Uvalde cops lied again
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No evidence of serious acts of misconduct in direct violation of Uvalde Police Department’s policies was found in his behavior in response to the incident.
I suppose “cowardice” is not misconduct and not forbidden by the Uvalde PD’s policies. Srsly, though, can you think of any modern day civilian institution that writes “you must be brave” into their policies? In a motto or on a plaque hanging on the wall, perhaps, but literally in the policies?
@Axtremus said in Uvalde cops lied again:
No evidence of serious acts of misconduct in direct violation of Uvalde Police Department’s policies was found in his behavior in response to the incident.
I suppose “cowardice” is not misconduct and not forbidden by the Uvalde PD’s policies. Srsly, though, can you think of any modern day civilian institution that writes “you must be brave” into their policies? In a motto or on a plaque hanging on the wall, perhaps, but literally in the policies?
I think you’ll find that most of the language in official policy of peace and safety officers is around forbidding them from taking undue personal risks.
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When 30 people in a group are all acting the same, the conclusion probably shouldn't be that they are all individually outlier cowards. That seems statistically unlikely. There might be a more meaningful conclusion to draw.
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When 30 people in a group are all acting the same, the conclusion probably shouldn't be that they are all individually outlier cowards. That seems statistically unlikely. There might be a more meaningful conclusion to draw.
@Horace said in Uvalde cops lied again:
When 30 people in a group are all acting the same, the conclusion probably shouldn't be that they are all individually outlier cowards. That seems statistically unlikely. There might be a more meaningful conclusion to draw.
So they aren't cowards?
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@Horace said in Uvalde cops lied again:
When 30 people in a group are all acting the same, the conclusion probably shouldn't be that they are all individually outlier cowards. That seems statistically unlikely. There might be a more meaningful conclusion to draw.
So they aren't cowards?
@Aqua-Letifer said in Uvalde cops lied again:
@Horace said in Uvalde cops lied again:
When 30 people in a group are all acting the same, the conclusion probably shouldn't be that they are all individually outlier cowards. That seems statistically unlikely. There might be a more meaningful conclusion to draw.
So they aren't cowards?
I think the group reaction emerged from a lack of leadership and preparation rather than outlier cowardice from each of the cops involved.
Education is extremely important.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Uvalde cops lied again:
@Horace said in Uvalde cops lied again:
When 30 people in a group are all acting the same, the conclusion probably shouldn't be that they are all individually outlier cowards. That seems statistically unlikely. There might be a more meaningful conclusion to draw.
So they aren't cowards?
I think the group reaction emerged from a lack of leadership and preparation rather than outlier cowardice from each of the cops involved.
@Horace said in Uvalde cops lied again:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Uvalde cops lied again:
@Horace said in Uvalde cops lied again:
When 30 people in a group are all acting the same, the conclusion probably shouldn't be that they are all individually outlier cowards. That seems statistically unlikely. There might be a more meaningful conclusion to draw.
So they aren't cowards?
I think the group reaction emerged from a lack of leadership and preparation rather than outlier cowardice from each of the cops involved.
Collective cowardice is a thing, too.
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@Horace said in Uvalde cops lied again:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Uvalde cops lied again:
@Horace said in Uvalde cops lied again:
When 30 people in a group are all acting the same, the conclusion probably shouldn't be that they are all individually outlier cowards. That seems statistically unlikely. There might be a more meaningful conclusion to draw.
So they aren't cowards?
I think the group reaction emerged from a lack of leadership and preparation rather than outlier cowardice from each of the cops involved.
Collective cowardice is a thing, too.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Uvalde cops lied again:
@Horace said in Uvalde cops lied again:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Uvalde cops lied again:
@Horace said in Uvalde cops lied again:
When 30 people in a group are all acting the same, the conclusion probably shouldn't be that they are all individually outlier cowards. That seems statistically unlikely. There might be a more meaningful conclusion to draw.
So they aren't cowards?
I think the group reaction emerged from a lack of leadership and preparation rather than outlier cowardice from each of the cops involved.
Collective cowardice is a thing, too.
That's fine. I just think perfectly normal non-coward human beings are capable of being a cog in a cowardly machine.
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Uvalde police indicted over role in slow response
The former Uvalde schools police chief and another former officer have been indicted over their role in the slow police response to the 2022 massacre at a Texas elementary school that left 19 children and two teachers dead, according to multiple reports on Thursday.
The Uvalde Leader-News and the San Antonio Express-News reported that Pete Arredondo, the former schools police chief, and Adrian Gonzales, a former officer, were indicted by a grand jury on multiple counts of felony child endangerment and abandonment. The Leader-News reported that Christina Mitchell, the local district attorney, confirmed the indictment.
The Austin American-Statesman also reported that two former officers had been indicted but did not identify them.
Mitchell did not immediately return messages from the Associated Press seeking comment. Several family members of victims of the shooting did not immediately respond to messages seeking comment.
The indictments would make Arredondo, who was the on-site commander during the attack, and Gonzales the first officers to face criminal charges in one of the deadliest school shootings in US history. A scathing report by Texas lawmakers that examined the police response described Gonzales as one of the first officers to enter the building after the shooting began.
