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    Axtremus
    wrote on 1 Jul 2022, 16:59 last edited by
    #85

    Washington Examiner’s (not Washington Post) editorial on Hutchinson’s testimony as it relates to Trump:

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/editorials/trump-proven-unfit-for-power-again

    The Washington Examiner is usually very pro-Trump, and this op-ed is from the Washington Examiner’s editorial board (not some individual contributor). Go ahead and read it, you know you want to.

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    • 8 89th
      1 Jul 2022, 13:01

      @Jolly said in A bad day for Trump:

      Prithee, how can a sixty-something year-old man reach across three secret service agnts to grab a steering wheel from the back seat?

      Grab at*

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 1 Jul 2022, 17:05 last edited by
      #86

      @89th said in A bad day for Trump:

      @Jolly said in A bad day for Trump:

      Prithee, how can a sixty-something year-old man reach across three secret service agnts to grab a steering wheel from the back seat?

      Grab at*

      It's just locker room talk.

      I was only joking

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      • A Axtremus
        1 Jul 2022, 16:59

        Washington Examiner’s (not Washington Post) editorial on Hutchinson’s testimony as it relates to Trump:

        https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/editorials/trump-proven-unfit-for-power-again

        The Washington Examiner is usually very pro-Trump, and this op-ed is from the Washington Examiner’s editorial board (not some individual contributor). Go ahead and read it, you know you want to.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 1 Jul 2022, 17:19 last edited by
        #87

        @Axtremus said in A bad day for Trump:

        Washington Examiner’s (not Washington Post) editorial on Hutchinson’s testimony as it relates to Trump:

        https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/editorials/trump-proven-unfit-for-power-again

        The Washington Examiner is usually very pro-Trump, and this op-ed is from the Washington Examiner’s editorial board (not some individual contributor). Go ahead and read it, you know you want to.

        Note. The editorial appeared on the 29th and was probably written right after her "testimony".

        My, don't they look stupid....

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • 8 89th
          1 Jul 2022, 13:01

          @Jolly said in A bad day for Trump:

          Prithee, how can a sixty-something year-old man reach across three secret service agnts to grab a steering wheel from the back seat?

          Grab at*

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          Jolly
          wrote on 1 Jul 2022, 17:20 last edited by
          #88

          @89th said in A bad day for Trump:

          @Jolly said in A bad day for Trump:

          Prithee, how can a sixty-something year-old man reach across three secret service agnts to grab a steering wheel from the back seat?

          Grab at*

          In other words, if he waved at the crowd, he grabbed at the steering wheel.

          Yeah, I got it.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 1 Jul 2022, 19:59 last edited by
            #89

            Wait a minute, didn't @89th once tell us he had a friend that was a Whitehouse Aid? Any chance this Cassidy is the one?

            The Brad

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            • L LuFins Dad
              1 Jul 2022, 19:59

              Wait a minute, didn't @89th once tell us he had a friend that was a Whitehouse Aid? Any chance this Cassidy is the one?

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              Jolly
              wrote on 1 Jul 2022, 20:34 last edited by
              #90

              @LuFins-Dad said in A bad day for Trump:

              Wait a minute, didn't @89th once tell us he had a friend that was a Whitehouse Aid? Any chance this Cassidy is the one?

              By jove!, I think you've got it!

              89th, is the fact you were having sex with this woman influence your perception of this event?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • A Axtremus
                30 Jun 2022, 14:06

                @Jolly said in A bad day for Trump:

                She changed to a Democrat lawyer three weeks before her testimony.

                She changed to a lawyer who was nominated by Trump to lead the DOJ’s Civil Division and was formerly US Attorney General Jeff Session’s Chief of Staff. That’s not a “Democrat lawyer.”

                Now that I have shown you a falsehood in what you said, are you going to “Uncle Henry” everything else you say here? Should @George-K “falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus” everything else you say here?

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                Axtremus
                wrote on 2 Jul 2022, 01:10 last edited by
                #91

                @Axtremus said in A bad day for Trump:

                @Jolly said in A bad day for Trump:

                She changed to a Democrat lawyer three weeks before her testimony.

                She changed to a lawyer who was nominated by Trump to lead the DOJ’s Civil Division and was formerly US Attorney General Jeff Session’s Chief of Staff. That’s not a “Democrat lawyer.”

                Now that I have shown you a falsehood in what you said, are you going to “Uncle Henry” everything else you say here? Should @George-K “falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus” everything else you say here?

                It turns out pro-Trump groups have been paying the lawyers for some of the witnesses who testified or subpoenaed by the Jan. 6 committee:

                https://www.yahoo.com/gma/trump-allies-paid-legal-fees-110138603.html

                Hutchinson’s previous lawyer, one who served as an ethics lawyer for the Trump White House, was also paid by a pro-Trump PAC.

                Having tried to discredit Hutchinson by wrongly characterizing her new lawyer as a “Democrat lawyer,” would @Jolly now question the credibility of the other witnesses who testified or gave depositions while being advised by lawyers paid by pro-Trump groups?

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 2 Jul 2022, 01:18 last edited by Jolly 7 Feb 2022, 01:18
                  #92

                  It's not unusual for PAC's to pay for lawyers.

                  And it's a fact she changed her testimony after swapping to a Dem lawyer. And that aint Breitbart peddling that story, it's MSNBC.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 2 Jul 2022, 06:45 last edited by
                    #93

                    As I have say previously, the list of very close President Trump aides/ministers/chiefs of staff, etc who have come out and spoken not complimentary towards him is quite high.

                    If it were just one minor person, okay, I guess you could call it a "disgruntled employee". But, when it is not just one person, it is multiple, and it is not people on the outer circle, but people very close to the President, who have a lot of experience, a lot of long term positive service, it has the ring of truth.

                    Anytime anyone says something against President Trump, President Trump and his followers have a card which they can choose one of the following:

                    A. That person was bad to begin with. President Trumps only hired them as he felt sorry for them
                    B. They never were a Republican.
                    C. They are not a true American
                    D. They are liar and only trying to make money off of President Trump
                    E. They hated President Trump from the beginning
                    F. They spoke against President Trump and refused to kiss his shoe. Therefore, they are automatically wrong.
                    etc.

                    I thought President Trump was incorrect when he said that he could shoot a person on New York city, and his followers would not care. Now, I think he is correct.

                    I am astounded that there is still a large group of people who think that President Trump is the best person to lead the US.

                    Is everything in the Jan 6 commission 100% accurate? Probably not. But I believe that the amount of truth is a lot closer to 100% than it is to 50%.

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                      xenon
                      wrote on 2 Jul 2022, 07:34 last edited by
                      #94

                      It’s be fun to see a primary with other Republicans throwing all this stuff against Trump.

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                      • X xenon
                        2 Jul 2022, 07:34

                        It’s be fun to see a primary with other Republicans throwing all this stuff against Trump.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 2 Jul 2022, 12:28 last edited by
                        #95

                        @xenon said in A bad day for Trump:

                        It’s be fun to see a primary with other Republicans throwing all this stuff against Trump.

                        And losing.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          George K
                          wrote on 10 Jul 2022, 16:15 last edited by
                          #96

                          It's all how you frame the narrative.

                          On Friday, Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.), a member of the House select committee, declared that former Trump White House counsel Pat Cipollone”did not contradict” the testimony of previous witnesses like Cassidy Hutchinson. However, the New York Times is reporting that he was not asked about statements that the Committee knew he would contradict.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 10 Jul 2022, 20:56 last edited by
                            #97

                            Again, theater...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 11 Jul 2022, 12:07 last edited by
                              #98

                              It's all bullshit aimed at getting him to not run in 24.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Larry
                                wrote on 11 Jul 2022, 12:36 last edited by
                                #99

                                He will run, and he will crush what's left of the democrap party.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 11 Jul 2022, 12:44 last edited by
                                  #100

                                  God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • MikM Mik
                                    11 Jul 2022, 12:44

                                    God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.

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                                    Larry
                                    wrote on 11 Jul 2022, 12:48 last edited by
                                    #101

                                    @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

                                    God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.

                                    I agree. I'd like to see him stay active but in the background. But it may just be that his bulldozer style is needed now more than ever.

                                    Aqua LetiferA 1 Reply Last reply 12 Jul 2022, 00:13
                                    • LarryL Larry
                                      11 Jul 2022, 12:48

                                      @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

                                      God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.

                                      I agree. I'd like to see him stay active but in the background. But it may just be that his bulldozer style is needed now more than ever.

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                                      Aqua Letifer
                                      wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 00:13 last edited by
                                      #102

                                      @Larry said in A bad day for Trump:

                                      @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

                                      God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.

                                      I agree. I'd like to see him stay active but in the background. But it may just be that his bulldozer style is needed now more than ever.

                                      How I see it, the far left are crazy. Then there's a pretty big middle, and a right who want someone to go in there and kick some ass.

                                      What I'd love to see is a walk softly, big stick kind of conservative. Someone who can actually push back against all the madness but sounds reasonable and polite. Why we need that is to bring over more of the uncertain center and not alienate the losers. The far left not only needs to lose, but in a way that doesn't also humiliate the moderates who need the help of a conservative administration to clean house on their side.

                                      We get another Trump in there and all it'll do is further crank up the culture wars. Others might love that but I sure as shit wouldn't. Give me a hardline civil conservative who shows us again how it's all supposed to work. Someone to provide a foil to the madness so the rest can see it for what it is. Not some asshole who's going to pour gas on everything.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 00:24 last edited by
                                        #103

                                        The left, when Trump is president, is chaotic and destructive. The best analogy is to children throwing a tantrum, but when they're supposed to be the adults in the room, there is nobody to check them.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer
                                          12 Jul 2022, 00:13

                                          @Larry said in A bad day for Trump:

                                          @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

                                          God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.

                                          I agree. I'd like to see him stay active but in the background. But it may just be that his bulldozer style is needed now more than ever.

                                          How I see it, the far left are crazy. Then there's a pretty big middle, and a right who want someone to go in there and kick some ass.

                                          What I'd love to see is a walk softly, big stick kind of conservative. Someone who can actually push back against all the madness but sounds reasonable and polite. Why we need that is to bring over more of the uncertain center and not alienate the losers. The far left not only needs to lose, but in a way that doesn't also humiliate the moderates who need the help of a conservative administration to clean house on their side.

                                          We get another Trump in there and all it'll do is further crank up the culture wars. Others might love that but I sure as shit wouldn't. Give me a hardline civil conservative who shows us again how it's all supposed to work. Someone to provide a foil to the madness so the rest can see it for what it is. Not some asshole who's going to pour gas on everything.

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 01:20 last edited by
                                          #104

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in A bad day for Trump:

                                          @Larry said in A bad day for Trump:

                                          @Mik said in A bad day for Trump:

                                          God, I hope not. We have a very strong bench coming up of folks who would be better presidents.

                                          I agree. I'd like to see him stay active but in the background. But it may just be that his bulldozer style is needed now more than ever.

                                          How I see it, the far left are crazy. Then there's a pretty big middle, and a right who want someone to go in there and kick some ass.

                                          What I'd love to see is a walk softly, big stick kind of conservative. Someone who can actually push back against all the madness but sounds reasonable and polite. Why we need that is to bring over more of the uncertain center and not alienate the losers. The far left not only needs to lose, but in a way that doesn't also humiliate the moderates who need the help of a conservative administration to clean house on their side.

                                          We get another Trump in there and all it'll do is further crank up the culture wars. Others might love that but I sure as shit wouldn't. Give me a hardline civil conservative who shows us again how it's all supposed to work. Someone to provide a foil to the madness so the rest can see it for what it is. Not some asshole who's going to pour gas on everything.

                                          Amen, brother.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

                                          George KG 1 Reply Last reply 12 Jul 2022, 01:23
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