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Roe & Casey overturned.

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  • G George K
    12 Jul 2022, 01:22

    What? Someone lied?

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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 02:13 last edited by
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    @George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

    What? Someone lied?

    Huh, who woulda thunk it? @Axtremus ? Would you have thunk it?

    The Brad

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 02:21 last edited by
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      Another thing that doesn’t make sense? How are they setting the gestation at exactly 6 weeks and 3 days? With Lu and Fin we were always told “6-8 weeks”, “18-20”, etc…

      The Brad

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      • L LuFins Dad
        12 Jul 2022, 02:21

        Another thing that doesn’t make sense? How are they setting the gestation at exactly 6 weeks and 3 days? With Lu and Fin we were always told “6-8 weeks”, “18-20”, etc…

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        Jolly
        wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 02:46 last edited by
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        @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

        Another thing that doesn’t make sense? How are they setting the gestation at exactly 6 weeks and 3 days? With Lu and Fin we were always told “6-8 weeks”, “18-20”, etc…

        You can't. Not that precise.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • L LuFins Dad
          12 Jul 2022, 02:21

          Another thing that doesn’t make sense? How are they setting the gestation at exactly 6 weeks and 3 days? With Lu and Fin we were always told “6-8 weeks”, “18-20”, etc…

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          89th
          wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 11:44 last edited by 89th 7 Dec 2022, 11:44
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          @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

          Another thing that doesn’t make sense? How are they setting the gestation at exactly 6 weeks and 3 days? With Lu and Fin we were always told “6-8 weeks”, “18-20”, etc…

          @Jolly

          In my experience they can be pretty accurate. My wife is 12 weeks preggo now. When we went in for the first appointment around 6 weeks and they were able to estimate it was "6 weeks 3 days" during the ultrasound. Yes, we saw the heartbeat, too. Cool stuff. Anyway, we went back at 10 weeks to verify growth was normal and they verified the gestational age estimate was only a day off (so it was really 6 weeks 2 days at that first appointment) but they kept the same due date of Jan 22 next year.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 12:10 last edited by
            #224

            They approximate. Yes, the US is much better today and certain things appear at certain times. Quant HCG levels can help a bit very early on, too.

            But dead letter perfect to the day? No.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Jolly
              wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 12:14 last edited by
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              A note about due dates...Babies are born when they want to be born. And sometimes, it seems like they don't want out. 😄

              Friend's daughter was two weeks past due date, and they sectioned her this week. Baby weighed 9lbs, 11 ounces.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 12:22 last edited by
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                I was 9lbs 13oz.

                On time. Wearing a suit.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 12:27 last edited by
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                  With tie?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • J Jolly
                    12 Jul 2022, 12:27

                    With tie?

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 12:33 last edited by
                    #228

                    @Jolly

                    Hanging low.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 13:35 last edited by
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                      I was three weeks premature. Probably the only time in my life I was raring to go outside and do stuff.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 14:55 last edited by
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                        This is going to muddy the waters.

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-government-tells-hospitals-they-must-provide-abortions-in-cases-of-emergency-regardless-of-state-law/ar-AAZsyKz?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2355cfb42fde4bb79df9edd941df9bd4

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • M Mik
                          12 Jul 2022, 14:55

                          This is going to muddy the waters.

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-government-tells-hospitals-they-must-provide-abortions-in-cases-of-emergency-regardless-of-state-law/ar-AAZsyKz?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2355cfb42fde4bb79df9edd941df9bd4

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                          89th
                          wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 15:47 last edited by
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                          @Mik said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                          This is going to muddy the waters.

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-government-tells-hospitals-they-must-provide-abortions-in-cases-of-emergency-regardless-of-state-law/ar-AAZsyKz?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2355cfb42fde4bb79df9edd941df9bd4

                          I think most states, even restrictive ones, have language that allows for abortion if needed to save the life of a mother, but often the language is vague so I would think doctors would be hesitant so as not to face charges.

                          So, this federal "reminder" (?) I think could help clarify that a bit, which is good. Although....I would imagine it's often hard to quantify the emergency/risk to a mother regarding an abortion, so maybe the waters remain muddy.

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                            12 Jul 2022, 15:47

                            @Mik said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                            This is going to muddy the waters.

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-government-tells-hospitals-they-must-provide-abortions-in-cases-of-emergency-regardless-of-state-law/ar-AAZsyKz?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2355cfb42fde4bb79df9edd941df9bd4

                            I think most states, even restrictive ones, have language that allows for abortion if needed to save the life of a mother, but often the language is vague so I would think doctors would be hesitant so as not to face charges.

                            So, this federal "reminder" (?) I think could help clarify that a bit, which is good. Although....I would imagine it's often hard to quantify the emergency/risk to a mother regarding an abortion, so maybe the waters remain muddy.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 16:21 last edited by jon-nyc 7 Dec 2022, 16:22
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                            @89th said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                            Although....I would imagine it's often hard to quantify the emergency/risk to a mother regarding an abortion, so maybe the waters remain muddy.

                            I think we can count on red state Attorneys General not to second guess a doctor’s emergency decision after the fact, just to have a high profile prosecution that gets him in the national news and generates political support among the GOP base.

                            Right?

                            Right?

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              12 Jul 2022, 16:21

                              @89th said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                              Although....I would imagine it's often hard to quantify the emergency/risk to a mother regarding an abortion, so maybe the waters remain muddy.

                              I think we can count on red state Attorneys General not to second guess a doctor’s emergency decision after the fact, just to have a high profile prosecution that gets him in the national news and generates political support among the GOP base.

                              Right?

                              Right?

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 16:23 last edited by
                              #233

                              @jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                              @89th said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                              Although....I would imagine it's often hard to quantify the emergency/risk to a mother regarding an abortion, so maybe the waters remain muddy.

                              I think we can count on red state Attorneys General not to second guess a doctor’s emergency decision after the fact, just to have a high profile prosecution that gets him in the national news and generates political support among the GOP base.

                              Right?

                              Right?

                              Unless the doc is an activist.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • J Jolly
                                12 Jul 2022, 16:23

                                @jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                @89th said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                Although....I would imagine it's often hard to quantify the emergency/risk to a mother regarding an abortion, so maybe the waters remain muddy.

                                I think we can count on red state Attorneys General not to second guess a doctor’s emergency decision after the fact, just to have a high profile prosecution that gets him in the national news and generates political support among the GOP base.

                                Right?

                                Right?

                                Unless the doc is an activist.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 16:24 last edited by jon-nyc 7 Dec 2022, 16:25
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                                @Jolly

                                Yeah right. You don’t think Paxton would do this regardless? I mean, assuming he has time when he’s not busy investigating Twitter?

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 16:25 last edited by
                                  #235

                                  I think most AG's won't go looking for trouble in the medical world, unless shoved into it.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 17:21 last edited by
                                    #236

                                    The status of a "fact."

                                    Democracy dies in making shit up.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 18:24 last edited by
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                                      I'm old enough to remember when the entire culture was in need of fainting couches over these sorts of alternative facts.

                                      Humans are really, really stupid.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 22:14 last edited by
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                                        Ain't nuthin' at the Crime Lab...

                                        https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/megan-fox/2022/07/11/ohio-attorney-general-throws-cold-water-on-10-year-old-rape-victim-story-no-case-that-looks-anything-like-this-n1612121

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 13 Jul 2022, 16:39 last edited by
                                          #239

                                          Arrest.

                                          https://www.cantonrep.com/story/news/2022/07/13/columbus-man-charged-rape-10-year-old-led-abortion-in-indiana/10046625002/

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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