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@Doctor-Phibes said in Sod Off:
No. That's why the customers are taking their money and leaving.
Are they, though?
A few people complaining about something on the internet isn't the same as people actually closing their bank account, which tends to be a bit of a pain in the arse to actually do. We don't even know whether the complainers are Halifax customers.
And you don't know they aren't.
Bottom line - is it good business?
Ask Disney.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Sod Off:
No. That's why the customers are taking their money and leaving.
Are they, though?
A few people complaining about something on the internet isn't the same as people actually closing their bank account, which tends to be a bit of a pain in the arse to actually do. We don't even know whether the complainers are Halifax customers.
And you don't know they aren't.
Bottom line - is it good business?
Ask Disney.
How about Chick-fil-A?
They also made a stand for something they believe in.
Do you think that was a bad idea?
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And they're not whining about it.
I don't care what you think you are or want to pretend to be, no matter how honestly. Past that my sig line says it all.
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Were I a customer of this bank, I wouldn't care what their employees call themselves. (I'd care about how they manage and safeguard my money, that's it.) But if I caught wind of this message from the bank to its customers, "If you disagree with our values, you're welcome to close your account," I'd be gone off down the road, the snotty bastards.
OTOH, this self-ID crap has gotten so bad, maybe the bank is more worried about preventing a walkout (eyeroll) than taking care of its customers, even.
If that's the case, you KNOW things have gotten beyond insane.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Sod Off:
And they're not whining about it.
The people whining about it are the customers who don't like the freedom being given to the employees. The Halifax isn't forcing it on anybody.
In this case, it's the anti-woke bunch who are being all how-dare-you about things.
So you think this self-delusion a good thing?
You can say you are whatever you want. Just don't expect me to respect it or participate.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Sod Off:
The people whining about it are the customers who don't like the freedom being given to the employees
They have freedom and use it to act like bleeding idiots.
Sure, go ahead, here's you freedom, act like a loon, I hope you enjoy it.
And don't bother asking me to have a loon mind my money.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Sod Off:
And they're not whining about it.
The people whining about it are the customers who don't like the freedom being given to the employees. The Halifax isn't forcing it on anybody.
In this case, it's the anti-woke bunch who are being all how-dare-you about things.
So you think this self-delusion a good thing?
You can say you are whatever you want. Just don't expect me to respect it or participate.
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I agree with @Doctor-Phibes Boycotts of a specific store (or something similar) usually do not work very well.
The majority of Peoples values and their willingness to follow them only goes so far, maybe unfortunately.
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I agree with @Doctor-Phibes Boycotts of a specific store (or something similar) usually do not work very well.
The majority of Peoples values and their willingness to follow them only goes so far, maybe unfortunately.
@taiwan_girl said in Sod Off:
I agree with @Doctor-Phibes Boycotts of a specific store (or something similar) usually do not work very well.
The majority of Peoples values and their willingness to follow them only goes so far, maybe unfortunately.
I can't speak for Scotland, but the bank business in the U.S. is so competitive, you don't want to lose customers for stupid reasons.
Ask Disney how some of the woke stuff is working out for them. OTOH, probably the least woke movie of the summer just passed $1B in revenue, and is still making money. If there's anything Hollywood respects, it's a dollar.
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@taiwan_girl said in Sod Off:
I agree with @Doctor-Phibes Boycotts of a specific store (or something similar) usually do not work very well.
The majority of Peoples values and their willingness to follow them only goes so far, maybe unfortunately.
I can't speak for Scotland, but the bank business in the U.S. is so competitive, you don't want to lose customers for stupid reasons.
Ask Disney how some of the woke stuff is working out for them. OTOH, probably the least woke movie of the summer just passed $1B in revenue, and is still making money. If there's anything Hollywood respects, it's a dollar.
@Jolly Maybe banks are different, but others ones don't have much affect.
Dick's Sporting Goods -
ACTION: Stop Selling Guns
RESPONSE: Boycott
RESULT: Stock price/earning doubleChicken Filet -
ACTION: Mean against LGBTQ etc
RESPONSE: Boycott
RESULT: None. Sales increaseNike-
ACTION: Uses slave labor to make shoes
RESPONSE: Boycott
RESULT: Sales increaseUK Bank
ACTION: Gender names on name tags
RESPONSE: BOycott and change banks
RESULT: TBD (but 95% chance no change to # of customers or bank profit)etc
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Basi ally, LOL
When is comes to consumer things,
prices >>> morals
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I hate organized boycotts of things. It's a horrible, horrible precedent for a free nation. If you don't like a business, don't patronize it. But don't try to get people en masse to do likewise to hurt the business. Who you are really hurting is the employees and the many people who may own stock in them.
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@taiwan_girl said in Sod Off:
I agree with @Doctor-Phibes Boycotts of a specific store (or something similar) usually do not work very well.
The majority of Peoples values and their willingness to follow them only goes so far, maybe unfortunately.
I can't speak for Scotland, but the bank business in the U.S. is so competitive, you don't want to lose customers for stupid reasons.
Ask Disney how some of the woke stuff is working out for them. OTOH, probably the least woke movie of the summer just passed $1B in revenue, and is still making money. If there's anything Hollywood respects, it's a dollar.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Sod Off:
And they're not whining about it.
The people whining about it are the customers who don't like the freedom being given to the employees. The Halifax isn't forcing it on anybody.
In this case, it's the anti-woke bunch who are being all how-dare-you about things.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Sod Off:
And they're not whining about it.
The people whining about it are the customers who don't like the freedom being given to the employees. The Halifax isn't forcing it on anybody.
In this case, it's the anti-woke bunch who are being all how-dare-you about things.
So according to you, it's perfectly fine if the bank allows its employees to offend csome of its customers, but it's not ok for those customers to do their business elsewhere...... they should just suck it up and take it....
Somehow I think if the cause of this was that bank employers were passing out Christian reading material nd some of the customers went to other banks because of it your opinion would be the opposite of what it is now...
The bank, and its employees, have the right to call themselves whatever they want. The customers have just as much right to go somewhere else to do their banking.
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The do not have the right to expect you to use pronouns that they pick for themselves. I will never go along with that. it's just stupid. This is a series of pics my niece posted. The whole world should adapt to trans people's desires, and feel bad if they don't do it right.
Sheer idiocy.
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OTOH, it does present a problem. While I wouldn't use any of your niece's suggestions, I'm not sure what I'd say if someone tried to correct me. I don't want trans to insist to me that I use their preference; I equally don't want to be a belligerent asshole about it. That's just committing the same transgression* in reverse.
*See what I did there?