                              Shh! It's the only peg he can hang his argument on...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • X xenon

                                Seems like a form of public suicide + as Aqua mentioned yesterday, social contagion.

                                I think much, much, much stronger gun control could curb this around the edges - but it won't make the problem go away.

                                The underlying problem is probably the same as what's driving suicide rates up - isolation and loneliness.

                                JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #60

                                @xenon said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                Seems like a form of public suicide + as Aqua mentioned yesterday, social contagion.

                                I think much, much, much stronger gun control could curb this around the edges - but it won't make the problem go away.

                                The underlying problem is probably the same as what's driving suicide rates up - isolation and loneliness.

                                In a personal respect, the internet or multi-player role games are not real. I don't think they can cure lonliness.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  Indeed. Distraction is not equal to interaction.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                    @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                    @George-K said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                    I only could stand about 4 minutes of it, but Carlson went on a rant blaming Prozac and other SSRIs.

                                    Yeah, there isn't a single topic in the world that guy isn't a fucking expert on.

                                    Yeah, but sometimes he's right.

                                    Is he right about the drugs?

                                    I have no idea, and I probably know as much as he does about these drugs. Actually, a little more, as I do have personal experience with them.

                                    Why should I listen to Tucker Carlson any more than I should listen to, say, some loudmouth guy down the shops?

                                    Because he talks to few million more people than the guy down at the shops and he has hordes fact-checking every word out of his mouth.

                                    And to put it very bluntly, if you don't think we have a problem medicating children at the rate we are now, you are simply not aware of the problem or are choosing to willfully ignore it.

                                    I think that the over-medication problem is a fact. The question is whether it is a contributing factor to mass shootings.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
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                                    #62

                                    @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                    @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                    @George-K said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                    I only could stand about 4 minutes of it, but Carlson went on a rant blaming Prozac and other SSRIs.

                                    Yeah, there isn't a single topic in the world that guy isn't a fucking expert on.

                                    Yeah, but sometimes he's right.

                                    Is he right about the drugs?

                                    I have no idea, and I probably know as much as he does about these drugs. Actually, a little more, as I do have personal experience with them.

                                    Why should I listen to Tucker Carlson any more than I should listen to, say, some loudmouth guy down the shops?

                                    Because he talks to few million more people than the guy down at the shops and he has hordes fact-checking every word out of his mouth.

                                    And to put it very bluntly, if you don't think we have a problem medicating children at the rate we are now, you are simply not aware of the problem or are choosing to willfully ignore it.

                                    I think that the over-medication problem is a fact. The question is whether it is a contributing factor to mass shootings.

                                    Lashing out at things we don't like and blaming them for mass shootings seems to be a thing now.

                                    Maybe mass-shootings are caused by opinionated gob-shites talking incessantly about how awful the world is on 24 hour news channels?

                                    I somehow doubt that Tucker will run with that one.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                      @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                      @George-K said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                      I only could stand about 4 minutes of it, but Carlson went on a rant blaming Prozac and other SSRIs.

                                      Yeah, there isn't a single topic in the world that guy isn't a fucking expert on.

                                      Yeah, but sometimes he's right.

                                      Is he right about the drugs?

                                      I have no idea, and I probably know as much as he does about these drugs. Actually, a little more, as I do have personal experience with them.

                                      Why should I listen to Tucker Carlson any more than I should listen to, say, some loudmouth guy down the shops?

                                      Because he talks to few million more people than the guy down at the shops and he has hordes fact-checking every word out of his mouth.

                                      And to put it very bluntly, if you don't think we have a problem medicating children at the rate we are now, you are simply not aware of the problem or are choosing to willfully ignore it.

                                      I think that the over-medication problem is a fact. The question is whether it is a contributing factor to mass shootings.

                                      Lashing out at things we don't like and blaming them for mass shootings seems to be a thing now.

                                      Maybe mass-shootings are caused by opinionated gob-shites talking incessantly about how awful the world is on 24 hour news channels?

                                      I somehow doubt that Tucker will run with that one.

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                                      Jolly
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                                      #63

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                      @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                      @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                      @George-K said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                      I only could stand about 4 minutes of it, but Carlson went on a rant blaming Prozac and other SSRIs.

                                      Yeah, there isn't a single topic in the world that guy isn't a fucking expert on.

                                      Yeah, but sometimes he's right.

                                      Is he right about the drugs?

                                      I have no idea, and I probably know as much as he does about these drugs. Actually, a little more, as I do have personal experience with them.

                                      Why should I listen to Tucker Carlson any more than I should listen to, say, some loudmouth guy down the shops?

                                      Because he talks to few million more people than the guy down at the shops and he has hordes fact-checking every word out of his mouth.

                                      And to put it very bluntly, if you don't think we have a problem medicating children at the rate we are now, you are simply not aware of the problem or are choosing to willfully ignore it.

                                      I think that the over-medication problem is a fact. The question is whether it is a contributing factor to mass shootings.

                                      Lashing out at things we don't like and blaming them for mass shootings seems to be a thing now.

                                      Maybe mass-shootings are caused by opinionated gob-shites talking incessantly about how awful the world is on 24 hour news channels?

                                      I somehow doubt that Tucker will run with that one.

                                      You're not a serious man, are you? You're so fixated on what you don't like, you won't consider what is happening right under your own nose.

                                      There are some school districts that are medicating almost 2 out of every 10 boys in the classroom.

                                      Tucker aside, you find no problem with that? And you don't think that much psychological intervention at elementary school levels, doesn't have deleterious consequences?

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        "I confess."

                                        The man accused of killing seven people attending a parade in Highland Park, Illinois, on the Fourth of July has confessed to his role in the massacre, a prosecutor said Wednesday.

                                        Robert “Bobby” E. Crimo III, 21, made his confession in a voluntary statement, according to officials. He has been charged with seven counts of first-degree murder and will likely face more counts over the dozens injured during Monday's attack, the prosecutor announced.

                                        "He went into details about what he had done," Lake County State’s Attorney Eric Rinehart told reporters outside of the county courthouse. "He admitted to what he had done. We don't want to speculate on motives right now."

                                        Police also revealed that after the shooting, Crimo had considered carrying out another attack at a celebration in Madison, Wisconsin. Crimo arrived at the event in Wisconsin but indications are that he had not put in enough thought and research to conduct the attack, Deputy Chief Christopher Covelli said. Crimo ditched his phone while in the Madison area, which was recovered by the FBI on Tuesday, Covelli said.

                                        Crimo's arraignment will likely be in August, and he will be represented in court by the public defender's office, Rinehart said. "Many more charges" will be brought against Crimo, and for every person hurt in the attack, an attempted murder charge and an aggravated battery with a firearm charge will be brought against him, Rinehart said.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                          @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                          @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                          @George-K said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                          I only could stand about 4 minutes of it, but Carlson went on a rant blaming Prozac and other SSRIs.

                                          Yeah, there isn't a single topic in the world that guy isn't a fucking expert on.

                                          Yeah, but sometimes he's right.

                                          Is he right about the drugs?

                                          I have no idea, and I probably know as much as he does about these drugs. Actually, a little more, as I do have personal experience with them.

                                          Why should I listen to Tucker Carlson any more than I should listen to, say, some loudmouth guy down the shops?

                                          Because he talks to few million more people than the guy down at the shops and he has hordes fact-checking every word out of his mouth.

                                          And to put it very bluntly, if you don't think we have a problem medicating children at the rate we are now, you are simply not aware of the problem or are choosing to willfully ignore it.

                                          I think that the over-medication problem is a fact. The question is whether it is a contributing factor to mass shootings.

                                          Lashing out at things we don't like and blaming them for mass shootings seems to be a thing now.

                                          Maybe mass-shootings are caused by opinionated gob-shites talking incessantly about how awful the world is on 24 hour news channels?

                                          I somehow doubt that Tucker will run with that one.

                                          You're not a serious man, are you? You're so fixated on what you don't like, you won't consider what is happening right under your own nose.

                                          There are some school districts that are medicating almost 2 out of every 10 boys in the classroom.

                                          Tucker aside, you find no problem with that? And you don't think that much psychological intervention at elementary school levels, doesn't have deleterious consequences?

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                                          @Jolly said in Mass shooting at Highland Park 4th parade:

                                          You're not a serious man, are you? You're so fixated on what you don't like, you won't consider what is happening right under your own nose.

                                          There are some school districts that are medicating almost 2 out of every 10 boys in the classroom.

                                          Tucker aside, you find no problem with that? And you don't think that much psychological intervention at elementary school levels, doesn't have deleterious consequences?

                                          There are many problems facing us all, and I would discuss them seriously if I thought it was worthwhile. As I said, I have personal experience of ADHD and its treatment. I'm sure you're right that Ritalin is over-prescribed, but it can also be very helpful with quite serious problems, and the generalization of kids being doped up to the eyeballs isn't an accurate description of my own experience.

                                          Tucker isn't really helping with his ranting. Tom Cruise goes on a lot about over-medication, too.

                                          I was only joking

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