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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    There's no way to determine his cognitive abilities from this clip, but his ability to communicate them is sad.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • MikM Offline
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      For the life of me, I cannot see the attraction to Fetterman. His accomplishments as mayor were pretty meager, although in fairness he had an uphill battle to begin with. Then there's the shotgun incident, his support of Bernie Sanders. His behavior as Lt. Gov has included defying laws signed by Governor Wolf. Not crazy about Oz either, but I just don't see Fetterman.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • George KG George K

        There's no way to determine his cognitive abilities from this clip, but his ability to communicate them is sad.

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        Renauda
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        @George-K said in Fetterman:

        There's no way to determine his cognitive abilities from this clip, but his ability to communicate them is sad.

        From what my SLP spouse tells me, post stroke speech impairments do not necessarily or often denote cognitive deficiencies. They way she describes it is that strokes result in neural disconnects in the brain between the speech centre and other areas that facilitate fluency. Through speech therapy new pathways can often be developed and speech fluency improves. Fetterman therefore is probably functioning well cognitively but cannot express himself fluently.

        Elbows up!

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        • MikM Offline
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          Yeah, the speech thing does not bother me, although I suspect his communication ability and tenacity is likely what got him so far.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            It's politics. Ya gotta talk to people.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • George KG Offline
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              The Washington Post Editorial Board

              After suffering a stroke in May, Mr. Fetterman was off the campaign trail for three months and has campaigned little since then; he held a rally Sunday. Mr. Oz has pressed for five debates, but Mr. Fetterman dodged and ducked before tentatively agreeing last week to one but not until “sometime in the middle to end of October.” That’s well after Sept. 19, when voters can start casting mail-in ballots, and it’s short of the two debates that had been the standard during recent competitive Senate contests in Pennsylvania.

              Since returning to the campaign trail, Mr. Fetterman has been halting in his performances. He stammers, appears confused and keeps his remarks short. He has held no news conferences. Mr. Fetterman acknowledges his difficulties with auditory processing, which make it hard for him to respond quickly to what he’s hearing. He receives speech therapy — and we wish him a speedy, full recovery — but the lingering, unanswered questions about his health, underscored by his hesitation to debate, are unsettling.

              The Fetterman campaign squandered credibility by concealing from the public for two days after his stroke that he had been hospitalized. It waited weeks longer to reveal a more complete picture of his medical history, including that he had been diagnosed in 2017 with cardiomyopathy. Mr. Fetterman had a pacemaker with a defibrillator implanted after the stroke. The campaign’s response to questions about Mr. Fetterman’s health is to point to a doctor’s note, released more than 14 weeks ago, which said “he should be able to campaign and serve in the U.S. Senate without a problem” if he takes his medications and exercises.

              That’s not good enough. Mr. Fetterman is asking voters for a six-year contract without giving them enough information to make sound judgments about whether he’s up for such a demanding job. We have called for full disclosure of health records from candidates for federal office in both parties, including Donald Trump and Joe Biden, and we believe Mr. Fetterman should release his medical records for independent review.

              And he should debate Mr. Oz before voters start casting their ballots. Mr. Oz, for his part, has not exactly conducted himself with glory. The campaign’s offer to fund “any additional medical personnel [Mr. Fetterman] might need to have on standby” during a debate and its mocking comment about Mr. Fetterman not eating enough vegetables were sophomoric and unseemly, made worse by the fact that Mr. Oz is a cardiothoracic surgeon. Both candidates have something to prove to voters, and there is no better forum than a debate.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Whose side do they think they're on?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • MikM Offline
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                  Speaking to their criticism of Oz, shit man...he's a surgeon. You need not expect kid gloves or an overabundance of diplomacy.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    Speaking to their criticism of Oz, shit man...he's a surgeon. You need not expect kid gloves or an overabundance of diplomacy.

                    George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    @Mik said in Fetterman:

                    Speaking to their criticism of Oz, shit man...he's a HEART surgeon.

                    That's a whole 'nother critter.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      George K
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                      ‘Invest More’ in Public Schools.

                      Senate hopeful John Fetterman has cast himself as a champion of Pennsylvania's public schools, telling voters he will "make sure our public schools have the funding they need." But his tax records tell a different story. In fact, as mayor of Braddock, Pa., Fetterman failed to pay tens of thousands of dollars in taxes on time to his local school district, one of the poorest in the state.

                      Woodland Hills School District, which serves Braddock, placed nearly three-dozen tax liens against Fetterman totaling $18,692 for unpaid property taxes from 2006 to 2019, according to records reviewed by the Washington Free Beacon. The district sued Fetterman twice over the unpaid bills, resulting in default judgments against Fetterman totaling $3,769. Fetterman has since paid off the liens, but in some cases it took him more than six years to satisfy the debt.

                      Well, that's awkward.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        Where do they get these people?

                        I was only joking

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          Man of the people!

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            George K
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                            Rolling Stone: "De facto..."

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              Sniffable!

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                George K
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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  Where’s the hoodie? I mean, isn’t that supposed to be his iconic look?

                                  The Brad

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                                    George K
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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      Speaking to their criticism of Oz, shit man...he's a surgeon. You need not expect kid gloves or an overabundance of diplomacy.

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                                      @Mik said in Fetterman:

                                      Speaking to their criticism of Oz, shit man...he's a surgeon. You need not expect kid gloves or an overabundance of diplomacy.

                                      But he’s more recently a snake oil salesman. There you expect the people skills to be key.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        @Mik said in Fetterman:

                                        Speaking to their criticism of Oz, shit man...he's a surgeon. You need not expect kid gloves or an overabundance of diplomacy.

                                        But he’s more recently a snake oil salesman. There you expect the people skills to be key.

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                                        LuFins Dad
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                                        @jon-nyc said in Fetterman:

                                        @Mik said in Fetterman:

                                        Speaking to their criticism of Oz, shit man...he's a surgeon. You need not expect kid gloves or an overabundance of diplomacy.

                                        But he’s more recently a snake oil salesman. There you expect the people skills to be key.

                                        He’s the snake oil salesman that is tied with the Democrat candidate in a state where the Democrat should win the Governor race by 20 points…

                                        https://www.fox29.com/election/insideradvantage-fox-29-poll-fetterman-oz-neck-and-neck-as-shapiros-lead-narrows

                                        The Brad

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          @Mik said in Fetterman:

                                          Speaking to their criticism of Oz, shit man...he's a surgeon. You need not expect kid gloves or an overabundance of diplomacy.

                                          But he’s more recently a snake oil salesman. There you expect the people skills to be key.

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                                          George K
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                                          @jon-nyc said in Fetterman:

                                          But he’s more recently a snake oil salesman.

                                          And that's the problem I have with him.

                                          OTOH, all politicians are that, to some extent, right?

                                          For a while he was into anti-aging BS with an anesthesiologist I had met once. The gas passer was a real asshole. I think I've mentioned this before.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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