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Roe & Casey overturned.

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  • CopperC Offline
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    I regularly used the I-66 HOV lanes, solo, to go from Tysons to Reagan National to catch the Shuttle to LaGuardia. It was early 80's, not a lot of high-tech surveillance.

    I was always late and in a hurry. I never got caught.

    This was a good use of simplicity and ease of enforcement.

    LuFins DadL MikM 2 Replies Last reply
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      #206

      In Indonesia, Jakarta (the capital city) has a minimum # of people in the car coming into the city during the morning rush hour.

      There would always be street kids that you could pick up and pay them maybe USD$0.50 to ride with you into town so that you had enough people in your car.

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      • CopperC Copper

        I regularly used the I-66 HOV lanes, solo, to go from Tysons to Reagan National to catch the Shuttle to LaGuardia. It was early 80's, not a lot of high-tech surveillance.

        I was always late and in a hurry. I never got caught.

        This was a good use of simplicity and ease of enforcement.

        LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
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        #207

        @Copper said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

        I regularly used the I-66 HOV lanes, solo, to go from Tysons to Reagan National to catch the Shuttle to LaGuardia. It was early 80's, not a lot of high-tech surveillance.

        I was always late and in a hurry. I never got caught.

        This was a good use of simplicity and ease of enforcement.

        When 66 became a Dynamic Toll Road a few years back, I became a Lyft Driver. Anytime I needed to go into DC I would turn on the directional filters and pick up a rider going into town. I got the HOV toll exemption and made gas money:..

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          @Copper said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

          I regularly used the I-66 HOV lanes, solo, to go from Tysons to Reagan National to catch the Shuttle to LaGuardia. It was early 80's, not a lot of high-tech surveillance.

          I was always late and in a hurry. I never got caught.

          This was a good use of simplicity and ease of enforcement.

          When 66 became a Dynamic Toll Road a few years back, I became a Lyft Driver. Anytime I needed to go into DC I would turn on the directional filters and pick up a rider going into town. I got the HOV toll exemption and made gas money:..

          89th8 Offline
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          #208

          @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

          When 66 became a Dynamic Toll Road a few years back

          This is when my decision to move to another state became a little bit easier. The fact that toll roads are popping up everywhere instead of our tax money being used for the most basic of infrastructure needs... our roads. It's both incompatible with the philosophy of taxation as well as admittedly a bit of a class warfare where those without much money cannot afford to take certain roads.

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          • 89th8 89th

            @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

            When 66 became a Dynamic Toll Road a few years back

            This is when my decision to move to another state became a little bit easier. The fact that toll roads are popping up everywhere instead of our tax money being used for the most basic of infrastructure needs... our roads. It's both incompatible with the philosophy of taxation as well as admittedly a bit of a class warfare where those without much money cannot afford to take certain roads.

            CopperC Offline
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            Copper
            wrote on last edited by
            #209

            @89th said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

            @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

            When 66 became a Dynamic Toll Road a few years back

            This is when my decision to move to another state became a little bit easier. The fact that toll roads are popping up everywhere instead of our tax money being used for the most basic of infrastructure needs... our roads. It's both incompatible with the philosophy of taxation as well as admittedly a bit of a class warfare where those without much money cannot afford to take certain roads.

            You know the worst part of that? They told us that as soon as the cost of the Dulles Toll Road was collected they would remove the toll booths.

            Then they recovered the cost so fast they couldn't believe it. And they decided there was no way they would stop that huge money stream. If you don't like it, too bad, go take Route 7.

            And of course most of the rest of the country gets free Interstate Highways, why should Fairfax County get nickel and dimed to death?

            I really hate those toll roads.

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            • CopperC Copper

              I regularly used the I-66 HOV lanes, solo, to go from Tysons to Reagan National to catch the Shuttle to LaGuardia. It was early 80's, not a lot of high-tech surveillance.

              I was always late and in a hurry. I never got caught.

              This was a good use of simplicity and ease of enforcement.

              MikM Offline
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              #210

              @Copper said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

              I regularly used the I-66 HOV lanes, solo, to go from Tysons to Reagan National to catch the Shuttle to LaGuardia. It was early 80's, not a lot of high-tech surveillance.

              I was always late and in a hurry. I never got caught.

              This was a good use of simplicity and ease of enforcement.

              I used to use it in LA when I drove a stake truck all over the LA-Orange County area delivering hospital forms. Got caught once, it was $10. Meh.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • CopperC Copper

                @89th said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                When 66 became a Dynamic Toll Road a few years back

                This is when my decision to move to another state became a little bit easier. The fact that toll roads are popping up everywhere instead of our tax money being used for the most basic of infrastructure needs... our roads. It's both incompatible with the philosophy of taxation as well as admittedly a bit of a class warfare where those without much money cannot afford to take certain roads.

                You know the worst part of that? They told us that as soon as the cost of the Dulles Toll Road was collected they would remove the toll booths.

                Then they recovered the cost so fast they couldn't believe it. And they decided there was no way they would stop that huge money stream. If you don't like it, too bad, go take Route 7.

                And of course most of the rest of the country gets free Interstate Highways, why should Fairfax County get nickel and dimed to death?

                I really hate those toll roads.

                MikM Offline
                MikM Offline
                Mik
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                #211

                @Copper said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                @89th said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                When 66 became a Dynamic Toll Road a few years back

                This is when my decision to move to another state became a little bit easier. The fact that toll roads are popping up everywhere instead of our tax money being used for the most basic of infrastructure needs... our roads. It's both incompatible with the philosophy of taxation as well as admittedly a bit of a class warfare where those without much money cannot afford to take certain roads.

                You know the worst part of that? They told us that as soon as the cost of the Dulles Toll Road was collected they would remove the toll booths.

                Then they recovered the cost so fast they couldn't believe it. And they decided there was no way they would stop that huge money stream. If you don't like it, too bad, go take Route 7.

                And of course most of the rest of the country gets free Interstate Highways, why should Fairfax County get nickel and dimed to death?

                I really hate those toll roads.

                It's to get those freeloading EV bastards.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  The. Most. Thread. Drift. Ever.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    The. Most. Thread. Drift. Ever.

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                    #213

                    @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                    The. Most. Thread. Drift. Ever.

                    Remember many years ago we would joke about how so many threads would devolve into evolution or abortion threads?

                    Now the abortion threads devolve into HOV gaming.

                    We’re getting soft.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • CopperC Offline
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                      Copper
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                      #214

                      Now that you mention it, could a pregnant person count the unborn as a passenger in the HOV lane if she was on her way to have an abortion?

                      George KG HoraceH 2 Replies Last reply
                      • CopperC Copper

                        Now that you mention it, could a pregnant person count the unborn as a passenger in the HOV lane if she was on her way to have an abortion?

                        George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        #215

                        @Copper said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                        Now that you mention it, could a pregnant person count the unborn as a passenger in the HOV lane if she was on her way to have an abortion?

                        Probably, but not on the way home...

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • CopperC Copper

                          Now that you mention it, could a pregnant person count the unborn as a passenger in the HOV lane if she was on her way to have an abortion?

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                          Horace
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                          #216

                          @Copper said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                          Now that you mention it, could a pregnant person count the unborn as a passenger in the HOV lane if she was on her way to have an abortion?

                          He or she or they.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • jon-nycJ Offline
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                            jon-nyc
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                            #217

                            Or ze, bigot.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                              The. Most. Thread. Drift. Ever.

                              Remember many years ago we would joke about how so many threads would devolve into evolution or abortion threads?

                              Now the abortion threads devolve into HOV gaming.

                              We’re getting soft.

                              JollyJ Offline
                              JollyJ Offline
                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #218

                              @jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                              @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                              The. Most. Thread. Drift. Ever.

                              Remember many years ago we would joke about how so many threads would devolve into evolution or abortion threads?

                              Now the abortion threads devolve into HOV gaming.

                              We’re getting soft.

                              If you wish to talk about your sexual problems, start a new thread.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                George K
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                                #219

                                What? Someone lied?

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  What? Someone lied?

                                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  @George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                  What? Someone lied?

                                  Huh, who woulda thunk it? @Axtremus ? Would you have thunk it?

                                  The Brad

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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    Another thing that doesn’t make sense? How are they setting the gestation at exactly 6 weeks and 3 days? With Lu and Fin we were always told “6-8 weeks”, “18-20”, etc…

                                    The Brad

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      Another thing that doesn’t make sense? How are they setting the gestation at exactly 6 weeks and 3 days? With Lu and Fin we were always told “6-8 weeks”, “18-20”, etc…

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                                      Jolly
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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                      Another thing that doesn’t make sense? How are they setting the gestation at exactly 6 weeks and 3 days? With Lu and Fin we were always told “6-8 weeks”, “18-20”, etc…

                                      You can't. Not that precise.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                        Another thing that doesn’t make sense? How are they setting the gestation at exactly 6 weeks and 3 days? With Lu and Fin we were always told “6-8 weeks”, “18-20”, etc…

                                        89th8 Offline
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                                        #223

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                        Another thing that doesn’t make sense? How are they setting the gestation at exactly 6 weeks and 3 days? With Lu and Fin we were always told “6-8 weeks”, “18-20”, etc…

                                        @Jolly

                                        In my experience they can be pretty accurate. My wife is 12 weeks preggo now. When we went in for the first appointment around 6 weeks and they were able to estimate it was "6 weeks 3 days" during the ultrasound. Yes, we saw the heartbeat, too. Cool stuff. Anyway, we went back at 10 weeks to verify growth was normal and they verified the gestational age estimate was only a day off (so it was really 6 weeks 2 days at that first appointment) but they kept the same due date of Jan 22 next year.

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                                          #224

                                          They approximate. Yes, the US is much better today and certain things appear at certain times. Quant HCG levels can help a bit very early on, too.

                                          But dead letter perfect to the day? No.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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