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Uvalde cops lied again

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  • MikM Away
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    Mik
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    #21

    To protect and serve.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Mik

      To protect and serve.

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      jon-nyc
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      #22

      @Mik said in Uvalde cops lied again:

      To protect and serve oneself.

      Fixed.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • MikM Away
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        The video really tells the tale.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Horace
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          #24

          When 30 people in a group are all acting the same, the conclusion probably shouldn't be that they are all individually outlier cowards. That seems statistically unlikely. There might be a more meaningful conclusion to draw.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            When 30 people in a group are all acting the same, the conclusion probably shouldn't be that they are all individually outlier cowards. That seems statistically unlikely. There might be a more meaningful conclusion to draw.

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            Aqua Letifer
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            @Horace said in Uvalde cops lied again:

            When 30 people in a group are all acting the same, the conclusion probably shouldn't be that they are all individually outlier cowards. That seems statistically unlikely. There might be a more meaningful conclusion to draw.

            So they aren't cowards?

            Please love yourself.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @Horace said in Uvalde cops lied again:

              When 30 people in a group are all acting the same, the conclusion probably shouldn't be that they are all individually outlier cowards. That seems statistically unlikely. There might be a more meaningful conclusion to draw.

              So they aren't cowards?

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              Horace
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              @Aqua-Letifer said in Uvalde cops lied again:

              @Horace said in Uvalde cops lied again:

              When 30 people in a group are all acting the same, the conclusion probably shouldn't be that they are all individually outlier cowards. That seems statistically unlikely. There might be a more meaningful conclusion to draw.

              So they aren't cowards?

              I think the group reaction emerged from a lack of leadership and preparation rather than outlier cowardice from each of the cops involved.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • MikM Away
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                Yeah, but the border Patrol guys went right in.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  Yeah, but the border Patrol guys went right in.

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                  @Mik said in Uvalde cops lied again:

                  Yeah, but the border Patrol guys went right in.

                  And they weren't subject to whatever group dynamics were going on with the cops.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Uvalde cops lied again:

                    @Horace said in Uvalde cops lied again:

                    When 30 people in a group are all acting the same, the conclusion probably shouldn't be that they are all individually outlier cowards. That seems statistically unlikely. There might be a more meaningful conclusion to draw.

                    So they aren't cowards?

                    I think the group reaction emerged from a lack of leadership and preparation rather than outlier cowardice from each of the cops involved.

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                    Aqua Letifer
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                    @Horace said in Uvalde cops lied again:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Uvalde cops lied again:

                    @Horace said in Uvalde cops lied again:

                    When 30 people in a group are all acting the same, the conclusion probably shouldn't be that they are all individually outlier cowards. That seems statistically unlikely. There might be a more meaningful conclusion to draw.

                    So they aren't cowards?

                    I think the group reaction emerged from a lack of leadership and preparation rather than outlier cowardice from each of the cops involved.

                    Collective cowardice is a thing, too.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      @Horace said in Uvalde cops lied again:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Uvalde cops lied again:

                      @Horace said in Uvalde cops lied again:

                      When 30 people in a group are all acting the same, the conclusion probably shouldn't be that they are all individually outlier cowards. That seems statistically unlikely. There might be a more meaningful conclusion to draw.

                      So they aren't cowards?

                      I think the group reaction emerged from a lack of leadership and preparation rather than outlier cowardice from each of the cops involved.

                      Collective cowardice is a thing, too.

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                      Horace
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                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Uvalde cops lied again:

                      @Horace said in Uvalde cops lied again:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Uvalde cops lied again:

                      @Horace said in Uvalde cops lied again:

                      When 30 people in a group are all acting the same, the conclusion probably shouldn't be that they are all individually outlier cowards. That seems statistically unlikely. There might be a more meaningful conclusion to draw.

                      So they aren't cowards?

                      I think the group reaction emerged from a lack of leadership and preparation rather than outlier cowardice from each of the cops involved.

                      Collective cowardice is a thing, too.

                      That's fine. I just think perfectly normal non-coward human beings are capable of being a cog in a cowardly machine.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • MikM Away
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                        Mik
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                        That’s fair.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          Uvalde police indicted over role in slow response

                          The former Uvalde schools police chief and another former officer have been indicted over their role in the slow police response to the 2022 massacre at a Texas elementary school that left 19 children and two teachers dead, according to multiple reports on Thursday.

                          The Uvalde Leader-News and the San Antonio Express-News reported that Pete Arredondo, the former schools police chief, and Adrian Gonzales, a former officer, were indicted by a grand jury on multiple counts of felony child endangerment and abandonment. The Leader-News reported that Christina Mitchell, the local district attorney, confirmed the indictment.

                          The Austin American-Statesman also reported that two former officers had been indicted but did not identify them.

                          Mitchell did not immediately return messages from the Associated Press seeking comment. Several family members of victims of the shooting did not immediately respond to messages seeking comment.

                          The indictments would make Arredondo, who was the on-site commander during the attack, and Gonzales the first officers to face criminal charges in one of the deadliest school shootings in US history. A scathing report by Texas lawmakers that examined the police response described Gonzales as one of the first officers to enter the building after the shooting began.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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