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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on last edited by
    #16

    I agree with @Doctor-Phibes Boycotts of a specific store (or something similar) usually do not work very well.

    The majority of Peoples values and their willingness to follow them only goes so far, maybe unfortunately.

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    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

      I agree with @Doctor-Phibes Boycotts of a specific store (or something similar) usually do not work very well.

      The majority of Peoples values and their willingness to follow them only goes so far, maybe unfortunately.

      JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #17

      @taiwan_girl said in Sod Off:

      I agree with @Doctor-Phibes Boycotts of a specific store (or something similar) usually do not work very well.

      The majority of Peoples values and their willingness to follow them only goes so far, maybe unfortunately.

      I can't speak for Scotland, but the bank business in the U.S. is so competitive, you don't want to lose customers for stupid reasons.

      Ask Disney how some of the woke stuff is working out for them. OTOH, probably the least woke movie of the summer just passed $1B in revenue, and is still making money. If there's anything Hollywood respects, it's a dollar.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @taiwan_girl said in Sod Off:

        I agree with @Doctor-Phibes Boycotts of a specific store (or something similar) usually do not work very well.

        The majority of Peoples values and their willingness to follow them only goes so far, maybe unfortunately.

        I can't speak for Scotland, but the bank business in the U.S. is so competitive, you don't want to lose customers for stupid reasons.

        Ask Disney how some of the woke stuff is working out for them. OTOH, probably the least woke movie of the summer just passed $1B in revenue, and is still making money. If there's anything Hollywood respects, it's a dollar.

        taiwan_girlT Offline
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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on last edited by
        #18

        @Jolly Maybe banks are different, but others ones don't have much affect.

        Dick's Sporting Goods -
        ACTION: Stop Selling Guns
        RESPONSE: Boycott
        RESULT: Stock price/earning double

        Chicken Filet -
        ACTION: Mean against LGBTQ etc
        RESPONSE: Boycott
        RESULT: None. Sales increase

        Nike-
        ACTION: Uses slave labor to make shoes
        RESPONSE: Boycott
        RESULT: Sales increase

        UK Bank
        ACTION: Gender names on name tags
        RESPONSE: BOycott and change banks
        RESULT: TBD (but 95% chance no change to # of customers or bank profit)

        etc

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #19

          IOW, people have no morals.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • taiwan_girlT Offline
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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on last edited by
            #20

            Basi ally, LOL

            When is comes to consumer things,

            prices >>> morals

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            • MikM Offline
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              Mik
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              #21

              I hate organized boycotts of things. It's a horrible, horrible precedent for a free nation. If you don't like a business, don't patronize it. But don't try to get people en masse to do likewise to hurt the business. Who you are really hurting is the employees and the many people who may own stock in them.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @taiwan_girl said in Sod Off:

                I agree with @Doctor-Phibes Boycotts of a specific store (or something similar) usually do not work very well.

                The majority of Peoples values and their willingness to follow them only goes so far, maybe unfortunately.

                I can't speak for Scotland, but the bank business in the U.S. is so competitive, you don't want to lose customers for stupid reasons.

                Ask Disney how some of the woke stuff is working out for them. OTOH, probably the least woke movie of the summer just passed $1B in revenue, and is still making money. If there's anything Hollywood respects, it's a dollar.

                Doctor PhibesD Online
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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on last edited by
                #22

                @Jolly said in Sod Off:

                I can't speak for Scotland

                Whoa, there fellah. Them's fighting words.

                Halifax is from Yorkshire. You just referred to a Texan as a Yankee.

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @Mik said in Sod Off:

                  And they're not whining about it.

                  The people whining about it are the customers who don't like the freedom being given to the employees. The Halifax isn't forcing it on anybody.

                  In this case, it's the anti-woke bunch who are being all how-dare-you about things.

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                  Larry
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #23

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Sod Off:

                  @Mik said in Sod Off:

                  And they're not whining about it.

                  The people whining about it are the customers who don't like the freedom being given to the employees. The Halifax isn't forcing it on anybody.

                  In this case, it's the anti-woke bunch who are being all how-dare-you about things.

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Sod Off:

                  @Mik said in Sod Off:

                  And they're not whining about it.

                  The people whining about it are the customers who don't like the freedom being given to the employees. The Halifax isn't forcing it on anybody.

                  In this case, it's the anti-woke bunch who are being all how-dare-you about things.

                  So according to you, it's perfectly fine if the bank allows its employees to offend csome of its customers, but it's not ok for those customers to do their business elsewhere...... they should just suck it up and take it....

                  Somehow I think if the cause of this was that bank employers were passing out Christian reading material nd some of the customers went to other banks because of it your opinion would be the opposite of what it is now...

                  The bank, and its employees, have the right to call themselves whatever they want. The customers have just as much right to go somewhere else to do their banking.

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    Mik
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                    #24

                    The do not have the right to expect you to use pronouns that they pick for themselves. I will never go along with that. it's just stupid. This is a series of pics my niece posted. The whole world should adapt to trans people's desires, and feel bad if they don't do it right.

                    Sheer idiocy.

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                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • Catseye3C Offline
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                      Catseye3
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #25

                      "Thank you for sharing your authentic self with me, I appreciate it"???

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                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by Jolly
                        #26

                        I shall say he, she, him, her. If they don't like it, they can kiss my natural born Southern ass.

                        I wasn't put on this earth to make deviants happy.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • Catseye3C Offline
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                          Catseye3
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #27

                          OTOH, it does present a problem. While I wouldn't use any of your niece's suggestions, I'm not sure what I'd say if someone tried to correct me. I don't want trans to insist to me that I use their preference; I equally don't want to be a belligerent asshole about it. That's just committing the same transgression* in reverse.

                          *See what I did there? 🙂

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          • JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by Jolly
                            #28

                            They can correct me. I'm not playing the game. Their delusions can end at the end of their nose.

                            There are times when one should be polite and go along to get along. There are other times where you can't make me conform to societal madness and I just flat-ass ain't doing it.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • LarryL Offline
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                              Larry
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #29

                              It's like the little creature I saw the other day at Taco Bell. I would have been uncomfortable calling that thing any pronoun..... son I said "what the fuck is it?..."

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                              • LarryL Larry

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Sod Off:

                                @Mik said in Sod Off:

                                And they're not whining about it.

                                The people whining about it are the customers who don't like the freedom being given to the employees. The Halifax isn't forcing it on anybody.

                                In this case, it's the anti-woke bunch who are being all how-dare-you about things.

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Sod Off:

                                @Mik said in Sod Off:

                                And they're not whining about it.

                                The people whining about it are the customers who don't like the freedom being given to the employees. The Halifax isn't forcing it on anybody.

                                In this case, it's the anti-woke bunch who are being all how-dare-you about things.

                                So according to you, it's perfectly fine if the bank allows its employees to offend csome of its customers, but it's not ok for those customers to do their business elsewhere...... they should just suck it up and take it....

                                Somehow I think if the cause of this was that bank employers were passing out Christian reading material nd some of the customers went to other banks because of it your opinion would be the opposite of what it is now...

                                The bank, and its employees, have the right to call themselves whatever they want. The customers have just as much right to go somewhere else to do their banking.

                                Doctor PhibesD Online
                                Doctor PhibesD Online
                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #30

                                @Larry said in Sod Off:

                                So according to you, it's perfectly fine if the bank allows its employees to offend csome of its customers, but it's not ok for those customers to do their business elsewhere...... they should just suck it up and take it....

                                No, they can leave if they want. That's fine, it's really up to them.

                                But I don't think they will. It's a lot easier to complain on the internet than it is to change banks.

                                I was only joking

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                                • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                  OTOH, it does present a problem. While I wouldn't use any of your niece's suggestions, I'm not sure what I'd say if someone tried to correct me. I don't want trans to insist to me that I use their preference; I equally don't want to be a belligerent asshole about it. That's just committing the same transgression* in reverse.

                                  *See what I did there? 🙂

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                  #31

                                  @Catseye3 said in Sod Off:

                                  OTOH, it does present a problem. While I wouldn't use any of your niece's suggestions, I'm not sure what I'd say if someone tried to correct me. I don't want trans to insist to me that I use their preference; I equally don't want to be a belligerent asshole about it. That's just committing the same transgression* in reverse.

                                  *See what I did there? 🙂

                                  The one time I have been corrected I responded by insisting that I refer to them as “comrade” and they refer to me by the same. It certainly ended the nonsense there and then.

                                  Elbows up!

                                  George KG taiwan_girlT 2 Replies Last reply
                                  • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                    OTOH, it does present a problem. While I wouldn't use any of your niece's suggestions, I'm not sure what I'd say if someone tried to correct me. I don't want trans to insist to me that I use their preference; I equally don't want to be a belligerent asshole about it. That's just committing the same transgression* in reverse.

                                    *See what I did there? 🙂

                                    MikM Offline
                                    MikM Offline
                                    Mik
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #32

                                    @Catseye3 said in Sod Off:

                                    OTOH, it does present a problem. While I wouldn't use any of your niece's suggestions, I'm not sure what I'd say if someone tried to correct me. I don't want trans to insist to me that I use their preference; I equally don't want to be a belligerent asshole about it. That's just committing the same transgression* in reverse.

                                    *See what I did there? 🙂

                                    I see your point, but the thing is I don't care enough to make any response to it. I would ignore it and go about my business. If they want to pursue it, THEN I do want to be a belligerent asshole.

                                    Like my cop uncle says - "I'd rather they think I'm an asshole, because then I don't have to be an asshole."

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      @Catseye3 said in Sod Off:

                                      OTOH, it does present a problem. While I wouldn't use any of your niece's suggestions, I'm not sure what I'd say if someone tried to correct me. I don't want trans to insist to me that I use their preference; I equally don't want to be a belligerent asshole about it. That's just committing the same transgression* in reverse.

                                      *See what I did there? 🙂

                                      I see your point, but the thing is I don't care enough to make any response to it. I would ignore it and go about my business. If they want to pursue it, THEN I do want to be a belligerent asshole.

                                      Like my cop uncle says - "I'd rather they think I'm an asshole, because then I don't have to be an asshole."

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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #33

                                      @Mik said in Sod Off:

                                      I would ignore it and go about my business.

                                      Yeah, I like this. Just ignore the correction and carry on.

                                      "You seem like a man who -- "
                                      "Woman. I'm a woman now."
                                      " -- likes the finer things in life, so I recommend etc etc."

                                      Then if they pursue it, say something like, "I don't want to". The end.

                                      Or, "Okay, Comrade." LOL.

                                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                                        @Catseye3 said in Sod Off:

                                        OTOH, it does present a problem. While I wouldn't use any of your niece's suggestions, I'm not sure what I'd say if someone tried to correct me. I don't want trans to insist to me that I use their preference; I equally don't want to be a belligerent asshole about it. That's just committing the same transgression* in reverse.

                                        *See what I did there? 🙂

                                        The one time I have been corrected I responded by insisting that I refer to them as “comrade” and they refer to me by the same. It certainly ended the nonsense there and then.

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                                        #34

                                        @Renauda said in Sod Off:

                                        I responded by insisting that I refer to them as “comrade” and they refer to me by the same. It certainly ended the nonsense there and then.

                                        That's the most "Renauda" thing I've read all week.

                                        Excellent. Just excellent.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                                          @Catseye3 said in Sod Off:

                                          OTOH, it does present a problem. While I wouldn't use any of your niece's suggestions, I'm not sure what I'd say if someone tried to correct me. I don't want trans to insist to me that I use their preference; I equally don't want to be a belligerent asshole about it. That's just committing the same transgression* in reverse.

                                          *See what I did there? 🙂

                                          The one time I have been corrected I responded by insisting that I refer to them as “comrade” and they refer to me by the same. It certainly ended the nonsense there and then.

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                                          taiwan_girl
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #35

                                          @Renauda That is funny! I will try that!!

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