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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #16

    It's politics. Ya gotta talk to people.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #17

      The Washington Post Editorial Board

      After suffering a stroke in May, Mr. Fetterman was off the campaign trail for three months and has campaigned little since then; he held a rally Sunday. Mr. Oz has pressed for five debates, but Mr. Fetterman dodged and ducked before tentatively agreeing last week to one but not until “sometime in the middle to end of October.” That’s well after Sept. 19, when voters can start casting mail-in ballots, and it’s short of the two debates that had been the standard during recent competitive Senate contests in Pennsylvania.

      Since returning to the campaign trail, Mr. Fetterman has been halting in his performances. He stammers, appears confused and keeps his remarks short. He has held no news conferences. Mr. Fetterman acknowledges his difficulties with auditory processing, which make it hard for him to respond quickly to what he’s hearing. He receives speech therapy — and we wish him a speedy, full recovery — but the lingering, unanswered questions about his health, underscored by his hesitation to debate, are unsettling.

      The Fetterman campaign squandered credibility by concealing from the public for two days after his stroke that he had been hospitalized. It waited weeks longer to reveal a more complete picture of his medical history, including that he had been diagnosed in 2017 with cardiomyopathy. Mr. Fetterman had a pacemaker with a defibrillator implanted after the stroke. The campaign’s response to questions about Mr. Fetterman’s health is to point to a doctor’s note, released more than 14 weeks ago, which said “he should be able to campaign and serve in the U.S. Senate without a problem” if he takes his medications and exercises.

      That’s not good enough. Mr. Fetterman is asking voters for a six-year contract without giving them enough information to make sound judgments about whether he’s up for such a demanding job. We have called for full disclosure of health records from candidates for federal office in both parties, including Donald Trump and Joe Biden, and we believe Mr. Fetterman should release his medical records for independent review.

      And he should debate Mr. Oz before voters start casting their ballots. Mr. Oz, for his part, has not exactly conducted himself with glory. The campaign’s offer to fund “any additional medical personnel [Mr. Fetterman] might need to have on standby” during a debate and its mocking comment about Mr. Fetterman not eating enough vegetables were sophomoric and unseemly, made worse by the fact that Mr. Oz is a cardiothoracic surgeon. Both candidates have something to prove to voters, and there is no better forum than a debate.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        #18

        Whose side do they think they're on?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • MikM Offline
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          Speaking to their criticism of Oz, shit man...he's a surgeon. You need not expect kid gloves or an overabundance of diplomacy.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            Speaking to their criticism of Oz, shit man...he's a surgeon. You need not expect kid gloves or an overabundance of diplomacy.

            George KG Offline
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            George K
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            @Mik said in Fetterman:

            Speaking to their criticism of Oz, shit man...he's a HEART surgeon.

            That's a whole 'nother critter.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              ‘Invest More’ in Public Schools.

              Senate hopeful John Fetterman has cast himself as a champion of Pennsylvania's public schools, telling voters he will "make sure our public schools have the funding they need." But his tax records tell a different story. In fact, as mayor of Braddock, Pa., Fetterman failed to pay tens of thousands of dollars in taxes on time to his local school district, one of the poorest in the state.

              Woodland Hills School District, which serves Braddock, placed nearly three-dozen tax liens against Fetterman totaling $18,692 for unpaid property taxes from 2006 to 2019, according to records reviewed by the Washington Free Beacon. The district sued Fetterman twice over the unpaid bills, resulting in default judgments against Fetterman totaling $3,769. Fetterman has since paid off the liens, but in some cases it took him more than six years to satisfy the debt.

              Well, that's awkward.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                Doctor Phibes
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                Where do they get these people?

                I was only joking

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
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                  Man of the people!

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #24

                    Rolling Stone: "De facto..."

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Mik
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                      Sniffable!

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        George K
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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
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                          Where’s the hoodie? I mean, isn’t that supposed to be his iconic look?

                          The Brad

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                            George K
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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • MikM Mik

                              Speaking to their criticism of Oz, shit man...he's a surgeon. You need not expect kid gloves or an overabundance of diplomacy.

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                              @Mik said in Fetterman:

                              Speaking to their criticism of Oz, shit man...he's a surgeon. You need not expect kid gloves or an overabundance of diplomacy.

                              But he’s more recently a snake oil salesman. There you expect the people skills to be key.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                @Mik said in Fetterman:

                                Speaking to their criticism of Oz, shit man...he's a surgeon. You need not expect kid gloves or an overabundance of diplomacy.

                                But he’s more recently a snake oil salesman. There you expect the people skills to be key.

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                                LuFins Dad
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                                @jon-nyc said in Fetterman:

                                @Mik said in Fetterman:

                                Speaking to their criticism of Oz, shit man...he's a surgeon. You need not expect kid gloves or an overabundance of diplomacy.

                                But he’s more recently a snake oil salesman. There you expect the people skills to be key.

                                He’s the snake oil salesman that is tied with the Democrat candidate in a state where the Democrat should win the Governor race by 20 points…

                                https://www.fox29.com/election/insideradvantage-fox-29-poll-fetterman-oz-neck-and-neck-as-shapiros-lead-narrows

                                The Brad

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @Mik said in Fetterman:

                                  Speaking to their criticism of Oz, shit man...he's a surgeon. You need not expect kid gloves or an overabundance of diplomacy.

                                  But he’s more recently a snake oil salesman. There you expect the people skills to be key.

                                  George KG Offline
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                                  George K
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                                  @jon-nyc said in Fetterman:

                                  But he’s more recently a snake oil salesman.

                                  And that's the problem I have with him.

                                  OTOH, all politicians are that, to some extent, right?

                                  For a while he was into anti-aging BS with an anesthesiologist I had met once. The gas passer was a real asshole. I think I've mentioned this before.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    George K
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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • JollyJ Offline
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                                      Jolly
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                                      As long as you consider them the propaganda wing of the Demonrats, it all makes sense...

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        As long as you consider them the propaganda wing of the Demonrats, it all makes sense...

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                                        George K
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                                        @Jolly said in Fetterman:

                                        the propaganda wing of the Demonrats

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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          AxtremusA Away
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                                          Axtremus
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                                          @George-K Have you read “Butcher of Language” op-ed?

                                          A couple of examples cited therein:

                                          When challenged on reducing the cost of insulin, Walker responded: “I believe in reducing insulin, but at the same time, you got to eat right, because he may not know and I know many people that’s on insulin, and unless you have a eating right, insulin is doing you no good.”

                                          … Walker said: “Well right now, people have coverage for health care. It’s according to what type of coverage do you want because if you have an able-bodied job, you’re going to have health care. But everyone else have health care, it’s the type of health care you’re going to get. And I think that is the problem. And what Senator Warnock wants you to do is to depend on the government. What I want you to do is get off the government health care and get on the health care he’s got.”

                                          The last part I bolded goes beyond language issue, it seems Walker wants people to “get off government health care” and get onto whatever health care Warnock has got, seemingly oblivious to the fact that as a U.S. Senator Warnock is also on “government health care.”

                                          I have interacted with many people with poor command of the English language and many of them did their jobs just fine, though their jobs are mostly technical, requiring specialized skills/knowledge, or labor intensive, not ones where command of the English language is all that important (e.g., lawyer or “Director of Communications” type corporate jobs in North America).

                                          As for the Fetterman headline about needing technology to do his job, I haven’t been able to find any NYT article with that exact headline. You got a link?

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