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Roe & Casey overturned.

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  • CopperC Offline
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    Now that you mention it, could a pregnant person count the unborn as a passenger in the HOV lane if she was on her way to have an abortion?

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    • CopperC Copper

      Now that you mention it, could a pregnant person count the unborn as a passenger in the HOV lane if she was on her way to have an abortion?

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      @Copper said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

      Now that you mention it, could a pregnant person count the unborn as a passenger in the HOV lane if she was on her way to have an abortion?

      Probably, but not on the way home...

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Now that you mention it, could a pregnant person count the unborn as a passenger in the HOV lane if she was on her way to have an abortion?

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        @Copper said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

        Now that you mention it, could a pregnant person count the unborn as a passenger in the HOV lane if she was on her way to have an abortion?

        He or she or they.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          Or ze, bigot.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

            The. Most. Thread. Drift. Ever.

            Remember many years ago we would joke about how so many threads would devolve into evolution or abortion threads?

            Now the abortion threads devolve into HOV gaming.

            We’re getting soft.

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            @jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

            @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

            The. Most. Thread. Drift. Ever.

            Remember many years ago we would joke about how so many threads would devolve into evolution or abortion threads?

            Now the abortion threads devolve into HOV gaming.

            We’re getting soft.

            If you wish to talk about your sexual problems, start a new thread.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • George KG Offline
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              What? Someone lied?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                What? Someone lied?

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                @George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                What? Someone lied?

                Huh, who woulda thunk it? @Axtremus ? Would you have thunk it?

                The Brad

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                  Another thing that doesn’t make sense? How are they setting the gestation at exactly 6 weeks and 3 days? With Lu and Fin we were always told “6-8 weeks”, “18-20”, etc…

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    Another thing that doesn’t make sense? How are they setting the gestation at exactly 6 weeks and 3 days? With Lu and Fin we were always told “6-8 weeks”, “18-20”, etc…

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                    @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                    Another thing that doesn’t make sense? How are they setting the gestation at exactly 6 weeks and 3 days? With Lu and Fin we were always told “6-8 weeks”, “18-20”, etc…

                    You can't. Not that precise.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      Another thing that doesn’t make sense? How are they setting the gestation at exactly 6 weeks and 3 days? With Lu and Fin we were always told “6-8 weeks”, “18-20”, etc…

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                      @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                      Another thing that doesn’t make sense? How are they setting the gestation at exactly 6 weeks and 3 days? With Lu and Fin we were always told “6-8 weeks”, “18-20”, etc…

                      @Jolly

                      In my experience they can be pretty accurate. My wife is 12 weeks preggo now. When we went in for the first appointment around 6 weeks and they were able to estimate it was "6 weeks 3 days" during the ultrasound. Yes, we saw the heartbeat, too. Cool stuff. Anyway, we went back at 10 weeks to verify growth was normal and they verified the gestational age estimate was only a day off (so it was really 6 weeks 2 days at that first appointment) but they kept the same due date of Jan 22 next year.

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                        They approximate. Yes, the US is much better today and certain things appear at certain times. Quant HCG levels can help a bit very early on, too.

                        But dead letter perfect to the day? No.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          A note about due dates...Babies are born when they want to be born. And sometimes, it seems like they don't want out. 😄

                          Friend's daughter was two weeks past due date, and they sectioned her this week. Baby weighed 9lbs, 11 ounces.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            I was 9lbs 13oz.

                            On time. Wearing a suit.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              With tie?

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                With tie?

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                                @Jolly

                                Hanging low.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  I was three weeks premature. Probably the only time in my life I was raring to go outside and do stuff.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    This is going to muddy the waters.

                                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-government-tells-hospitals-they-must-provide-abortions-in-cases-of-emergency-regardless-of-state-law/ar-AAZsyKz?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2355cfb42fde4bb79df9edd941df9bd4

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      This is going to muddy the waters.

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-government-tells-hospitals-they-must-provide-abortions-in-cases-of-emergency-regardless-of-state-law/ar-AAZsyKz?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2355cfb42fde4bb79df9edd941df9bd4

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                                      @Mik said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                      This is going to muddy the waters.

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-government-tells-hospitals-they-must-provide-abortions-in-cases-of-emergency-regardless-of-state-law/ar-AAZsyKz?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2355cfb42fde4bb79df9edd941df9bd4

                                      I think most states, even restrictive ones, have language that allows for abortion if needed to save the life of a mother, but often the language is vague so I would think doctors would be hesitant so as not to face charges.

                                      So, this federal "reminder" (?) I think could help clarify that a bit, which is good. Although....I would imagine it's often hard to quantify the emergency/risk to a mother regarding an abortion, so maybe the waters remain muddy.

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                                      • 89th8 89th

                                        @Mik said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                        This is going to muddy the waters.

                                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-government-tells-hospitals-they-must-provide-abortions-in-cases-of-emergency-regardless-of-state-law/ar-AAZsyKz?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2355cfb42fde4bb79df9edd941df9bd4

                                        I think most states, even restrictive ones, have language that allows for abortion if needed to save the life of a mother, but often the language is vague so I would think doctors would be hesitant so as not to face charges.

                                        So, this federal "reminder" (?) I think could help clarify that a bit, which is good. Although....I would imagine it's often hard to quantify the emergency/risk to a mother regarding an abortion, so maybe the waters remain muddy.

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                                        @89th said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                        Although....I would imagine it's often hard to quantify the emergency/risk to a mother regarding an abortion, so maybe the waters remain muddy.

                                        I think we can count on red state Attorneys General not to second guess a doctor’s emergency decision after the fact, just to have a high profile prosecution that gets him in the national news and generates political support among the GOP base.

                                        Right?

                                        Right?

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          @89th said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                          Although....I would imagine it's often hard to quantify the emergency/risk to a mother regarding an abortion, so maybe the waters remain muddy.

                                          I think we can count on red state Attorneys General not to second guess a doctor’s emergency decision after the fact, just to have a high profile prosecution that gets him in the national news and generates political support among the GOP base.

                                          Right?

                                          Right?

                                          JollyJ Offline
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                                          @jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                          @89th said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                          Although....I would imagine it's often hard to quantify the emergency/risk to a mother regarding an abortion, so maybe the waters remain muddy.

                                          I think we can count on red state Attorneys General not to second guess a doctor’s emergency decision after the fact, just to have a high profile prosecution that gets him in the national news and generates political support among the GOP base.

                                          Right?

                                          Right?

                                          Unless the doc is an activist.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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