Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse

The New Coffee Room

  1. TNCR
  2. General Discussion
  3. Roe & Casey overturned.

Roe & Casey overturned.

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved General Discussion
276 Posts 18 Posters 9.7k Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • L LuFins Dad
    12 Jul 2022, 02:21

    Another thing that doesn’t make sense? How are they setting the gestation at exactly 6 weeks and 3 days? With Lu and Fin we were always told “6-8 weeks”, “18-20”, etc…

    J Offline
    J Offline
    Jolly
    wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 02:46 last edited by
    #222

    @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

    Another thing that doesn’t make sense? How are they setting the gestation at exactly 6 weeks and 3 days? With Lu and Fin we were always told “6-8 weeks”, “18-20”, etc…

    You can't. Not that precise.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

    1 Reply Last reply
    • L LuFins Dad
      12 Jul 2022, 02:21

      Another thing that doesn’t make sense? How are they setting the gestation at exactly 6 weeks and 3 days? With Lu and Fin we were always told “6-8 weeks”, “18-20”, etc…

      8 Offline
      8 Offline
      89th
      wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 11:44 last edited by 89th 7 Dec 2022, 11:44
      #223

      @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

      Another thing that doesn’t make sense? How are they setting the gestation at exactly 6 weeks and 3 days? With Lu and Fin we were always told “6-8 weeks”, “18-20”, etc…

      @Jolly

      In my experience they can be pretty accurate. My wife is 12 weeks preggo now. When we went in for the first appointment around 6 weeks and they were able to estimate it was "6 weeks 3 days" during the ultrasound. Yes, we saw the heartbeat, too. Cool stuff. Anyway, we went back at 10 weeks to verify growth was normal and they verified the gestational age estimate was only a day off (so it was really 6 weeks 2 days at that first appointment) but they kept the same due date of Jan 22 next year.

      1 Reply Last reply
      • J Offline
        J Offline
        Jolly
        wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 12:10 last edited by
        #224

        They approximate. Yes, the US is much better today and certain things appear at certain times. Quant HCG levels can help a bit very early on, too.

        But dead letter perfect to the day? No.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

        1 Reply Last reply
        • J Offline
          J Offline
          Jolly
          wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 12:14 last edited by
          #225

          A note about due dates...Babies are born when they want to be born. And sometimes, it seems like they don't want out. 😄

          Friend's daughter was two weeks past due date, and they sectioned her this week. Baby weighed 9lbs, 11 ounces.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

          1 Reply Last reply
          • J Online
            J Online
            jon-nyc
            wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 12:22 last edited by
            #226

            I was 9lbs 13oz.

            On time. Wearing a suit.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

            1 Reply Last reply
            • J Offline
              J Offline
              Jolly
              wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 12:27 last edited by
              #227

              With tie?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

              J 1 Reply Last reply 12 Jul 2022, 12:33
              • J Jolly
                12 Jul 2022, 12:27

                With tie?

                J Online
                J Online
                jon-nyc
                wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 12:33 last edited by
                #228

                @Jolly

                Hanging low.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

                1 Reply Last reply
                • H Offline
                  H Offline
                  Horace
                  wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 13:35 last edited by
                  #229

                  I was three weeks premature. Probably the only time in my life I was raring to go outside and do stuff.

                  Education is extremely important.

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  • M Away
                    M Away
                    Mik
                    wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 14:55 last edited by
                    #230

                    This is going to muddy the waters.

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-government-tells-hospitals-they-must-provide-abortions-in-cases-of-emergency-regardless-of-state-law/ar-AAZsyKz?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2355cfb42fde4bb79df9edd941df9bd4

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

                    8 1 Reply Last reply 12 Jul 2022, 15:47
                    • M Mik
                      12 Jul 2022, 14:55

                      This is going to muddy the waters.

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-government-tells-hospitals-they-must-provide-abortions-in-cases-of-emergency-regardless-of-state-law/ar-AAZsyKz?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2355cfb42fde4bb79df9edd941df9bd4

                      8 Offline
                      8 Offline
                      89th
                      wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 15:47 last edited by
                      #231

                      @Mik said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                      This is going to muddy the waters.

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-government-tells-hospitals-they-must-provide-abortions-in-cases-of-emergency-regardless-of-state-law/ar-AAZsyKz?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2355cfb42fde4bb79df9edd941df9bd4

                      I think most states, even restrictive ones, have language that allows for abortion if needed to save the life of a mother, but often the language is vague so I would think doctors would be hesitant so as not to face charges.

                      So, this federal "reminder" (?) I think could help clarify that a bit, which is good. Although....I would imagine it's often hard to quantify the emergency/risk to a mother regarding an abortion, so maybe the waters remain muddy.

                      J 1 Reply Last reply 12 Jul 2022, 16:21
                      • 8 89th
                        12 Jul 2022, 15:47

                        @Mik said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                        This is going to muddy the waters.

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-government-tells-hospitals-they-must-provide-abortions-in-cases-of-emergency-regardless-of-state-law/ar-AAZsyKz?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2355cfb42fde4bb79df9edd941df9bd4

                        I think most states, even restrictive ones, have language that allows for abortion if needed to save the life of a mother, but often the language is vague so I would think doctors would be hesitant so as not to face charges.

                        So, this federal "reminder" (?) I think could help clarify that a bit, which is good. Although....I would imagine it's often hard to quantify the emergency/risk to a mother regarding an abortion, so maybe the waters remain muddy.

                        J Online
                        J Online
                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 16:21 last edited by jon-nyc 7 Dec 2022, 16:22
                        #232

                        @89th said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                        Although....I would imagine it's often hard to quantify the emergency/risk to a mother regarding an abortion, so maybe the waters remain muddy.

                        I think we can count on red state Attorneys General not to second guess a doctor’s emergency decision after the fact, just to have a high profile prosecution that gets him in the national news and generates political support among the GOP base.

                        Right?

                        Right?

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

                        J 1 Reply Last reply 12 Jul 2022, 16:23
                        • J jon-nyc
                          12 Jul 2022, 16:21

                          @89th said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                          Although....I would imagine it's often hard to quantify the emergency/risk to a mother regarding an abortion, so maybe the waters remain muddy.

                          I think we can count on red state Attorneys General not to second guess a doctor’s emergency decision after the fact, just to have a high profile prosecution that gets him in the national news and generates political support among the GOP base.

                          Right?

                          Right?

                          J Offline
                          J Offline
                          Jolly
                          wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 16:23 last edited by
                          #233

                          @jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                          @89th said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                          Although....I would imagine it's often hard to quantify the emergency/risk to a mother regarding an abortion, so maybe the waters remain muddy.

                          I think we can count on red state Attorneys General not to second guess a doctor’s emergency decision after the fact, just to have a high profile prosecution that gets him in the national news and generates political support among the GOP base.

                          Right?

                          Right?

                          Unless the doc is an activist.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                          J 1 Reply Last reply 12 Jul 2022, 16:24
                          • J Jolly
                            12 Jul 2022, 16:23

                            @jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                            @89th said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                            Although....I would imagine it's often hard to quantify the emergency/risk to a mother regarding an abortion, so maybe the waters remain muddy.

                            I think we can count on red state Attorneys General not to second guess a doctor’s emergency decision after the fact, just to have a high profile prosecution that gets him in the national news and generates political support among the GOP base.

                            Right?

                            Right?

                            Unless the doc is an activist.

                            J Online
                            J Online
                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 16:24 last edited by jon-nyc 7 Dec 2022, 16:25
                            #234

                            @Jolly

                            Yeah right. You don’t think Paxton would do this regardless? I mean, assuming he has time when he’s not busy investigating Twitter?

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            • J Offline
                              J Offline
                              Jolly
                              wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 16:25 last edited by
                              #235

                              I think most AG's won't go looking for trouble in the medical world, unless shoved into it.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              • G Offline
                                G Offline
                                George K
                                wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 17:21 last edited by
                                #236

                                The status of a "fact."

                                Democracy dies in making shit up.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                                J 1 Reply Last reply 13 Jul 2022, 20:21
                                • H Offline
                                  H Offline
                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 18:24 last edited by
                                  #237

                                  I'm old enough to remember when the entire culture was in need of fainting couches over these sorts of alternative facts.

                                  Humans are really, really stupid.

                                  Education is extremely important.

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  • J Offline
                                    J Offline
                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 22:14 last edited by
                                    #238

                                    Ain't nuthin' at the Crime Lab...

                                    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/megan-fox/2022/07/11/ohio-attorney-general-throws-cold-water-on-10-year-old-rape-victim-story-no-case-that-looks-anything-like-this-n1612121

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    • J Offline
                                      J Offline
                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 13 Jul 2022, 16:39 last edited by
                                      #239

                                      Arrest.

                                      https://www.cantonrep.com/story/news/2022/07/13/columbus-man-charged-rape-10-year-old-led-abortion-in-indiana/10046625002/

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      • AxtremusA Offline
                                        AxtremusA Offline
                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote on 13 Jul 2022, 19:58 last edited by Axtremus
                                        #240

                                        Arrest of and confession by the rapist, and confirmation by the police that the 10 year old indeed traveled to Indiana for abortion.

                                        https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/2022/07/13/columbus-man-charged-rape-10-year-old-led-abortion-in-indiana/10046625002/

                                        "A Columbus man has been charged with impregnating a 10-year-old Ohio girl, whose travel to Indiana to seek an abortion led to international attention ...*

                                        Gershon Fuentes, 27, whose last known address was an apartment on Columbus' Northwest Side, was arrested Tuesday after police say he confessed to raping the child on at least two occasions. He's since been charged with rape, a felony of the first degree in Ohio.

                                        Columbus police were made aware of the girl's pregnancy through a referral by Franklin County Children Services that was made by her mother on June 22, Det. Jeffrey Huhn testified Wednesday morning at Fuentes' arraignment. On June 30, the girl underwent a medical abortion in Indianapolis, Huhn said.
                                        ...

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        • G George K
                                          12 Jul 2022, 17:21

                                          The status of a "fact."

                                          Democracy dies in making shit up.

                                          J Online
                                          J Online
                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 13 Jul 2022, 20:21 last edited by jon-nyc
                                          #241

                                          @George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                          The status of a "fact."

                                          Democracy dies in making shit up.

                                          That chick seems really unreliable. It is definitely suspect that she captures a single sentence from WaPo piece yet refuses to link to the story. The actual story includes the original source, an Indianapolis OBGYN.

                                          Maybe use the account for entertainment purposes only?

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes

                                          231/276

                                          12 Jul 2022, 15:47


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          231 out of 276
                                          • First post
                                            231/276
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • Users
                                          • Groups