Roe & Casey overturned.
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@LuFins-Dad Honestly i don’t know.
Yesterdays ruling wasn’t all that broad. It basically extended Heller outside the home. Time place and manner restrictions on weapons are still allowed. You just can put a subjective test on the permitting process (e.g “show me why you need this”).
Only 6 states are effected in practice.
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Shall issue vs. May issue.
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@Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
Shall issue vs. May issue.
Yep. 43 states are shall issue. Vermont is just a free for all.
6 states and DC are May issue.
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@George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
Moar insurrection?
Parkland survivor...
This makes me curious. What are the mortality rates from abortion? I mean per 1000?
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@Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
BTW, nothing about abortion has changed in New York.
Nothing has changed in any state. That’s where the ridiculousness of this comes through.
By the way, this is all in regard to a state law that restricts abortion at 15 weeks. France restricts abortion at 12 weeks…
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@LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
a state law that restricts abortion at 15 weeks
Yeah, I commented on that back when the leak occurred.
Justin Castreaux tweeted about this today, while ignoring the fact that 4 provinces/territories prohibit abortion after 12 weeks.
However, overturning Roe opens the door for individual states to make laws that are far, far more restrictive.
I believe Missouri now has such a law.
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WI state law criminalizes doctors who perform abortions, making it a felony to destroy the life of an unborn child from the time of conception until its birth. It creates an exception for when two doctors agree that the mother’s life is in jeopardy but does not include carveouts for instances of rape or incest.
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@mark said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
WI state law criminalizes doctors who perform abortions, making it a felony to destroy the life of an unborn child from the time of conception until its birth. It creates an exception for when two doctors agree that the mother’s life is in jeopardy but does not include carveouts for instances of rape or incest.
Instances of Rape and Incest are a bit of a strawman as they represent under 1% of abortions.
Florida actually tracks … https://ahca.myflorida.com/MCHQ/Central_Services/Training_Support/docs/TrimesterByReason_2018.pdf
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@LuFins-Dad how does that make it a straw man? Everyone realizes they are small in number. Nobody thinks it’s a big loophole letting thousands of abortions in.
It’s just the thought of forcing some 13 year old to carry a rapists baby to term that most people find abhorrent.
If anything the rarity makes it that much less excusable to not have a carve out.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
Instances of Rape and Incest are a bit of a strawman as they represent under 1% of abortions.
If there was an exception for incest and rape, that would grow from 1% to 99% rapidly.
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I wonder (and even predict) that at some point in the future (maybe 10, maybe 20, years,etc) there will be new Supreme Court judges. Another lawsuit will be brought and this will probably be reversed.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
@Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
BTW, nothing about abortion has changed in New York.
Nothing has changed in any state. That’s where the ridiculousness of this comes through.
I think that’s not true - several states have trigger laws that were designed to change policy immediately upon a potential overturn of Roe.
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@taiwan_girl said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
I wonder (and even predict) that at some point in the future (maybe 10, maybe 20, years,etc) there will be new Supreme Court judges. Another lawsuit will be brought and this will probably be reversed.
FDR.
