UCLA professor suspended (guess why)
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UCLA college professor is suspended after refusing request for lenient marking of black students' final assessments due to the trauma they have suffered from George Floyd's death and civil unrest
- Gordon Klein, professor of accounting, has been suspended for three weeks
- Non-black students emailed asking for leniency in marking black peers' work
- Klein replied that he had no idea who was black given the course was online
- He asked how he should grade people of multiple ethnicities
- Klein noted MLK's fight for people to not be evaluated based on skin color
- UCLA's Anderson School of Business described his email as 'disturbing'
- A petition to see Klein removed now has almost 20,000 signatures
- Academics have defended Klein for 'treating students on the basis of equality'
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@89th said in UCLA professor suspended (guess why):
- Academics have defended Klein for 'treating students on the basis of equality'
Oh really? Did they consult the -studies disciplines?
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"The story began when a group of students, who described themselves as 'non-black allies' of their black peers, wrote to Klein asking for him to effectively cancel the final exams for black students."
Reminds me of the Bret Weinstein / Evergreen issue. The most dangerous and stupid students, were the white students that were formally self-proclaimed "allies" of black students. What the white students put themselves through was demeaning and rather sickening. Partially melted snowflakes prostrating themselves in front of their black masters, quite literally prostrated at times. And this was suppose to make things better, or improve the climate at the university, improve society, etc. Remember how that turned out? Yeah, things are just great at Evergreen now /sarc.
I don't quite understand how things have changed. When I was a prof decades ago, there was no way anyone, student or admin, could challenge what I was doing, or how I was grading or frankly, what I decided to teach. Any stomping on my turf, and the Union would step in. So, no one bothered trying to change anything, since they would get nowhere. Only thing that could affect me, would be declining enrollment where the university could claim financial exigency and use that for termination of a position.
Where do students get off telling a professor how he/she is supposed to test, or grade? Apparently they can, I guess. Personally, I would not have considered the subject open for any sort of discussion to begin with.
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A petition of 20,000 signatures . . . nuts!
I wonder if we might validly find hope in the very flagrancy of all this. Surely the very over-the-topness of all that has occurred cannot sustain itself, and a big eyeblink must ensue where people regain their commonsense vision? Where they say, okay, wait a minute, let's take a breath here, dial back the sheer intensity.
How can this mad progression be sustained?
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They need to have two different classes, 'Accounting' and 'Accounting Studies'. People who want to have their marks inflated should attend the second class, which will mostly involve chatting about how when they graduate they're going to totally like undermine capitalism since they're all shit at maths.
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Did you know you are only one click away from helping fire him too?
https://www.change.org/p/ucla-fire-ucla-professor-gordon-klein
Make your voice count!
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We ask for your support in having Professor Klein’s professorship terminated for his extremely insensitive, dismissive, and woefully racist response to his students’ request for empathy and compassion during a time of civil unrest.
Future WTF posters.
Education is extremely important.
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Annnnd, another victim story.
Comments about the killing of George Floyd appear to have resulted in the retirement of the CEO and founder of one of America’s biggest fitness brands and an exodus of the company’s partners.
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Here are his comments that started the whole kerfuffle:
"We're not mourning for George Floyd — I don't think me or any of my staff are,” according to a full recording of the meeting obtained by BuzzFeed News.
“Can you tell me why I should mourn for him? Other than that it’s the white thing to do — other than that, give me another reason.” Glassman reportedly added he didn’t think “that there’s a general mourning for Floyd in any community.”
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We ask for your support in having Professor Klein’s professorship terminated for his extremely insensitive, dismissive, and woefully racist response to his students’ request for empathy and compassion during a time of civil unrest.
Future WTF posters.
@Horace said in UCLA professor suspended (guess why):
We ask for your support in having Professor Klein’s professorship terminated for his extremely insensitive, dismissive, and woefully racist response to his students’ request for empathy and compassion during a time of civil unrest.
Future WTF posters.
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I work with a national level crossfit competitor. I suppose she's obligated to mention how disgusted she is with the CEO's words, if anybody asks her about it. Sad.
@Horace said in UCLA professor suspended (guess why):
I suppose she's obligated to mention how disgusted she is with the CEO's words
Of course she's obligated. It's what you do to NOT become a target.
We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on. -
Did you know you are only one click away from helping fire him too?
https://www.change.org/p/ucla-fire-ucla-professor-gordon-klein
Make your voice count!
@Loki said in UCLA professor suspended (guess why):
Did you know you are only one click away from helping fire him too?
https://www.change.org/p/ucla-fire-ucla-professor-gordon-klein
Make your voice count!
I wonder how UCLA will factor in that change.org is the protagonist here and not 20,000 student votes.
Pretty chilling that you can be cancelled by an on line poll where the poller actually mostly gets a bigger mailing list.
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@Horace said in UCLA professor suspended (guess why):
I suppose she's obligated to mention how disgusted she is with the CEO's words
Of course she's obligated. It's what you do to NOT become a target.
@Improviso Yeah; like Horace said, it's sad -- especially when you consider the better strategy might be for her to stand with the Crossfit guy. It would be a good opportunity to begin applying the brakes to this insane juggernaut.
That's what needs to happen: less sucking up and moar Sparta.
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The University of California Los Angeles (UCLA) suspended Gordon Klein, an accounting professor in the Anderson School of Business where he's been teaching for 39 years, for three weeks beginning on June 25 after he declined a student's request to delay a final exam in light of Floyd's death, the Free Beacon reports.
The Malibu Police Department reportedly has an increased police presence outside Klein's home after multiple threats.
Can you even imagine the reaction of the left if our culture contained systematic elements of violence and social/economic excommunication whenever left-leaning folk didn't toe the line for whatever flavor of the day outrage the fringe of the right came up with? Meanwhile, the right accepts this stuff because this is, in fact, normal life for us.
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And I'm not loving the university's wimpy solution: Three weeks suspension -- a "punishment" that won't overly harm the professor yet hopefully will be taken as an acceptable appeasement.
OTOH, things are so nutty now that if the U didn't do some sort of appeasement, maybe zillions of Floyd mourners would march out, and then where would they be? Worser and worser.
