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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #5

    No. That's why the customers are taking their money and leaving.

    If enough of them do so, I suspect the shareholders will be forced to do something. Because I thought the purpose of a business was to make money, not piss off their customers.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      No. That's why the customers are taking their money and leaving.

      If enough of them do so, I suspect the shareholders will be forced to do something. Because I thought the purpose of a business was to make money, not piss off their customers.

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
      #6

      @Jolly said in Sod Off:

      No. That's why the customers are taking their money and leaving.

      Are they, though?

      A few people complaining about something on the internet isn't the same as people actually closing their bank account, which tends to be a bit of a pain in the arse to actually do. We don't even know whether the complainers are Halifax customers.

      I was only joking

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        @Jolly said in Sod Off:

        No. That's why the customers are taking their money and leaving.

        Are they, though?

        A few people complaining about something on the internet isn't the same as people actually closing their bank account, which tends to be a bit of a pain in the arse to actually do. We don't even know whether the complainers are Halifax customers.

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        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by
        #7

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Sod Off:

        @Jolly said in Sod Off:

        No. That's why the customers are taking their money and leaving.

        Are they, though?

        A few people complaining about something on the internet isn't the same as people actually closing their bank account, which tends to be a bit of a pain in the arse to actually do. We don't even know whether the complainers are Halifax customers.

        And you don't know they aren't.

        Bottom line - is it good business?

        Ask Disney.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Sod Off:

          @Jolly said in Sod Off:

          No. That's why the customers are taking their money and leaving.

          Are they, though?

          A few people complaining about something on the internet isn't the same as people actually closing their bank account, which tends to be a bit of a pain in the arse to actually do. We don't even know whether the complainers are Halifax customers.

          And you don't know they aren't.

          Bottom line - is it good business?

          Ask Disney.

          Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on last edited by
          #8

          @Jolly said in Sod Off:

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Sod Off:

          @Jolly said in Sod Off:

          No. That's why the customers are taking their money and leaving.

          Are they, though?

          A few people complaining about something on the internet isn't the same as people actually closing their bank account, which tends to be a bit of a pain in the arse to actually do. We don't even know whether the complainers are Halifax customers.

          And you don't know they aren't.

          Bottom line - is it good business?

          Ask Disney.

          How about Chick-fil-A?

          They also made a stand for something they believe in.

          Do you think that was a bad idea?

          I was only joking

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #9

            They paid for it.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • MikM Away
              MikM Away
              Mik
              wrote on last edited by
              #10

              And they're not whining about it.

              I don't care what you think you are or want to pretend to be, no matter how honestly. Past that my sig line says it all.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • MikM Mik

                And they're not whining about it.

                I don't care what you think you are or want to pretend to be, no matter how honestly. Past that my sig line says it all.

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                Doctor Phibes
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                #11

                @Mik said in Sod Off:

                And they're not whining about it.

                The people whining about it are the customers who don't like the freedom being given to the employees. The Halifax isn't forcing it on anybody.

                In this case, it's the anti-woke bunch who are being all how-dare-you about things.

                I was only joking

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                  Catseye3
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                  #12

                  Were I a customer of this bank, I wouldn't care what their employees call themselves. (I'd care about how they manage and safeguard my money, that's it.) But if I caught wind of this message from the bank to its customers, "If you disagree with our values, you're welcome to close your account," I'd be gone off down the road, the snotty bastards.

                  OTOH, this self-ID crap has gotten so bad, maybe the bank is more worried about preventing a walkout (eyeroll) than taking care of its customers, even.

                  If that's the case, you KNOW things have gotten beyond insane.

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    @Mik said in Sod Off:

                    And they're not whining about it.

                    The people whining about it are the customers who don't like the freedom being given to the employees. The Halifax isn't forcing it on anybody.

                    In this case, it's the anti-woke bunch who are being all how-dare-you about things.

                    MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by Mik
                    #13

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Sod Off:

                    @Mik said in Sod Off:

                    And they're not whining about it.

                    The people whining about it are the customers who don't like the freedom being given to the employees. The Halifax isn't forcing it on anybody.

                    In this case, it's the anti-woke bunch who are being all how-dare-you about things.

                    So you think this self-delusion a good thing?

                    You can say you are whatever you want. Just don't expect me to respect it or participate.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @Mik said in Sod Off:

                      And they're not whining about it.

                      The people whining about it are the customers who don't like the freedom being given to the employees. The Halifax isn't forcing it on anybody.

                      In this case, it's the anti-woke bunch who are being all how-dare-you about things.

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                      Copper
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                      #14

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Sod Off:

                      The people whining about it are the customers who don't like the freedom being given to the employees

                      They have freedom and use it to act like bleeding idiots.

                      Sure, go ahead, here's you freedom, act like a loon, I hope you enjoy it.

                      And don't bother asking me to have a loon mind my money.

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                      • MikM Mik

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Sod Off:

                        @Mik said in Sod Off:

                        And they're not whining about it.

                        The people whining about it are the customers who don't like the freedom being given to the employees. The Halifax isn't forcing it on anybody.

                        In this case, it's the anti-woke bunch who are being all how-dare-you about things.

                        So you think this self-delusion a good thing?

                        You can say you are whatever you want. Just don't expect me to respect it or participate.

                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #15

                        @Mik said in Sod Off:

                        You can say you are whatever you want. Just don't expect me to respect it or participate.

                        I feel much the same way about interest rates.

                        I was only joking

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                        • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                          taiwan_girl
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #16

                          I agree with @Doctor-Phibes Boycotts of a specific store (or something similar) usually do not work very well.

                          The majority of Peoples values and their willingness to follow them only goes so far, maybe unfortunately.

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                          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                            I agree with @Doctor-Phibes Boycotts of a specific store (or something similar) usually do not work very well.

                            The majority of Peoples values and their willingness to follow them only goes so far, maybe unfortunately.

                            JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #17

                            @taiwan_girl said in Sod Off:

                            I agree with @Doctor-Phibes Boycotts of a specific store (or something similar) usually do not work very well.

                            The majority of Peoples values and their willingness to follow them only goes so far, maybe unfortunately.

                            I can't speak for Scotland, but the bank business in the U.S. is so competitive, you don't want to lose customers for stupid reasons.

                            Ask Disney how some of the woke stuff is working out for them. OTOH, probably the least woke movie of the summer just passed $1B in revenue, and is still making money. If there's anything Hollywood respects, it's a dollar.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @taiwan_girl said in Sod Off:

                              I agree with @Doctor-Phibes Boycotts of a specific store (or something similar) usually do not work very well.

                              The majority of Peoples values and their willingness to follow them only goes so far, maybe unfortunately.

                              I can't speak for Scotland, but the bank business in the U.S. is so competitive, you don't want to lose customers for stupid reasons.

                              Ask Disney how some of the woke stuff is working out for them. OTOH, probably the least woke movie of the summer just passed $1B in revenue, and is still making money. If there's anything Hollywood respects, it's a dollar.

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                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #18

                              @Jolly Maybe banks are different, but others ones don't have much affect.

                              Dick's Sporting Goods -
                              ACTION: Stop Selling Guns
                              RESPONSE: Boycott
                              RESULT: Stock price/earning double

                              Chicken Filet -
                              ACTION: Mean against LGBTQ etc
                              RESPONSE: Boycott
                              RESULT: None. Sales increase

                              Nike-
                              ACTION: Uses slave labor to make shoes
                              RESPONSE: Boycott
                              RESULT: Sales increase

                              UK Bank
                              ACTION: Gender names on name tags
                              RESPONSE: BOycott and change banks
                              RESULT: TBD (but 95% chance no change to # of customers or bank profit)

                              etc

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                              • JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #19

                                IOW, people have no morals.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  taiwan_girl
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #20

                                  Basi ally, LOL

                                  When is comes to consumer things,

                                  prices >>> morals

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                                  • MikM Away
                                    MikM Away
                                    Mik
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #21

                                    I hate organized boycotts of things. It's a horrible, horrible precedent for a free nation. If you don't like a business, don't patronize it. But don't try to get people en masse to do likewise to hurt the business. Who you are really hurting is the employees and the many people who may own stock in them.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      @taiwan_girl said in Sod Off:

                                      I agree with @Doctor-Phibes Boycotts of a specific store (or something similar) usually do not work very well.

                                      The majority of Peoples values and their willingness to follow them only goes so far, maybe unfortunately.

                                      I can't speak for Scotland, but the bank business in the U.S. is so competitive, you don't want to lose customers for stupid reasons.

                                      Ask Disney how some of the woke stuff is working out for them. OTOH, probably the least woke movie of the summer just passed $1B in revenue, and is still making money. If there's anything Hollywood respects, it's a dollar.

                                      Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #22

                                      @Jolly said in Sod Off:

                                      I can't speak for Scotland

                                      Whoa, there fellah. Them's fighting words.

                                      Halifax is from Yorkshire. You just referred to a Texan as a Yankee.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        @Mik said in Sod Off:

                                        And they're not whining about it.

                                        The people whining about it are the customers who don't like the freedom being given to the employees. The Halifax isn't forcing it on anybody.

                                        In this case, it's the anti-woke bunch who are being all how-dare-you about things.

                                        LarryL Offline
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                                        Larry
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #23

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Sod Off:

                                        @Mik said in Sod Off:

                                        And they're not whining about it.

                                        The people whining about it are the customers who don't like the freedom being given to the employees. The Halifax isn't forcing it on anybody.

                                        In this case, it's the anti-woke bunch who are being all how-dare-you about things.

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Sod Off:

                                        @Mik said in Sod Off:

                                        And they're not whining about it.

                                        The people whining about it are the customers who don't like the freedom being given to the employees. The Halifax isn't forcing it on anybody.

                                        In this case, it's the anti-woke bunch who are being all how-dare-you about things.

                                        So according to you, it's perfectly fine if the bank allows its employees to offend csome of its customers, but it's not ok for those customers to do their business elsewhere...... they should just suck it up and take it....

                                        Somehow I think if the cause of this was that bank employers were passing out Christian reading material nd some of the customers went to other banks because of it your opinion would be the opposite of what it is now...

                                        The bank, and its employees, have the right to call themselves whatever they want. The customers have just as much right to go somewhere else to do their banking.

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                                        • MikM Away
                                          MikM Away
                                          Mik
                                          wrote on last edited by Mik
                                          #24

                                          The do not have the right to expect you to use pronouns that they pick for themselves. I will never go along with that. it's just stupid. This is a series of pics my niece posted. The whole world should adapt to trans people's desires, and feel bad if they don't do it right.

                                          Sheer idiocy.

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