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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on 23 Sept 2022, 01:38 last edited by
    #22

    Where do they get these people?

    I was only joking

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      Jolly
      wrote on 23 Sept 2022, 12:28 last edited by
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      Man of the people!

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        George K
        wrote on 20 Oct 2022, 23:03 last edited by
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        Rolling Stone: "De facto..."

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Mik
          wrote on 20 Oct 2022, 23:12 last edited by
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          Sniffable!

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            George K
            wrote on 21 Oct 2022, 12:56 last edited by
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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 21 Oct 2022, 12:58 last edited by
              #27

              Where’s the hoodie? I mean, isn’t that supposed to be his iconic look?

              The Brad

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                George K
                wrote on 21 Oct 2022, 13:01 last edited by
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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • M Mik
                  12 Sept 2022, 22:50

                  Speaking to their criticism of Oz, shit man...he's a surgeon. You need not expect kid gloves or an overabundance of diplomacy.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 21 Oct 2022, 13:03 last edited by
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                  @Mik said in Fetterman:

                  Speaking to their criticism of Oz, shit man...he's a surgeon. You need not expect kid gloves or an overabundance of diplomacy.

                  But he’s more recently a snake oil salesman. There you expect the people skills to be key.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                  • J jon-nyc
                    21 Oct 2022, 13:03

                    @Mik said in Fetterman:

                    Speaking to their criticism of Oz, shit man...he's a surgeon. You need not expect kid gloves or an overabundance of diplomacy.

                    But he’s more recently a snake oil salesman. There you expect the people skills to be key.

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 21 Oct 2022, 13:16 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in Fetterman:

                    @Mik said in Fetterman:

                    Speaking to their criticism of Oz, shit man...he's a surgeon. You need not expect kid gloves or an overabundance of diplomacy.

                    But he’s more recently a snake oil salesman. There you expect the people skills to be key.

                    He’s the snake oil salesman that is tied with the Democrat candidate in a state where the Democrat should win the Governor race by 20 points…

                    https://www.fox29.com/election/insideradvantage-fox-29-poll-fetterman-oz-neck-and-neck-as-shapiros-lead-narrows

                    The Brad

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      21 Oct 2022, 13:03

                      @Mik said in Fetterman:

                      Speaking to their criticism of Oz, shit man...he's a surgeon. You need not expect kid gloves or an overabundance of diplomacy.

                      But he’s more recently a snake oil salesman. There you expect the people skills to be key.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 21 Oct 2022, 13:18 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc said in Fetterman:

                      But he’s more recently a snake oil salesman.

                      And that's the problem I have with him.

                      OTOH, all politicians are that, to some extent, right?

                      For a while he was into anti-aging BS with an anesthesiologist I had met once. The gas passer was a real asshole. I think I've mentioned this before.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 22 Oct 2022, 12:00 last edited by
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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 22 Oct 2022, 12:34 last edited by
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                          As long as you consider them the propaganda wing of the Demonrats, it all makes sense...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            22 Oct 2022, 12:34

                            As long as you consider them the propaganda wing of the Demonrats, it all makes sense...

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                            George K
                            wrote on 22 Oct 2022, 12:37 last edited by
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                            @Jolly said in Fetterman:

                            the propaganda wing of the Demonrats

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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • G George K
                              22 Oct 2022, 12:00

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on 22 Oct 2022, 12:40 last edited by
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                              @George-K Have you read “Butcher of Language” op-ed?

                              A couple of examples cited therein:

                              When challenged on reducing the cost of insulin, Walker responded: “I believe in reducing insulin, but at the same time, you got to eat right, because he may not know and I know many people that’s on insulin, and unless you have a eating right, insulin is doing you no good.”

                              … Walker said: “Well right now, people have coverage for health care. It’s according to what type of coverage do you want because if you have an able-bodied job, you’re going to have health care. But everyone else have health care, it’s the type of health care you’re going to get. And I think that is the problem. And what Senator Warnock wants you to do is to depend on the government. What I want you to do is get off the government health care and get on the health care he’s got.”

                              The last part I bolded goes beyond language issue, it seems Walker wants people to “get off government health care” and get onto whatever health care Warnock has got, seemingly oblivious to the fact that as a U.S. Senator Warnock is also on “government health care.”

                              I have interacted with many people with poor command of the English language and many of them did their jobs just fine, though their jobs are mostly technical, requiring specialized skills/knowledge, or labor intensive, not ones where command of the English language is all that important (e.g., lawyer or “Director of Communications” type corporate jobs in North America).

                              As for the Fetterman headline about needing technology to do his job, I haven’t been able to find any NYT article with that exact headline. You got a link?

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                              • AxtremusA Axtremus
                                22 Oct 2022, 12:40

                                @George-K Have you read “Butcher of Language” op-ed?

                                A couple of examples cited therein:

                                When challenged on reducing the cost of insulin, Walker responded: “I believe in reducing insulin, but at the same time, you got to eat right, because he may not know and I know many people that’s on insulin, and unless you have a eating right, insulin is doing you no good.”

                                … Walker said: “Well right now, people have coverage for health care. It’s according to what type of coverage do you want because if you have an able-bodied job, you’re going to have health care. But everyone else have health care, it’s the type of health care you’re going to get. And I think that is the problem. And what Senator Warnock wants you to do is to depend on the government. What I want you to do is get off the government health care and get on the health care he’s got.”

                                The last part I bolded goes beyond language issue, it seems Walker wants people to “get off government health care” and get onto whatever health care Warnock has got, seemingly oblivious to the fact that as a U.S. Senator Warnock is also on “government health care.”

                                I have interacted with many people with poor command of the English language and many of them did their jobs just fine, though their jobs are mostly technical, requiring specialized skills/knowledge, or labor intensive, not ones where command of the English language is all that important (e.g., lawyer or “Director of Communications” type corporate jobs in North America).

                                As for the Fetterman headline about needing technology to do his job, I haven’t been able to find any NYT article with that exact headline. You got a link?

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                                George K
                                wrote on 22 Oct 2022, 12:50 last edited by
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                                @Axtremus said in Fetterman:

                                As for the Fetterman headline about needing technology to do his job, I haven’t been able to find any NYT article with that exact headline. You got a link?

                                Multiple cites of that headline, but they all re-direct to a "caused a furor" op ed in the NYT.

                                https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/y3f8sl/john_fetterman_is_a_disabled_american_who_needs/

                                https://www.reddit.com/r/ArizonaLeft/comments/y45i43/john_fetterman_is_a_disabled_american_who_needs/

                                The internet wayback machine has this archived:

                                https://web.archive.org/web/20221013190244/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/13/opinion/fetterman-disability.html

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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • G George K
                                  22 Oct 2022, 12:50

                                  @Axtremus said in Fetterman:

                                  As for the Fetterman headline about needing technology to do his job, I haven’t been able to find any NYT article with that exact headline. You got a link?

                                  Multiple cites of that headline, but they all re-direct to a "caused a furor" op ed in the NYT.

                                  https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/y3f8sl/john_fetterman_is_a_disabled_american_who_needs/

                                  https://www.reddit.com/r/ArizonaLeft/comments/y45i43/john_fetterman_is_a_disabled_american_who_needs/

                                  The internet wayback machine has this archived:

                                  https://web.archive.org/web/20221013190244/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/13/opinion/fetterman-disability.html

                                  Screen Shot 2022-10-22 at 7.50.08 AM.png

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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on 22 Oct 2022, 13:50 last edited by
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                                  @George-K Thanks, having read the op-ed as archived by the Internet Wayback Machine, I want to go a step further and post this question:

                                  Would we ever support a deaf/mute person to be a U.S. Senator (or any national elected office)?

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                                  • AxtremusA Axtremus
                                    22 Oct 2022, 13:50

                                    @George-K Thanks, having read the op-ed as archived by the Internet Wayback Machine, I want to go a step further and post this question:

                                    Would we ever support a deaf/mute person to be a U.S. Senator (or any national elected office)?

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 22 Oct 2022, 14:04 last edited by
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                                    @Axtremus said in Fetterman:

                                    @George-K Thanks, having read the op-ed as archived by the Internet Wayback Machine, I want to go a step further and post this question:

                                    Would we ever support a deaf/mute person to be a U.S. Senator (or any national elected office)?

                                    Sure would. Would support Fetterman if he wasn’t an idiot without the stroke. Who knows, it may have helped his cognitive function. I don’t think it could have damaged them…

                                    But it would be good to have some live demonstrations that it’s an auditory disconnect and not a cognitive one. Unfortunately, to this point we have yet to be given an example where the interviews weren’t pre-scripted giving Fetterman advance access to the questions. I would like to see a debate where the questions were written out but not given in to the team in advance.

                                    The Brad

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 22 Oct 2022, 14:17 last edited by
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                                      It seems to be becoming the standard for the Democrat party.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • L LuFins Dad
                                        22 Oct 2022, 14:04

                                        @Axtremus said in Fetterman:

                                        @George-K Thanks, having read the op-ed as archived by the Internet Wayback Machine, I want to go a step further and post this question:

                                        Would we ever support a deaf/mute person to be a U.S. Senator (or any national elected office)?

                                        Sure would. Would support Fetterman if he wasn’t an idiot without the stroke. Who knows, it may have helped his cognitive function. I don’t think it could have damaged them…

                                        But it would be good to have some live demonstrations that it’s an auditory disconnect and not a cognitive one. Unfortunately, to this point we have yet to be given an example where the interviews weren’t pre-scripted giving Fetterman advance access to the questions. I would like to see a debate where the questions were written out but not given in to the team in advance.

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                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote on 22 Oct 2022, 14:39 last edited by
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                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Fetterman:

                                        Would support Fetterman if he wasn’t an idiot without the stroke.

                                        Just curious, what evidence would you cite to support your claim that Fetterman was an idiot without the stroke?

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                                        • AxtremusA Axtremus
                                          22 Oct 2022, 13:50

                                          @George-K Thanks, having read the op-ed as archived by the Internet Wayback Machine, I want to go a step further and post this question:

                                          Would we ever support a deaf/mute person to be a U.S. Senator (or any national elected office)?

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 22 Oct 2022, 14:52 last edited by
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                                          @Axtremus said in Fetterman:

                                          @George-K Thanks, having read the op-ed as archived by the Internet Wayback Machine, I want to go a step further and post this question:

                                          Would we ever support a deaf/mute person to be a U.S. Senator (or any national elected office)?

                                          What does being a deaf mute have to do with cognitive function?

                                          There are three in my wife's extended family. Provided you can sign, they can carry on a pretty rapid conversation, complete with the occasional curse word. They all read and write pretty well...One has a college degree.

                                          So what's yer point, bud?

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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