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  • KincaidK Kincaid

    I thought this was a good read.

    https://www.madisonbrigade.com/library_bor.htm

    These days, I am more convinced than ever that I want to keep the guns I have. Surprised how many people think we should rely on police and politicians to protect us and have our best interests at heart.

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    @Kincaid said in 2nd Amendment:

    people think we should rely on police and politicians to protect us

    In the "Texas Shooting" thread, I posted a video by an attorney who explains that it is NOT the police's job to protect you.

    More here:

    https://www.barneslawllp.com/blog/police-not-required-protect

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • KincaidK Kincaid

      I thought this was a good read.

      https://www.madisonbrigade.com/library_bor.htm

      These days, I am more convinced than ever that I want to keep the guns I have. Surprised how many people think we should rely on police and politicians to protect us and have our best interests at heart.

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      @Kincaid said in 2nd Amendment:

      Surprised how many people think we should rely on police and politicians to protect us and have our best interests at heart.

      This very morning I had the thought upon awakening that it can no longer be advisable (if it ever was) to rely upon politicians and selected media to inform and guide us. Everyone has his own axe to grind, and we, poor trusting lambs that we are, are too ready to fall in with our favored ones.

      If we want to be truly informed and not just self deluding, we must go somewhat abroad and do our own educating and reflecting, as well as we are able.

      This is why I so often find myself at a loss as to what to believe and what I think I know. Even truer since the Internet, with its thousand permutations of, well, everything. It's just too exhausting. We may be in a time when ignorance really is bliss. It's certainly less tiring than learning all about one slice of the whole pie and deluding ourselves that we have an understanding of, you know, reality.

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        If one really wants to see media influence in public perception, look no further than Obama, Trump and Biden presidencies. Whether you support or abhor their actions in office, look at how the media, particularly MSM, has covered them.

        The coverage has been neither objective or fair. The public is being fed biased information and the media is effecting policy by perception.

        We are not Russia, but note what a one-note media can accomplish with the public.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • KincaidK Kincaid

          I thought this was a good read.

          https://www.madisonbrigade.com/library_bor.htm

          These days, I am more convinced than ever that I want to keep the guns I have. Surprised how many people think we should rely on police and politicians to protect us and have our best interests at heart.

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          @Kincaid said in 2nd Amendment:

          These days, I am more convinced than ever that I want to keep the guns I have.

          There was a brief period during the summer of 2020 when you started to see the protest mob head down residential streets and it was at that time I thought, "if this ever gets close to my house/family, I will make sure my firearm is ready to go". Right now (and always) it's locked away and would take quite a few minutes to get to.

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            Then, it's next to useless.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • MikM Away
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              By that time, it will be too late, 89th.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Nah, @89th is just doing his best to balance safety, access, and observance of relevant state law. The guy still has kids in his household.

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  Nah, @89th is just doing his best to balance safety, access, and observance of relevant state law. The guy still has kids in his household.

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                  @Axtremus said in 2nd Amendment:

                  Nah, @89th is just doing his best to balance safety, access, and observance of relevant state law. The guy still has kids in his household.

                  I had kids in my house. I still have grandkids. My guns are safe. And I can have one in my hand and ready to rock before you can count to 10.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @Axtremus said in 2nd Amendment:

                    Nah, @89th is just doing his best to balance safety, access, and observance of relevant state law. The guy still has kids in his household.

                    I had kids in my house. I still have grandkids. My guns are safe. And I can have one in my hand and ready to rock before you can count to 10.

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                    @Jolly Have you thought about moving to a politer neighborhood?

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      I'm all for the 2nd Amendment, but I am also concerned about the current gun fetish movement. Things are being taken to extremes on both sides.

                      The Brad

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @Jolly Have you thought about moving to a politer neighborhood?

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                        @jon-nyc said in 2nd Amendment:

                        @Jolly Have you thought about moving to a politer neighborhood?

                        I have a very quiet neighborhood. Except for petty theft by the dopers.

                        I think we've had two murders in forty years.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          I'm all for the 2nd Amendment, but I am also concerned about the current gun fetish movement. Things are being taken to extremes on both sides.

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                          @LuFins-Dad said in 2nd Amendment:

                          I'm all for the 2nd Amendment, but I am also concerned about the current gun fetish movement. Things are being taken to extremes on both sides.

                          I don't think you'd see quite as much of the tacticool stuff, if people were pushing anti-gun laws so much. Some of this stuff is just a mild form of rebellion.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • MikM Mik

                            By that time, it will be too late, 89th.

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                            @Mik said in 2nd Amendment:

                            By that time, it will be too late, 89th.

                            I do not have it for "middle of the night" defense, on purpose. I have it more for "if societal shit hits the fan" defense. Would I regret that if an intruder invades my home? Of course, but we moved to a very safe neighborhood on purpose, too.

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                              People get robbed, raped and killed in nice neighborhoods everyday...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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